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CHL players asking judge to stop major junior drafts

Petes1987

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I don’t think a US court has any jurisdiction in anything to do with the CHL where the majority of the teams are based in Canada and all the three leagues’ management structure is in Canada. Even if it is successful in a US court how could any ruling be enforced in Canada as we are not under the jurisdiction of US law? This appears to another frivolous lawsuit by two disgruntled players that will never go anywhere.
 
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Yeah this one is going nowhere. Drafts are in place to make sure that leagues are competitive. Otherwise you get European football. Same 2-3 teams win the league every year with no hope for the mid to small market teams. Plus if they don't like the CHL team they got selected by, they can always go to the USHL, NAHL, BCHL (as a FA).
 
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Kingpin794 said:
Yeah this one is going nowhere. Drafts are in place to make sure that leagues are competitive. Otherwise you get European football. Same 2-3 teams win the league every year with no hope for the mid to small market teams. Plus if they don't like the CHL team they got selected by, they can always go to the USHL, NAHL, BCHL (as a FA).
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I believe these leagues hold a "draft" as well so not sure how they can be stop 1 league from holding a draft but exempt others?
 

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I believe these leagues hold a "draft" as well so not sure how they can be stop 1 league from holding a draft but exempt others?
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they are suing the chl because there is more money in it for them, but as always, the kids wont get much and the lawyers will get 80 percent of it, not that this will be successful
 
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If they did away with the draft, teams like the Niagara IceDogs would never get any top players. Who knows, maybe the players will win the case and the draft will be abolished. Better sell the IceDogs quick Darren. lol :laugh:
 

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If they did away with the draft, teams like the Niagara IceDogs would never get any top players. Who knows, maybe the players will win the case and the draft will be abolished. Better sell the IceDogs quick Darren. lol :laugh:
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This lawsuit is not going to go anywhere. Canada is a sovereign country and are not bound by US laws and court decisions. The majority of the teams in the CHL are located in Canada and all three league are as well. There is arguments because they do business in New York State they have jurisdiction but the CHL could simply ignore any decision of a US court because the US court has no way to enforce it in Canada.
 
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Petes1987 said:
This lawsuit is not going to go anywhere. Canada is a sovereign country and are not bound by US laws and court decisions. The majority of the teams in the CHL are located in Canada and all three league are as well. There is arguments because they do business in New York State they have jurisdiction but the CHL could simply ignore any decision of a US court because the US court has no way to enforce it in Canada.
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Although not black and white you have to remember there is substantial cross border business going on everyday between the 2 countries and lots of laws and agreements between states/provinces that cover each other's laws and policies. It will definitely have some form of impact all be it what that is, is not clear. It also would have an impact on any cross border league that has a draft. I'm sure all pro and amateur leagues are watching this with interest.

I can't see this having any legs but if , and a big if, they win there would definitely be an appeal and the big gun pro leagues would get involved at that point.
 
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what a selfish, frivolous and nonsensical waste of time, money, and resources.

without the parity provided by the draft there would be no point in 10-15 of the OHL organizations even existing because they'd never be competitive.
 
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what a selfish, frivolous and nonsensical waste of time, money, and resources.

without the parity provided by the draft there would be no point in 10-15 of the OHL organizations even existing because they'd never be competitive.
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Unfortunately a lot of kids/people these days are very selfish and entitled. A lot of them think the world revolves around them.
 
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Unfortunately a lot of kids/people these days are very selfish and entitled. A lot of them think the world revolves around them.
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agreed. and i think some players who think they're going to the show but it doesn't pan out get desperate after their hockey career fizzles.

*cough* tucker tynan *cough*
 

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agreed. and i think some players who think they're going to the show but it doesn't pan out get desperate after their hockey career fizzles.

*cough* tucker tynan *cough*
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That’s 95 percent of these lawsuits. kids who flamed out, found out that they are not nearly as good as mom and dad told them, and instead of saying ‘wow, I sucked’ they look to blame someone else.

the chlpa lawsits were filled with kids like that.
 
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And NHL and NBA LOL
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I completely disagree with the lawsuit but the difference would be a draft telling minors where they have to play or not play vs adults.

Also I think the USHL is excluded because they also use the tender system where players can just choose their team if they want and the team just loses a draft pick. Honestly not the worst idea for the OHL either if they have to change something
 
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bcspragu said:
I completely disagree with the lawsuit but the difference would be a draft telling minors where they have to play or not play vs adults.

Also I think the USHL is excluded because they also use the tender system where players can just choose their team if they want and the team just loses a draft pick. Honestly not the worst idea for the OHL either if they have to change something
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I think if the OHL were to go to a hybrid Draft+Tender system, I think the rules would need to change from the USHL regarding the cost to tender. Maybe it runs in a three year cycle where if you tender a player in year one, you forfeit your 1st and 2nd picks. If you do it again in Year Two or three, you forfeit your first pick that year and the next year.
 
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It won't affect CHL very much.
Most of the 20-21 year olds are not big enough, strong enough to hang in the A.
I think it will be very rare that 19 year olds end up sticking in the A.
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I agree. I think we see more players that the NHL is currently keeping with them end up in the AHL instead. Same players leaving but to the different league. Across the whole CHL, maybe you see an additional 5 players end up gone early? Maybe…
 
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