Player Discussion Charlie McAvoy II - UPDATE 4/10 Signed ELC

[rocketdan9]

Which game would you play him. Vs Sens or Capitals?

 

[BruinDust]

Now that the Bruins have clinched a playoff spot, burning a year of McAvoy's ELC just so he can replace Colin Miller or JM Liles as the 6th D-man is just plain foolish.

Then factor in it would force either him or Kevan Miller to play their off-side, which we've seen Kevan do (although I assume there is a reason they switched the guy playing their off-side from Kevan to Colin), but I'd be reluctant to ask McAvoy to start his NHL career on the left-side.

 

[rocketdan9]

Now that the Bruins have clinched a playoff spot, burning a year of McAvoy's ELC just so he can replace Colin Miller or JM Liles as the 6th D-man is just plain foolish.

Then factor in it would force either him or Kevan Miller to play their off-side, which we've seen Kevan do (although I assume there is a reason they switched the guy playing their off-side from Kevan to Colin), but I'd be reluctant to ask McAvoy to start his NHL career on the left-side.

No choice

 

[DarrenBanks56]

Now that the Bruins have clinched a playoff spot, burning a year of McAvoy's ELC just so he can replace Colin Miller or JM Liles as the 6th D-man is just plain foolish.

Then factor in it would force either him or Kevan Miller to play their off-side, which we've seen Kevan do (although I assume there is a reason they switched the guy playing their off-side from Kevan to Colin), but I'd be reluctant to ask McAvoy to start his NHL career on the left-side.

Its up to the team.
I think he'll play this year though.

I think he'd be an upgrade of CMiller. Liles is better than CMiller

 

[DKH]

Now that the Bruins have clinched a playoff spot, burning a year of McAvoy's ELC just so he can replace Colin Miller or JM Liles as the 6th D-man is just plain foolish.

Then factor in it would force either him or Kevan Miller to play their off-side, which we've seen Kevan do (although I assume there is a reason they switched the guy playing their off-side from Kevan to Colin), but I'd be reluctant to ask McAvoy to start his NHL career on the left-side.

It's not foolish it's the way business is being done

Boeser got it White got it - those 2015 college kids are getting it

Krug got it

Tanev got it

If I'm the player agent and the precedent is set I am playing hard ball

It's not even that big a deal - if the player is good they will work out long term deal

If Pasta had it he would have been signed on last year not this year and it would have been a lot cheaper

 

[BruinDust]

It's not foolish it's the way business is being done

Boeser got it White got it - those 2015 college kids are getting it

Krug got it

Tanev got it

If I'm the player agent and the precedent is set I am playing hard ball

It's not even that big a deal - if the player is good they will work out long term deal

If Pasta had it he would have been signed on last year not this year and it would have been a lot cheaper

I agree, if it was agreed upon behind close doors that they would burn the year for him and it was contingent to get him to sign, then you do it. Like you said pretty standard practice around the league.

But if it wasn't, and McAvoy signed based on the assumption he could very well play the remainder of the season in Providence and still have 3-years remaining on his ELC starting next season, I see no reason to bring him up with the assumption he's some massive upgrade at the 6th D position.

Liles or Colin are perfectly capable as the 6th D.

 

[Dellstrom]

Now that the Bruins have clinched a playoff spot, burning a year of McAvoy's ELC just so he can replace Colin Miller or JM Liles as the 6th D-man is just plain foolish.

Then factor in it would force either him or Kevan Miller to play their off-side, which we've seen Kevan do (although I assume there is a reason they switched the guy playing their off-side from Kevan to Colin), but I'd be reluctant to ask McAvoy to start his NHL career on the left-side.

Pretty sure it's not an option. Seems like this is something they discussed, or a condition for him signing now and not staying at college.

Will be interesting to see where he plays. Could be tomorrow but that's a big game. Will show how much confidence they have in him.

 

[Beesfan]

I am probably alone on this, but I would have him play all three games in Providence this weekend, and then make the decision to call him up depending on who our first round match up is.

If we are playing the Caps, I don't want to burn a year of the ELC just to depart in the first round.

If we are playing Ottawa or Toronto, then we stand a good chance, and I would call him up as an X-factor so long as he performs well in Providence this weekend.

Honestly, the best thing for his development is to play 8 regular season games in Providence and hopefully a long playoff run (and if not, World Championships). But if we have a chance to make a deep run, then we need all hands on deck.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

It's not foolish it's the way business is being done

Boeser got it White got it - those 2015 college kids are getting it

Krug got it

Tanev got it

If I'm the player agent and the precedent is set I am playing hard ball

It's not even that big a deal - if the player is good they will work out long term deal

If Pasta had it he would have been signed on last year not this year and it would have been a lot cheaper

Couldn't agree more.

 

[ODAAT]

Question for you fans, let`s say McAvoy gets the call up, plays then the B`s are eliminated at some point.

