Value of: Chris Kreider

[thefutures]

Kredier scratched. 50% retained for a 2nd that turns into a 3rd if he doesn't get atleast 10 assists

 

[pld459666]

What's the price for Kreider? He's basically the polished, high end version of what a certain player was supposed to become in Ottawa.

11 goals and a single assit for 12 points in 30 games and the eye test matches the stat line too, as he continues to look lifeless in NY.

Still, Stützle badly needs a winger and a revived Kreider would be a perfect fit. Concurrently, if NYR is looking to rebuild/retool, Kreider/Zibanejad would be to of the first players out the door.

33 yo, 6.5M for 3 years (including this one). What's his value league-wide? And what's the price for Ottawa?

Available: 2025 2nd round pick, Tyler Boucher, Mads Soogard, David Perron, Antom Forsberg (cap), Travis Hamonic (cap), etc.

Kreider - Stützle - Giroux
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Perron
Cousins - Gregor - Amadio
Ostapchuk/Gaudette

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - JBD
Hamonic

Ullmark
Merilainen​

Count out Ottawa

 

[Puikiou]

So basically you want Kreider but won't give up any decent pieces for him.Makes sense

Gonna guess it’d cost a bit more than a 2nd. I’d imagine it’d have to be OTT 1st with protection + Greig and then some minor pieces.

I’d be willing to guess OTT would be on his NTC though.

We must be watching a completely different player here.

Kreider has been terrible this season and taking him on at his full caphit would be a risk for Ottawa. Not the other way around.

The upside for the Sens is that he (might) gel with and get revived by Stützle. However, it's still a risk, as the downside is a 6.5M x 3 anchor.

Not sure how that amounts to Greig + 1st or some of the other outlandish proposals in this tread.

The Rangers' brass must agree too, since its just been announced Kreider will be a healthy scratch. Did you feel the same about Trouba's value?

 

[bernmeister]

What's the price for Kreider? He's basically the polished, high end version of what a certain player was supposed to become in Ottawa.

11 goals and a single assit for 12 points in 30 games and the eye test matches the stat line too, as he continues to look lifeless in NY.

Still, Stützle badly needs a winger and a revived Kreider would be a perfect fit. Concurrently, if NYR is looking to rebuild/retool, Kreider/Zibanejad would be to of the first players out the door.

33 yo, 6.5M for 3 years (including this one). What's his value league-wide? And what's the price for Ottawa?

Available: 2025 2nd round pick, Tyler Boucher, Mads Soogard, David Perron, Antom Forsberg (cap), Travis Hamonic (cap), etc.

Kreider - Stützle - Giroux
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Perron
Cousins - Gregor - Amadio
Ostapchuk/Gaudette

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - JBD
Hamonic

Ullmark
Merilainen​

not serious offer
Kleven + Pinto
for
Kreider

So basically you want Kreider but won't give up any decent pieces for him.Makes sense

tell it like is

His contract is awful and he's washed. He doesn't have much trade value. You should be thankful anyone wants to take him at that cap hit.

cap hit not that bad for 30/+ gs production, he did better on better Rs team that for whatev reason is snakebit
you are confusing him w/Zib who is a waste

For a 33 year old that depends on his speed to be effective, yes it can happen over one off-season.

Yes, depends on speed which he still has -- back issues presum temporary w/cont treatment
But he gets lots of tip ins
no wheels needed there

Pinto or Greig, plus Hamara

Pinto+ Kleven

 

[SML2]

Get the pen out. Time for another letter.

Drury has engineered an epic collapse. This team won the Presidents trophy last season and the wheels have completely come off. If this is really all about the players not liking him he is one of the all time villains in Rangers history.

 

[AirGut]

Can you imagine that NY fans do not want to understand that other teams do not have a need or do not have salary cap space for washed NY players?

These players are assets. Just because you hold contempt against the Rangers doesn't mean 31 other GM's do. It's a f***ing business and Chris Kreider is not some no-name even if his value has dipped. He's available and he's been in the eye of other GM's for quite some time, now is the time to snag him at a good price if you ever wanted him. It's really that simple.

