Chris Kreider - In the running for an obscure record this season

[benfranklin]

Currently tied for 30th in goals with 9 and dead last with 0 assists. That is a pace for 39 goals and 0 assists (math guy here). Obviously there are players who are goal scorers primarily and their assist totals aren't that high, but 0 is impressive.

Not that this is a real record, but I went back to 1980 and these are the best/worst goal to assist discrepancies I could find. Most star players obviously usually have more assists than goals.

Player	Season	Team	GP	G	A	Differential
Brett Hull	19901991	STL	78	86	45	41
Lanny McDonald	19821983	CGY	80	66	32	34
Tim Kerr	19851986	PHI	76	58	26	32
Brett Hull	19891990	STL	80	72	41	31
Brett Hull	19911992	STL	73	70	39	31
Auston Matthews	20232024	TOR	81	69	38	31
Zach Hyman	20232024	EDM	80	54	23	31
Mike Gartner	19901991	NYR	79	49	20	29
Alex Ovechkin	20152016	WSH	79	50	21	29
Alex Ovechkin	20192020	WSH	68	48	19	29
Chris Kreider	20212022	NYR	81	52	25	27
Cam Neely	19931994	BOS	49	50	24	26
Peter Bondra	19971998	WSH	76	52	26	26
Pavel Bure	20002001	FLA	82	59	33	26
Alexander Mogilny	19921993	BUF	77	76	51	25
Adam Graves	19931994	NYR	84	52	27	25
Peter Bondra	19941995	WSH	47	34	9	25
Rick Nash	20032004	CBJ	80	41	16	25
Alex Ovechkin	20142015	WSH	81	53	28	25

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[jetsforever]

Seems like the closest one is that Bondra season but I don't think Kreider can do it if he plays a full season

 

[benfranklin]

Seems like the closest one is that Bondra season but I don't think Kreider can do it if he plays a full season

That Bondra season is nuts too. 59 goal, 16 assist pace he was on.

 

[Quinning]

The Peter Bondra Trophy

 

[Necrobutcher]

Brandon Pirri and his 2014-2015 season in Florida has to be mentioned. He scored 22 goals and had 2 assists in 49 games. That's a 36+3 pace.

 

[EXTRAS]

He's on the pp1 in ny so eventually he will get a bunch of lucky touches for assists.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

He's on the pp1 in ny so eventually he will get a bunch of lucky touches for assists.

Yup, definitely due for some Crosbies (2nd assists) on the power play.

 

[benfranklin]

Yup, definitely due for some Crosbies (2nd assists) on the power play.

Why would you call them that? I saw another poster refer the same to MacKinnon and had to pull up stats for him also.

Sid

10-11 - A1 20 A2 14
11-12 - A1 16 A2 13
12-13 - A1 28 A2 13
13-14 - A1 34 A2 34
14-15 - A1 31 A2 25
15-16 - A1 30 A2 20
16-17 - A1 28 A2 17
17-18 - A1 33 A2 27
18-19 - A1 49 A2 16
19-20- A1 20 A2 10
20-21- A1 20 A2 16
21-22- A1 31 A2 23
22-23 - A1 36 A2 24
23-24 - A1 34 A2 20

 

[TheOrganist]

I noticed this before the Blues/Rangers game and thought it was odd.

 

[Shark Finn]

Currently tied for 30th in goals with 9 and dead last with 0 assists. That is a pace for 39 goals and 0 assists (math guy here). Obviously there are players who are goal scorers primarily and their assist totals aren't that high, but 0 is impressive.

Not that this is a real record, but I went back to 1980 and these are the best/worst goal to assist discrepancies I could find. Most star players obviously usually have more assists than goals.

Player	Season	Team	GP	G	A	Differential
Brett Hull	19901991	STL	78	86	45	41
Lanny McDonald	19821983	CGY	80	66	32	34
Tim Kerr	19851986	PHI	76	58	26	32
Brett Hull	19891990	STL	80	72	41	31
Brett Hull	19911992	STL	73	70	39	31
Auston Matthews	20232024	TOR	81	69	38	31
Zach Hyman	20232024	EDM	80	54	23	31
Mike Gartner	19901991	NYR	79	49	20	29
Alex Ovechkin	20152016	WSH	79	50	21	29
Alex Ovechkin	20192020	WSH	68	48	19	29
Chris Kreider	20212022	NYR	81	52	25	27
Cam Neely	19931994	BOS	49	50	24	26
Peter Bondra	19971998	WSH	76	52	26	26
Pavel Bure	20002001	FLA	82	59	33	26
Alexander Mogilny	19921993	BUF	77	76	51	25
Adam Graves	19931994	NYR	84	52	27	25
Peter Bondra	19941995	WSH	47	34	9	25
Rick Nash	20032004	CBJ	80	41	16	25
Alex Ovechkin	20142015	WSH	81	53	28	25

If you're such a (math guy here), why not include the percentage difference too?

 

[Jared Dunn]

Caufield has narrowed the gap between stats a bit lately but he was frontrunner for the Cy Young for a while there

 

[benfranklin]

If you're such a (math guy here), why not include the percentage difference too?

What is the point of that? Math guy was a joke aimed at the pace for 0 assists over 82 games which is obviously nearly impossible for any star to hold onto. Hell have one bounce off his ass for an assist eventually.

 

[Russian_fanatic]

Why would you call them that? I saw another poster refer the same to MacKinnon and had to pull up stats for him also.

Sid

10-11 - A1 20 A2 14
11-12 - A1 16 A2 13
12-13 - A1 28 A2 13
13-14 - A1 34 A2 34
14-15 - A1 31 A2 25
15-16 - A1 30 A2 20
16-17 - A1 28 A2 17
17-18 - A1 33 A2 27
18-19 - A1 49 A2 16
19-20- A1 20 A2 10
20-21- A1 20 A2 16
21-22- A1 31 A2 23
22-23 - A1 36 A2 24
23-24 - A1 34 A2 20

Should honestly be called the Bouchard assist. Guy had 25 primary assist to 38 secondary assists last year in the regular season last year. In the playoffs he had 7 primary assists to 19 secondary assists. This year he has 2 primary assists, to 7 secondary assists.

Note: I'm not putting down the player. He's a fantastic player.

 

[benfranklin]

Should honestly be called the Bouchard assist. Guy had 25 primary assist to 38 secondary assists last year in the regular season last year. In the playoffs he had 7 primary assists to 19 secondary assists. This year he has 2 primary assists, to 7 secondary assists.

Note: I'm not putting down the player. He's a fantastic player.

Tyson Barrie 72 point pace running that PP! Be at the top of the PP, give it to one of McDavid/Draisaitl and they give it to the other and boom he gets a secondary helper.

 

[Shark Finn]

What is the point of that? Math guy was a joke aimed at the pace for 0 assists over 82 games which is obviously nearly impossible for any star to hold onto. Hell have one bounce off his ass for an assist eventually.

Because it adds to the comparison. Say 30G 0A vs. 60G 30A, there's a big difference even if the numerical difference is the same. Why am I typing this my food is getting cold.