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AhosDatsyukian

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Done watching, game over. Also will not be renewing my NBA League Pass next year that I got this year for the first time to watch more Hornets games. Trash franchise and a stupid f***ing sport
 

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Done watching, game over. Also will not be renewing my NBA League Pass next year that I got this year for the first time to watch more Hornets games. Trash franchise and a stupid f***ing sport
I don't blame you man. Another embarrassing trash loss by the Hornets. Michael Jordan f***ing sucks and I hate him, I don't care how good he was as a player. Clown owner and clown basketball mind and probably an even worse person
 

HisIceness

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Game over. Another embarrassing showing in the pity-party play-in tournament. 2nd longest current playoff drought in the league. 20 years since last playoff series victory.

Done watching, game over. Also will not be renewing my NBA League Pass next year that I got this year for the first time to watch more Hornets games. Trash franchise and a stupid f***ing sport
Yeah man, LaMelo is great TV but honestly there's just better Basketball to watch than the Hornets.
I don't blame you man. Another embarrassing trash loss by the Hornets. Michael Jordan f***ing sucks and I hate him, I don't care how good he was as a player. Clown owner and clown basketball mind and probably an even worse person
Some Kings reporter for the Sacramento Bee recently wrote a pretty scathing write up against Vivek Ranadive who actually saved that franchise from relocation. Don't expect that from any Hornets writer, I guess because MJ is a Tar Heel and the "GOAT", that saves him from criticism. Dude is up there with Snyder and Dolan and Ranadive for worst owner in sports but no one in media will admit this.
 
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Some Kings reporter for the Sacramento Bee recently wrote a pretty scathing write up against Vivek Ranadive who actually saved that franchise from relocation. Don't expect that from any Hornets writer, I guess because MJ is a Tar Heel and the "GOAT", that saves him from criticism. Dude is up there with Snyder and Dolan and Ranadive for worst owner in sports but no one in media will admit this.
This is honestly the worst part. No actual writer with clout will go after Jordan too harshly, be it because they're scared or their company is scared.
 

HisIceness

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This is honestly the worst part. No actual writer with clout will go after Jordan too harshly, be it because they're scared or their company is scared.
The sad thing is, even a lot of fans still wont admit this (although some are starting to see the light). He bought the team in February of 2010 and the only real thing of note has been the name change.
 
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AhosDatsyukian

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Hornets got some good news last night... with the Pelicans winning we get their 1st round pick this year now instead of two 2nds (for Devonte Graham). That pick will almost certainly be 15 overall.
 
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Hornets got some good news last night... with the Pelicans winning we get their 1st round pick this year now instead of two 2nds (for Devonte Graham). That pick will almost certainly be 15 overall.
Oh so the Hornets have 2 misses in the first round rather than their norm.
The sad thing is, even a lot of fans still wont admit this (although some are starting to see the light). He bought the team in February of 2010 and the only real thing of note has been the name change.
They have been so god awful at drafting ever since the franchise was resurrected as the Bobcats that it really is impressive. At this point, if they ever did luck themselves into a generational talent, I'm not sure they'll know what to do with it.

Oh, and if there was ever a franchise who could legitimately use a multi-year all-in tankjob like the Sixers pulled off, its the Hornets. If the franchise is going to continue failing, at least get some good players out of it.
 
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AhosDatsyukian

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Oh so the Hornets have 2 misses in the first round rather than their norm.

They have been so god awful at drafting ever since the franchise was resurrected as the Bobcats that it really is impressive. At this point, if they ever did luck themselves into a generational talent, I'm not sure they'll know what to do with it.

Oh, and if there was ever a franchise who could legitimately use a multi-year all-in tankjob like the Sixers pulled off, its the Hornets. If the franchise is going to continue failing, at least get some good players out of it.
You must not follow the team at all. Ever since Mitch Kupchak (the GM behind 5 titles for the Lakers) was hired in 2018 the team's drafting has been amazing.

Borrego fired is big news, and I'm glad about it. Let Mitch pick the next HC, hopefully one who can coach defense. This team should make the playoffs next year.
 

