Hockeyville USA
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EP gets a lot of commitments entered into their transfers page. Problem is, they don't keep up on decommitments and thus don't update the pages. They could pay me to do this for not a ton.
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except until this upcoming year they were good enough and even the ones who did have a full ride won't anymore. It shows that the NCAA doesn't actually care about the players while the CHL actually gives 1 year of education(or trade school) for each year played. Even if they don't actually play for the team they should pay for the kids schooling if they still want to come to the school if they had morals
WarriorofTime
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Most schools offer 4-year guaranteed scholarships these days (I know the Big Ten does). Obviously partial scholarships make it a bit less straightforward, but generally if you were offered a full when you signed, you'll have one. If you give it up because you entered the Portal, that's your call.
Of course you’re aware that players get dropped by CHL teams as well. If a whole bunch of college bound kids are coming you can expect more from the bottom ends of the roster there as well.
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Most players on Big Ten rosters do not have full rides. They have 18 scholarships to spread over about 26 players. That will change soon though.
Transfer Portal
165 forwards
89 still available
51 played 15 games or fewer
91 dmen
42 still available
20 played 15 games or fewer
46 goalies
25 still available
24 played 15 games or fewer
Let's not act like these are impact players losing their D1 spot. Heading to the portal was likely their last swing at staying in D1 in general.
WarriorofTime
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Yes I understand with partial scholarships, the "fully guaranteed" isn't the same as it is in Football/Basketball.
Yes, largely players that didn't have spots and just looking to see if there's anything out there. I'm sure at this stage, it's a bit of a holding pattern to see how the dominoes fall down with CHL guys after the NHL Draft.
Players get cut at every other level. It is what it is. Some people sound like Don Cherry bemoaning that Nick from Oakville worked his whole life to be an OHL 12th forward and how it's not right that some Czech guy is coming in to take his spot.
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As someone who is a fan of NCAA hockey, I still feel for those losing scholarships. Just because they maybe weren't great hockey players and may not "deserve" to be DI hockey players, doesn't mean I can't have empathy for them.
It sucks but most hockey players are from relatively well to do families so will be able to finish up school and if they got a season or two in, no one can ever take away from them that they were a D1 hockey player. Which will sound even cooler with all the superstars that are going to be coming through the NCAA now.
agree - it stings i know about 7 kids - great kids and families so i get it but just start the following year . these kids got calls so late as things developed they were completely devastated as their dreams ended . So i’m fired up a bit on it - I guess that’s life because it’s going make college dramatically stronger - but ruling picked winners and losers during the year in which kids had no idea timing on it . I don’t hate the ruling but during the year effects so many kids negative who thought they were playing by the right rules . common sense ! I’m hoping all last minute 20 year old chl kids signed who probaly can’t read all blowup in college lol - they should - never wanted go to college - and coach’s get fired lol- bowling green hoping disaster lol
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I'm with you @jtechkid68 but the sad truth is College coaches have lied and not cared about a good portion of their players for years now. The concept of the student athlete is long gone, and with the transfer portal craziness the coaches think they are running pro teams now.
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It amazes me that in this conversation one factor has been forgotten. Universities are supposed to be places to obtain an education and not just a one or two year way station to the NHL. Call me old fashioned I guess.
common sense post - people forget all CHL kids chose that because frankly they don’t care that much about education !
Entering the portal doesn’t diminish their scholarship. If a kid has a full ride, enters the portal and returns back to the same school, the school still honors it.
Not necessarily.
It is possible to go the CHL route and get an education.
The importance of a university education is only at the level it is because of easy financial aid and a new standard was needed since everyone has a HS diploma now. And even university degrees are becoming not much of anything. We're not far from Korea where degrees are so common companies started using English as a new metric to weed out candidates.
Check my post a few above yours. The days of the student athlete are gone. It's a free for all now with colleges acting like pro teams.
Now some of the Ivys and lesser d1 schools are still providing an eductaion and the student athlete experience, but we have to ask ourselves for how long?
Not to sound like a jackass but I can't help but ask who cares?
Nostalgia and love of tradition are the only links to the concept of a student athlete.
Is it really something to be missed?
Umass hockey just posted 80% of kids are like 3.75gpa and they thrive to be best gpa every year . From my understanding CHL players are extremely low end students - extreme - my view is from bchl from the Ncaa commits which they grade bottom 50% of commits for school - so the ncaa kids from chl not sure if they can actually pass a high end normal college education - thinking not !
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I don't know much of anything how the NCAA works and athletic scholarships down there and all that, but I would hope all those kids who did sign papers and commit to a school for at least a partial scholarship still manage to get it, even if they don't make the team. It really does suck for that group of kids out there who know they aren't pro level, but have been focused the past few years on using their ability to get an education and get funding for that education. It's really wrong to pull that away from a group of kids who are either already in school or about to start their college years.
I get the NCAA wants the best athletes possible and perhaps even put hockey into the same stratosphere as college basketball and all that, but at least do right by the kids who are stuck in the transition right now.
I get the NCAA wants the best athletes possible and perhaps even put hockey into the same stratosphere as college basketball and all that, but at least do right by the kids who are stuck in the transition right now.
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https://x.com/HVHorizonsPSU/status/...om/thread/28688/mooseheads-off-season?page=11
Some talk of the impact on players with previous commitments....he likely stays in Halifax for next season now.
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I‘m interested how good the european players do schoolwise. For regular students the american school/college is a LOT easier than the one back home in europe.
I as a coach care that some of my ex players are getting jerked around and the college dream that they were promised is no longer there. Parents care that the dream their kids worked for their entire lives has been taken away from them due to one decision. Kids care who had future pulled out from under their feet and now are left wondering what they are supposed to do with themsleves.
I don't expect a young dumb basement dweller who spends his entire day on a computer trolling to understand these concepts, but there they are. Maybe if you played a day of hockey your entire life you might be able to share the disappointment.
I was responding to your question about how long the student athlete will be around, not ro any question or concern about the current situation of recommitments.
And that second paragraph.....that's A LOT of odd assumptions ro make of somone. Obviously you're passionate about the current situation but not sure how or why your response veered in that direction.
What, what? In general, the transfer portal empowers players. Athletes are no longer forced to stay in situations they deem unfavorable, albeit due to lack of playing time or whatever.
And if certain coaches lie and cheat their players, the portal will not be good to these coaches.
Coaches are merely reacting to the wishes of players; so much so they almost need to re-recruit their rosters every year.
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Re the transfer portal - the players are just as bad, if not worse, than the coaches with abusing it. The coach's job is to win, not coddle young adults and be afraid to hurt their feelings.
CHL players will be more than fine academically in the NCAA. The absolute last of my worries is them qualifying academically. I will reiterate - college is not hard academically. If you show up and hand in your assignments, that alone will get you around a 3.0
Europeans value education way more than North Americans. I remember in Jrs I lived with a Swede that spoke fairly broken English as it was his first year living in America. He took the SAT later in the year and scored like a 1500.
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Couple more Americans/USHL players signing on with OHL clubs:
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