Value of: Chris Kreider

[bernmeister]

The ask is what's fair for Kreider, and then you can also have Lindgren (retained)for free.

that's yr op

that is not automatic for me, depends on scope of the package to warrant a freebie
unlike zib
Krieder, IF pushed out the door, will command a good return on his own

 

[FiveTacos]

I would personally do Geekie and the 2026 2nd but I wouldn't move our 1st for Kreider

Rangers are in a tough spot where I think they have to move him but the market might be tougher than they think because he is 33, has a 15 team NTC, speculation on back issues, might be a on decline, just benched, etc.

You might only have a few contenders (and they likely have to be American teams) inquiring

IMO the age isn't a massive issue because the remaining term isn't bad. The UFA market mostly requires signing guys into their late 30s.

Back issues, I'm sure will have to be looked into and cleared.

Decline, well hey, if he were still in his prime he wouldn't be shopped at all.

Benched, I doubt it matters.

The big thing is the NTC, but at this point might he be more willing to waive for some teams just to get out?

I actually think he makes sense for more than just contenders. Cap floor teams are fine with a placeholder salary but with limited term, and when it's someone who can also pop a few goals then great. A midrange team that wouldn't lean heavily on him and is just missing his style of player might see him pushing them up the ranks.

 

[Xspyrit]

ok so would the Rangers fans give up a 1st and/or a good young player for Giroux if he had 2 more years left at 6.5 AAV? And Giroux is currently a better player, like it has been the case all their careers. I wouldn't blame anyone telling me NO.

These things become easy to evaluate when you can get out of your own narrowed telescopic view.

I'm not saying that a team wouldn't want to outbid another one if they still believe enough in him but he has 2 YEARS LEFT at 6.5 AAV. There is a huge RISK factor no matter how you slice it. Which is why there is absolutely no way I'd sarcifice Greig or a 1st to acquire him

Ottawa doesn't have the pieces or cap space to acquire Kreider.

What? Any team has the pieces to acquire Kreider, if they can fit him on their salary cap.

Not happening because of CKs MNTC but for shits and giggles - Grieg, Perron, and 2nd and 4th for a 6th and CK. We’d try to flip Perron if possible at the TD.

It's GREIG but that's an automatic no.

Change Greig to Amadio and it works.

 

[TGWL]

ok so would the Rangers fans give up a 1st and/or a good young player for Giroux if he had 2 more years left at 6.5 AAV? And Giroux is currently a better player, like it has been the case all their careers. I wouldn't blame anyone telling me NO.

These things become easy to evaluate when you can get out of your own narrowed telescopic view.

I'm not saying that a team wouldn't want to outbid another one if they still believe enough in him but he has 2 YEARS LEFT at 6.5 AAV. There is a huge RISK factor no matter how you slice it. Which is why there is absolutely no way I'd sarcifice Greig or a 1st to acquire him



What? Any team has the pieces to acquire Kreider, if they can fit him on their salary cap.



It's GREIG but that's an automatic no.

Change Greig to Amadio and it works.

Giroux is 36 and didn't score 30+ goals last season, so no. If you want to go back to when Giroux was being traded, yes, quite easily. But Giroux isn't saving this team right now.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Who?

I'd only trade for Kreider if Amadio and Perron are going the other way. No cap space

And even then, I think Sens would need to go after a more dynamic forward



Damn, I'd much rather keep Greig than having 33 y/o Kreider



Any GM giving up a 2nd round pick for 100% of that Kreider contract is a BAD GM.

OP doesn't have to list more assets, I wouldn't give up the 2nd.



But that's the thing, he's worth much less than a 2nd. I'd give up that 2nd if you take Perron and Amadio

Player's values are highly related to their contract and Kreider's contract is NO LONGER attractive, simple as that

I’m not sure how you’d rather have Greig but you’re entitled to your opinion.

Greig is 22 and hasn’t really shown he’s much more than a bottom6er at this point and I’m not sure with you’d be convinced otherwise.

Kreider is having a bad year along with the rest of his team but is coming off of a 76 point season and still pacing near 30 g this season.

Youth is great and all but relying too heavily on it gets you in long term playoff droughts.

A guy like Kreider can offer a lot more than what’s on the scoresheet to the younger guys. I also don’t believe he’s “washed” after 1//3 of a season when his production is down a bit.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

I suspect some Buffalo fans wouldn't want him but as an outsider he seems a good example of what they need. Experienced, scores goals (and Buffalo have lots of young playmakers), net front presence and scores deflections. Also has had an A for the Rangers.

$6.5m for 2 more years would give them time for the lots if young talent to grow.

A player like Kreider and someone like Brock Nelson would have a huge benefit to the Sabres.