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Hornets got some good news last night... with the Pelicans winning we get their 1st round pick this year now instead of two 2nds (for Devonte Graham). That pick will almost certainly be 15 overall.
Careful there. The Pelicans don't know it's a damned show -- they think it's a damned fight.
 
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Careful there. The Pelicans don't know it's a damned show -- they think it's a damned fight.
It actually doesn't matter what the Pelicans do from here on out. That pick for us is 15th overall regardless. The draft picks don't re-seed based on playoff outcome, the worst record in the playoffs picks 15th and that's NO (now owned by us).
 
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HisIceness

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The Hornets should do what the Canes did in 2018 and hire the captain of the championship-winning team and, uhhh, oh wait. Frank Vogel come on down!?

And holy moly, the Charlotte Observer has called out MJs ownership. I repeat, the Charlotte Observer is not kissing MJs ass for once


Jordan was still playing then in the glorious decade of the 1990s for the Bulls, beating up on the Hornets and everyone else whenever he got the chance. Jordan owned Charlotte then, which wasn’t good for Hornets fans. Jordan owns them now, too. And that hasn’t been good for Hornets fans either.

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/s...tt-fowler/article260663747.html#storylink=cpy
 

Navin R Slavin

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The Hornets should do what the Canes did in 2018 and hire the captain of the championship-winning team and, uhhh, oh wait. Frank Vogel come on down!?

And holy moly, the Charlotte Observer has called out MJs ownership. I repeat, the Charlotte Observer is not kissing MJs ass for once

So... here's a question.

What's Jordan actually doing that's wrong?

Is he not spending enough? Is he bringing in bad people? Mitch Kupchak is good, right?

Like, I know literally nothing about Hornets basketball.
 
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Daeavorn

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So... here's a question.

What's Jordan actually doing that's wrong?

Is he not spending enough? Is he bringing in bad people? Mitch Kupchak is good, right?

Like, I know literally nothing about Hornets basketball.

I know for a little while he would draft very poorly, like taking Frank Kaminsky over Justice Winslow.
 

HisIceness

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So... here's a question.

What's Jordan actually doing that's wrong?

Is he not spending enough? Is he bringing in bad people? Mitch Kupchak is good, right?

Like, I know literally nothing about Hornets basketball.


This video details a lot of what's gone wrong but I'll add this and I'm going to try to make it short and sweet.

I was a Bobcats season-ticket holder in the years before the name change. I got to attend a Q&A STH event where MJ was speaking before the season-opener. He showed up late, barely spoke about his vision for the team, and mostly just sold the crowd on his Jumpman shit. If you've ever been to a game, you probably were "aware" that the team store had some Jumpman item of the game for 15% off or something (and yet it was still going to cost you well over $100). I was disappointed by this but some older STH told me this is typical MJ, sells himself before anything else.

Now bad owners are bad owners but lets be honest, no one is going to write a positive article about Dan Snyder because Snyder was the "GOAT" pre-owner days. MJ I feel gets given a pass by the media (local and national) because everyone is so blinded by his playing days that they can't bring themselves to be critical of his ownership of the Hornets. I'm convinced some people out there would literally die to defend MJs honor as the "GOAT", it's honestly sickening the amount of worship this guy gets.

The Hornets being mediocre is what it is, it honestly doesn't bother me that much anymore and as I've stated many times before, the Hurricanes come first in my book 100 times out of 100. But take MJ out as owner and put in some random billionaire named Dan Smith but keep the same results, wouldn't there be some big pushback against Smith? Would Dan Smith be worshipped for his days pre-owner? The answer is no. Robert Sarver of the Suns is hated among Suns fans and his teams have been way more successful than Jordans Hornets.

And I say this as someone who was a fan. I say "Was" because the older I get and the more I understand the business of sports, the less I think of him as a player. Absolutely a great player, but he hit it big at a time when the NBAs popularity was exploding and he became the face of the league, and you can't have the face of the league not win 6 championships. And considering the league under Stern was accused of being rigged, I wouldn't be shocked if some of those championships came with some help from the NBA offices. But no one will talk about that because it dares to question the greatness of MJ.

And then there's the stories about how he's a dick off the court too. I mean when Scottie Pippen and Charles Barkley aren't your pals anymore that's kind of telling.
 
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