CHL/NCAA

[RayzorIsDull]

Do not conflate over-all NCAA revenue with specific sports as all are not funded or treated equally. Hockey, for the most part, is a non revenue sport even in most Big10 programs. The lion share of revenue is generated by football and then to a lesser extent basketball (even women's basketball is a bigger generator than men's hockey) and that is where the majority of the expenses (funding) goes into. The collectives (NIL) at most schools that most are talking about here are primarily focused on football (we are talking 80% of all fundraising) and then basketball with a little left over for every other program.

I mentioned this a lot in the prospects thread but the other big change coming is the changes to the NHL-CHL transfer rules. Players will no longer be deciding between the CHL and the NCAA but rather a pro contract or continuing on for further development in the NCAA.

I mentioned before but the NCAA revenue sharing to the big conferences is a huge game changer. Every school in the B1G is getting upwards of 26 mil yearly and each sport is capped on how much money they can get. Some hockey programs will get 10% of that which is more than enough to spread the wealth.

 

[Corso]

I mentioned before but the NCAA revenue sharing to the big conferences is a huge game changer. Every school in the B1G is getting upwards of 26 mil yearly and each sport is capped on how much money they can get. Some hockey programs will get 10% of that which is more than enough to spread the wealth.

The House settlement agreed upon amount is roughly 20.5 million per institution if they agree to opt in. For the sake of argument, let's say that a big 10 hockey program receives 10% of that amount. That would be a little over 2 million. You may think that is a hefty amount, but understand that the revenue sharing includes tuition, board and all other expenses paid. So roughly $50,000 per rostered player would be paid out in tuition board books and fees leaving approximately $26,000 per player. A nice little sum but no where near what an ELC will provide.
This of course is only IF the hockey program receives 10 percent of revenue sharing.

 

[Altek]

With the NCAA rule, I guess any player who goes from the OHL to the NCAA won't use their Education Package that OHL teams hand out.

 

[frontsfan67]

With the NCAA rule, I guess any player who goes from the OHL to the NCAA won't use their Education Package that OHL teams hand out.

my guess is they could just go since the announcement of CHL/NCAA so a guy like Henry mews gets 1 year paid for by OHL for playing out this year and however long he stays in NCAA

Otherwise a guy like cedrick Guindon gets paid for 5 by OHL and however many by NCAA

 

[OMG67]

my guess is they could just go since the announcement of CHL/NCAA so a guy like Henry mews gets 1 year paid for by OHL for playing out this year and however long he stays in NCAA

Otherwise a guy like cedrick Guindon gets paid for 5 by OHL and however many by NCAA

CHL players that do not fulfill their contract forfeit all scholarship money they accumulate. Mews would need to play through his full eligibility not including his OA year. So, since he still had one year remaining on his obligation, he forfeits his education package.

However, these guys will all sign ELCs at some point so it is likely he’d be forfeiting his education package anyway.

The guys that will benefit are the 20 and 21 year olds that fulfill their full obligation to the league. They will carry their education package over to the NCAA so it can cover the elements that may not be covered with their NCAA agreement.

Also keep in mind that they cannot string their scholarships. For example, they cannot play four years NCAA and then go to a CIS school. They can only delay their CHL scholarship for 18-30 months depending on their age when they leave the league.

 

[tomschman]

I mentioned before but the NCAA revenue sharing to the big conferences is a huge game changer. Every school in the B1G is getting upwards of 26 mil yearly and each sport is capped on how much money they can get. Some hockey programs will get 10% of that which is more than enough to spread the wealth.

However, there are only 6 Big 10 Schools that play hockey: Michigan; Michigan State; Penn State; Ohio State; Minnesota and Wisconsin. I know of no movement at any of the other schools to add hockey. The other big money conference, the Southeastern Conference have no schools which play hockey. Many of the 60 some schools that play D I hockey are actually D II in all other sports. The money is not there for these schools.

Only 9 Universities in the Big 4 Conferences play Hockey, The 6 big 10 schools plus Boston College, Notre Dame and Arizona State.

For NCAA hockey as a whole, the money will not be there.

 

[Slap Shot Rick]

However, there are only 6 Big 10 Schools that play hockey: Michigan; Michigan State; Penn State; Ohio State; Minnesota and Wisconsin. I know of no movement at any of the other schools to add hockey. The other big money conference, the Southeastern Conference have no schools which play hockey. Many of the 60 some schools that play D I hockey are actually D II in all other sports. The money is not there for these schools.

Only 9 Universities in the Big 4 Conferences play Hockey, The 6 big 10 schools plus Boston College, Notre Dame and Arizona State.

For NCAA hockey as a whole, the money will not be there.

Notre Dame plays college hockey in the Big 10.

 

[tomschman]

Notre Dame plays college hockey in the Big 10.

They play in the Big 10 hockey league, but will receive no benefit from Big 10 Football or Basketball. They are Independent in Football and play Basketball in theACC.

Frankly, ND is probably more profitable on their own than if they played Football in the Big 10.

 

[Otto]

Something to be considered also, how do federal funding cuts affect a school like Harvard?

 

[donjohnson]

Something to be considered also, how do federal funding cuts affect a school like Harvard?

Schools are definitely looking at cutting sports (and some have) but Harvard has plenty of money.

Here's an example of a D1 team dropping levels because of budget cuts:

AIC Will Drop Men's Hockey Program From Division I To Division II In 2025 - FloHockey

American International College will drop its men's hockey program to the Division II level next season after 27 years at Division I.

www.flohockey.tv

 

[Leviathan899]

06 Luke Ellinas signs with Ottawa, so there’s another good OHL’er who won’t be going to the ncaa and preferred to sign his ELC.