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To be clear, James Hagens wouldn’t be playing college hockey this year in the brave new world because he would go to CHL and then never leave because he made friends. That is the fraudulent insider’s real position that he’s staking his insider status on.
 
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Corso said:
All of the top schools were against granting eligibility to CHL players at last year's coaches meeting in Naples. Now there may have been various nuances to their opposition but the main reason was that they felt they were winning more than their fair share of recruiting battles against the CHL and they did not want to see the majority of top prospects taking that route as they were uncertain as to what those players would do after playing in the CHL. You can believe your little friend in that they were scared of the CHL O/A upsetting the apple cart if you want, I don't really care and frankly I'm getting tired of your accusatory posts directed my way. So just ignore me, as I will you.
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You're generalizing in a way quite literally no one can know.

If you had said that you heard from one assistant coach as a school considered a "blue blood" program that XYZ, then fine, it would just come down to whether people want to believe you actually have that source. But you're going beyond that to profess to speak for "top schools" as if they're a collective unit, which they are not.

You've done this trope before when pretending like college coaches all share the same objective in terms of setting a precedent. It's ridiculous to pretend like all schools share the same concerns or objectives let alone that someone could possibly know the concerns/objectives of all of them.

I could accept arguendo your claim to have sources and still dismiss what you're saying as prima facie nonsense in the same that I can dismiss your determinative statements about the future--which quite literally no one can know--as nothing more than conjecture.
 
WarriorofTime said:
To be clear, James Hagens wouldn’t be playing college hockey this year in the brave new world because he would go to CHL and then never leave because he made friends. That is the fraudulent insider’s real position that he’s staking his insider status on.
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And he would be in the CHL because either the U17 folds and/or he turns down a spot on the U18. The sources know these things to be inevitable!
 
Is it me or are we going to see lot of the college’s over commit with a ton of kids from all over and see how it falls out in the future .
 
Maine/Harvard/PSU/Miami/WMU have almost 30 or even more commits. Ya, that tactic, AKA the Tony Granato tactic, will bite them in the butt when families realize they have no actual loyalty to the players they offer. What a joke.
 
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Bonin21 said:
Maine/Harvard/PSU/Miami/WMU have almost 30 or even more commits. Ya, that tactic, AKA the Tony Granato tactic, will bite them in the butt when families realize they have no actual loyalty to the players they offer. What a joke.
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Some of these players don't have loyalty to these programs either, Leslie stated he committed to Bowling Green so he has that locked in option if he can't get a pro contract now.
 
Bonin21 said:
Maine/Harvard/PSU/Miami/WMU have almost 30 or even more commits. Ya, that tactic, AKA the Tony Granato tactic, will bite them in the butt when families realize they have no actual loyalty to the players they offer. What a joke.
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It’s completely crazy that these schools do that because the reality your still dealing with kids . I feel with new CHL rule it’s going get even worse as these kids from juniors to college will be treated like cattle .
 
Bonin21 said:
Maine/Harvard/PSU/Miami/WMU have almost 30 or even more commits. Ya, that tactic, AKA the Tony Granato tactic, will bite them in the butt when families realize they have no actual loyalty to the players they offer. What a joke.
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Are they all committed to the same entry year? Seems like a lot of kids will commit early and lock in their spot for two years down the road.
 
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Hazy Little Thing said:
Are they all committed to the same entry year? Seems like a lot of kids will commit early and lock in their spot for two years down the road.
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No

Hockeyville USA said:
Some of these players don't have loyalty to these programs either, Leslie stated he committed to Bowling Green so he has that locked in option if he can't get a pro contract now.
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Maine, WMU, and somewhat PSU and Harvard are schools that are actually decent at hockey, though.
 
As mentioned in the player thread, the ripple effects of Cayden Lindstrom committing and going to the NCAA next year for his 19 year old season would be huge across the CHL & NCAA, with obvious effects on the NHL, AHL, and USHL.
 
I don’t know why it will not happen lot more . Why would a 19 year old go back CHL for that year to play inferior league to the NCAA . It’s a ripple effect because people will argue in the PAST maybe that was the path and league’s were comparable . The NCAA is getting dramatically better and older as more chl kids come and the spead in talent from the two league’s will widen . The CHL was celebrating but if they start losing majority of their high end draft eligible kids and studs that will go to thr NCAA they are going be crying soon . Somebody said at the end only big winner will be NCAA might be right. In my view right now you are seeing the 20 year old come but that’s a quick fix . In the next 5 years , all the draft age studs will come because they need be in best league for the draft . Schaefer and Misa , Portone would be playing college this year and then do another year after before playing pro . It’s a 2 year deal and that’s best development for them .
 
Percentage of active NHL players by nationality. American players have jumped from playing 17 percent of NHL games to 29.5 percent this season. If this trend continues, there could be more U.S. players than Canadians within 15 years
 
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jtechkid said:
Schaefer and Misa , Portone would be playing college this year and then do another year after before playing pro . It’s a 2 year deal and that’s best development for them .
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Maybe, but Celebrini had to take extra classes to enroll early at BU as a 17yo, and wasn't normal at all. It seems more likely to me that this will impact D+1 seasons more than D+0. And we need to see how the CHL-AHL transfer agreement evolves because not having the 20yo restriction and having a clean pipeline from CHL-AHL-NHL might significantly nerf the benefit of having to decide between top end NCAA and going back to CHL when you might be overcooked there (for R1 tier prospects).
 
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Hockeyville USA said:
As mentioned in the player thread, the ripple effects of Cayden Lindstrom committing and going to the NCAA next year for his 19 year old season would be huge across the CHL & NCAA, with obvious effects on the NHL, AHL, and USHL.
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He's sort of a unique case in that his injury has kept him unsigned and out of action for an entire year. There are other players that would be better indicators of some kind of big effect.
 
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Percentage of active NHL players by nationality. American players have jumped from playing 17 percent of NHL games to 29.5 percent this season. If this trend continues, there could be more U.S. players than Canadians within 15 years
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That's not how extrapolation of those kinds of rates works. Kind of like how at one point there were no left handed people and then that grew rapidly. You COULD have extrapolated that lefties would out number right handed people but things leveled out. Likewise there will be an upper limit to how big the percentage of Americans in the NHL is. Have to think 33% is about the upper bounds.
 
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He's sort of a unique case in that his injury has kept him unsigned and out of action for an entire year. There are other players that would be better indicators of some kind of big effect.
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As Ive long maintained, there are going to some high end CHL players that will be in the NCAA next season. I don't believe it will be a massive amount though that set's a precedent. Most of those players are looking for pro contracts.

We will know a lot more this Spring and things will start to become clear coming up to and following the draft.
 
coooldude said:
Maybe, but Celebrini had to take extra classes to enroll early at BU as a 17yo, and wasn't normal at all. It seems more likely to me that this will impact D+1 seasons more than D+0. And we need to see how the CHL-AHL transfer agreement evolves because not having the 20yo restriction and having a clean pipeline from CHL-AHL-NHL might significantly nerf the benefit of having to decide between top end NCAA and going back to CHL when you might be overcooked there (for R1 tier prospects).
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The late birthday Canadians could play their DY in the NCAA, but the normal birthdays would have to accelerate.
 
Kingpin794 said:
That's not how extrapolation of those kinds of rates works. Kind of like how at one point there were no left handed people and then that grew rapidly. You COULD have extrapolated that lefties would out number right handed people but things leveled out. Likewise there will be an upper limit to how big the percentage of Americans in the NHL is. Have to think 33% is about the upper bounds.
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Why is 33% the limit? That sounds very random. Anything backing it up?
 
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