Confirmed with Link: Chris Kunitz to 1 yr deal ($1m) , Brandon Manning to 2 yr deal ($2.25m aav)

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So we’re tanking, at least Q and Bowman will get fired for it.

Another way to look at it is we didn’t strap ourselves to anymore brutal long term contracts.
 

ClydeLee

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You guys are waaaaaaay too optimistic. Trade chips?

This is Joel Quennville we are talking about. This guy is playing Kunitz with Kane every night.

I said this in the other thread but I had a feeling we weren’t going to get anyone good. No longer a destination.
How does that not make him a valuable trade chip? That's exactly what that does.

Also why did you want to overpay?
 

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I don't think Kunitz is a bad signing at all in the bottom 6 (especially 4th line). Problem is, Q is going to play him in the top 6.. and alot I'd bet. If Stan wanted an aging vet for Q to overplay, I'd rather him talk Sharp back out of retirement.

Not even gonna go into the other 2 signings.
 

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I'm sorry, but I gotta agree with BWC here. I hate Q's geriatric security blankets. QUIT GIVING IN STAN!!!!!! I feel like Bowman isn't the GM anymore, he's just Q's puppet. Q has won the power struggle, because I think Murphy was the last straw for Stan. He may have figured out that he and Q are joined at the hip and that when Q gets shitcanned, he's not far behind so might as well give the guy what he wants.
 

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Apologies to hear you guys are now stuck with Brandon Manning.

A quick breakdown: Most adequate 6/7 defensemen are usually "death by 1,000 cuts" sort of players. The Flyers seemingly have no problem with them in MacDonald and Hagg. Most of the time, these players won't do anything glaringly bad, but their small mistakes just add up over time.

This does not describe Manning. Every once in a while, whether it's a period or even a game, Manning will flash offensively and physically and you'll wonder why he can't stick as a 6 on a decent time. Then he'll do something just MIND-NUMBINGLY IDIOTIC and go back to being who he is. He will attempt to make plays that he just can't make on a regular basis, and it leads to noticeable mistakes.

Positives: He is physical and is always willing to stand up for his teammates. Not a good fighter, but always willing. He is legitimately a good character guy. Notice none of these positives are about his actual hockey skill.

Manning was an undrafted free agent who moved his way up the ranks from bottom pairing AHL defenseman, to AHL all-star, to 7th NHL defenseman. This should have been a feel good story for someone who started from the bottom and made his way to the NHL as a depth player. Unfortunately, he was overused by his NHL coaches, and public opinion on him changed.
 
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So we’re tanking, at least Q and Bowman will get fired for it.

Another way to look at it is we didn’t strap ourselves to anymore brutal long term contracts.
maybe Bowman also realizes that we have to resign Schmaltz and Cat, and instead of overpaying for players that "maybe" could help us. he went short term and minimal impact guys knowing we have a lot of kids ready as well...I would rather we add a Moore or Riley Nash, but have to think today and tomorrow - we can do more once Hossa's cap hit is gone during the season.
 
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How does that not make him a valuable trade chip? That's exactly what that does.

Also why did you want to overpay?
I didn’t. That’s why I said we would get no body. It doesn’t make him a valuable trade chip, it makes our team worse and makes him worth like a 3rd rounder
 

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I'm fine with Manning. He's really no worse than Cole or Moore and probably won't command as much.
 
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Thanks Flyerfan

Your board is so damn happy

I never thought this would happen to Hawks

Hawk fans dont realize just how bad Manning is

Like I said, if he's used as a 7th, it's fine. He's what you want in a 7th defenseman. The problem begins with if he's used more than what he is
 

ClydeLee

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I didn’t. That’s why I said we would get no body. It doesn’t make him a valuable trade chip, it makes our team worse and makes him worth like a 3rd rounder
Difference in what valuable is then. That what that is to me.

Manning sounds worse than I thought if Powers is right saying it's about 2mil. I thought I would be a number they could burry.
 

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...to all three of these signings. If we're going to be a bad team then just be a bad team. Makes no sense to sign these guys whatsoever and I already hate all of them
 

AmericanDream

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Thanks Flyerfan

Your board is so damn happy

I never thought this would happen to Hawks

Hawk fans dont realize just how bad Manning is
he was a plus/minus of 0 - so using your stat, he did fine...and if you do not like him, he will be great here...very happy with this signing, his mobility and offensive potential.

good signing Stan Bo, actually great signing!
 

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Its about time Bowman starts taking some slack for even signing these guys for Q to overplay them. Better off to go with the young guys as opposed to these guys.
 

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Stan officially lost his damn mind, at least we’ll get a top 3 pick next year right?
 

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That’s gotta be total deal. There is no way they paid 2.25 mil for that guy for 2 years:

Stan also gave Cam Ward a NTC
 

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