Kreids @ $3M is more than enough to talk turkey with other teams. Drury isn't looking for the world in return but he's also not going to get low-balled just because people think the Rangers are desperate. So sick of people pretending there isn't real Hockey trades to be made with NYR just because it's a NY team they dislike.

The Kreider for Brandon Saad+ proposal is quite interesting to me because it seems to be something in the flavor of what Drury & Armstrong would do.

 

[Qward]

Not interested in Zibanejad for Brassard round 2

 

[2CHAINZ]

I would be willing to give you absolutely nothing of any value for Kreider. I would also demand you take back Perron.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Kreider will fetch a haul at the deadline with like 20% retention.

Don't see NYR doing anything now, their season is over. They'll get the best return to a contender at the deadline.

 

[SKNJD9]

to NJD for a 2nd and Chase Stillman /s

Bratt - Jack - Kreider

 

[quietbruinfan]

As a Bruin fan not interested at any price. I am not a fan of his game; even though his goal scoring has developed in the last two or three years. He is an old 33-34 imo. I don't like local local players coming home either.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Kreider will fetch a haul at the deadline with like 20% retention.

Don't see NYR doing anything now, their season is over. They'll get the best return to a contender at the deadline.

Still far too early for this kind of talk, I think.

They're only 5pts out of a playoff spot.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Still far too early for this kind of talk, I think.

They're only 5pts out of a playoff spot.

As someone who has watched every game this season... they're beyond done.

That's not me being pissed my team isn't playing well. They're not a playoff team.

They've seen massive regression from Kreider, Zibanejad, Trocheck and Panarin. And they've seen slight regression from Lafreniere. Their d-corps is in shambles with 2 bottom pair mercenaries and they have a bunch of rookies in the lineup that haven't contributed anything.

They're done.

 

[Bottle Rocket]

His value truly depends if you think the Kreider of the past is still there somewhere. People will argue until they are blue in the face because they either do or they don't so this thread can easily get ugly, which you know is fun.

Many GMs will stay away if truly he is available. But I bet some will believe he can do better than what he is showing.

And for this reason, his value should not be spare parts or late picks.

 

[BleedBlue14]

We must be watching a completely different player here.

Kreider has been terrible this season and taking him on at his full caphit would be a risk for Ottawa. Not the other way around.

The upside for the Sens is that he (might) gel with and get revived by Stützle. However, it's still a risk, as the downside is a 6.5M x 3 anchor.

Not sure how that amounts to Greig + 1st or some of the other outlandish proposals in this tread.

The Rangers' brass must agree too, since its just been announced Kreider will be a healthy scratch. Did you feel the same about Trouba's value?

I'm not really tracking it off of his performance this year, where frankly, something has been off in regards to the whole team. I'm basing that assumption off of his recent career statistics and the reputation he has amongst the league.

I understand that that's probably not something the Sens should gamble on. But this is a league of more teams than just the Sens, and almost every team could stand to add a 30 goal scorer coming off of a 70+ point season for a relatively moderate cap hit comparatively.

I find it hard to believe that a player is just "washed" after a small sample size when the whole scale of the team seems to be struggling. I'm unaware of his individual physical level of performance currently, but seemingly 31 has become the new 40 around here pretty often. It's certainly possible that something has happened and he's unable to physically perform up to his standards, but watching Kopitar put up over a PPG right now at 37, I'm going to side with this is a good hockey player having a rough year.

Having a multi-year contract is something that's probably going to steer rightfully some GMs off, but there's still first line production in the player and someone will pay the price for that especially with the lack of true front of the net point producers like Kreider league-wide.

 

[BleedBlue14]

These players are assets. Just because you hold contempt against the Rangers doesn't mean 31 other GM's do. It's a f***ing business and Chris Kreider is not some no-name even if his value has dipped. He's available and he's been in the eye of other GM's for quite some time, now is the time to snag him at a good price if you ever wanted him. It's really that simple.

Kreids @ $3M is more than enough to talk turkey with other teams. Drury isn't looking for the world in return but he's also not going to get low-balled just because people think the Rangers are desperate. So sick of people pretending there isn't real Hockey trades to be made with NYR just because it's a NY team they dislike.

The Kreider for Brandon Saad+ proposal is quite interesting to me because it seems to be something in the flavor of what Drury & Armstrong would do.

Agree with most of your post. Wanted to comment on the bold part as a Blues fan.

I think Kreider is a viable option given the direction the Blues are going, he fits in line with when Faulks contract expires as well. We also lack scoring currently, but I am of the belief it's because outside of Thomas and Faksa we don't have any true centers. The issue is after the Fowler addition we are really tight to the cap. It would have to be cap in cap out most likely. We also have virtually no 2nd round picks and are far from guaranteed to be a playoff team. We also direly need to add a high end defenseman prior to exiting the retool to go along with Broberg and Parayko. This severely limits what the Blues would most likely offer. As a fan of the Blues I would be pretty upset if they tacked on a 1st to Saad for Kreider given where we are. I would be much more understanding if we tacked on a 2nd and a prospect which our pool has alot of good depth. However, we don't have a 2nd, just a hard bridge to gap.

Summary: would agree it makes sense. Blues just don't really have the expendable pieces to make the move and likely wont pony up the 1st the Rangers would most likely want.

 

[ottawagm]

How many teams would pick him up from waivers at this point?

 

[quietbruinfan]

As someone who has watched every game this season... they're beyond done.

That's not me being pissed my team isn't playing well. They're not a playoff team.

They've seen massive regression from Kreider, Zibanejad, Trocheck and Panarin. And they've seen slight regression from Lafreniere. Their d-corps is in shambles with 2 bottom pair mercenaries and they have a bunch of rookies in the lineup that haven't contributed anything.

They're done.

My Bruins stink at least as much if not more and have much less talent. Stilll think the Rangers can make the playoffs.

 

[FiveTacos]

How many teams would pick him up from waivers at this point?

Several cap floor teams would be all over it. Then in 1-2 years flip him with retention.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Who wants to protect their goalie and take out the competitions?

 

[gritdash60]

Several cap floor teams would be all over it. Then in 1-2 years flip him with retention.

1-2 years? You think Kris Kreiduer isnt worth anything at the deadline?

 

[elmaco]

Kreider for PLD

 

[SML2]

Kreider will fetch a haul at the deadline with like 20% retention.

Don't see NYR doing anything now, their season is over. They'll get the best return to a contender at the deadline.

I disagree. The Rangers have multiple assts that are the type contenders love to add. The chances of them all staying healthy all the way to the deadline, especially the way this year is going, are not good.

Get the arms race going early and make the contenders respond to each addition with their own. Be open for business the entire way.

My Bruins stink at least as much if not more and have much less talent. Stilll think the Rangers can make the playoffs.

 

[FiveTacos]

1-2 years? You think Kris Kreiduer isnt worth anything at the deadline?

Can you trade a waiver pickup that soon?

 

[RangersFan1994]

What's the price for Kreider? He's basically the polished, high end version of what a certain player was supposed to become in Ottawa.

11 goals and a single assit for 12 points in 30 games and the eye test matches the stat line too, as he continues to look lifeless in NY.

Still, Stützle badly needs a winger and a revived Kreider would be a perfect fit. Concurrently, if NYR is looking to rebuild/retool, Kreider/Zibanejad would be to of the first players out the door.

33 yo, 6.5M for 3 years (including this one). What's his value league-wide? And what's the price for Ottawa?

Available: 2025 2nd round pick, Tyler Boucher, Mads Soogard, David Perron, Antom Forsberg (cap), Travis Hamonic (cap), etc.

Kreider - Stützle - Giroux
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Perron
Cousins - Gregor - Amadio
Ostapchuk/Gaudette

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - JBD
Hamonic

Ullmark
Merilainen​

Ridley Greig