Is he then eligible to return to Providence if they are still in a playoff series?

Sorry, might be a foolish question but I`m never sure about this stuff

 

[rocketdan9]

Question for you fans, let`s say McAvoy gets the call up, plays then the B`s are eliminated at some point.

Is he then eligible to return to Providence if they are still in a playoff series?

Sorry, might be a foolish question but I`m never sure about this stuff

I think its a solid question

I was under the impression mcavoy, jfk(possibly bjork) will get to dress for 1 game min... But during the playoffs would get sent down to providence for their playoffs run

 

[BruinDust]

Question for you fans, let`s say McAvoy gets the call up, plays then the B`s are eliminated at some point.

Is he then eligible to return to Providence if they are still in a playoff series?

Sorry, might be a foolish question but I`m never sure about this stuff

I thought I read somewhere that the whole "Clear-day" rosters for being eligible for the AHL playoffs has been eliminated, meaning McAvoy and others could be sent to Providence at the conclusion of Boston's season. Makes sense as we didn't see a bunch of paper transactions just to make guys eligible for the AHL playoffs as we saw with other in the past.

 

[ODAAT]

I thought I read somewhere that the whole "Clear-day" rosters for being eligible for the AHL playoffs has been eliminated, meaning McAvoy and others could be sent to Providence at the conclusion of Boston's season. Makes sense as we didn't see a bunch of paper transactions just to make guys eligible for the AHL playoffs as we saw with other in the past.

much appreciated

 

[Jorah Marshmont]

I also have a question. The way I understand it is if McAvoy plays a game in the NHL OR AHL under his ELC, he would burn a year, correct?

So if the plan really was to burn a year, why did he sign an ATO to begin with? Why not just burn that year from the get go?

 

[ODAAT]

I also have a question. The way I understand it is if McAvoy plays a game in the NHL OR AHL under his ELC, he would burn a year, correct?

So if the plan really was to burn a year, why did he sign an ATO to begin with? Why not just burn that year from the get go?

good question, one which I have no answer to

 

[riverhawkey91]

I also have a question. The way I understand it is if McAvoy plays a game in the NHL OR AHL under his ELC, he would burn a year, correct?

So if the plan really was to burn a year, why did he sign an ATO to begin with? Why not just burn that year from the get go?

Yes, if he signs his ELC to start in '16/'17 and then plays a game under it (NHL or AHL), it would burn a year. But I don't think the plan necessarily was to burn that year from the start, not like JFK anyways.

If the Bruins were going to spend the rest of the season in a battle to qualify for the playoffs, I don't think they'd bring him up and burn it. There probably wouldn't be much of an opportunity to play, and that's not a time when you want to just throw the kid to the wolves. Since you already have him on an ATO, there wouldn't be much of a point to it from the Bruins' POV.

I've been fairly outspoken on here about not wanting them to burn a year of his ELC, but that all changes with the playoffs. If they honestly think he can come up, play the last couple games and then be a factor in the playoffs, they should absolutely do it. NHL playoff experience is downright the best experience a player can get, and frankly with the Jekyll/Hyde state this team has been in the last few years, who even knows if they get back there in the next few years. If they really think he can hack it, even a 6D, right now, burn the year and don't think twice.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

 

[BergyWho37]

Why tweet this ?

Did I miss he signed ELC

 

[BruinDust]

Why tweet this ?

Did I miss he signed ELC

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Its up to the team.
I think he'll play this year though.

I think he'd be an upgrade of CMiller. Liles is better than CMiller

This is crazy talk.

 

[ON3M4N]

Question for you fans, let`s say McAvoy gets the call up, plays then the B`s are eliminated at some point.

Is he then eligible to return to Providence if they are still in a playoff series?

Sorry, might be a foolish question but I`m never sure about this stuff

IIRC ELC's are two-way contracts, so guys like McAvoy & JFK can get sent down. I believe you could see Bjork and Carlo go down too

 

[pisele]

IIRC ELC's are two-way contracts, so guys like McAvoy & JFK can get sent down. I believe you could see Bjork and Carlo go down too

This is what I could not figure out. Read that JFK is eligible for NHL Playoffs by signing an ELC. He cannot go down to Providence to play in the AHL Playoffs. Only NHL Playoffs.

McAvoy signed an ATO, which makes him eligible for both the NHL and AHL Playoffs.

Could be they wanted McAvoy to get AHL playoff experience should the Bruins have a short playoff series? He signed his deal before they qualified. There is a difference in the two deals. Not sure if the visa issues had anything to do with this?

 

[Fonzerelli]

I thought I read somewhere that the whole "Clear-day" rosters for being eligible for the AHL playoffs has been eliminated, meaning McAvoy and others could be sent to Providence at the conclusion of Boston's season. Makes sense as we didn't see a bunch of paper transactions just to make guys eligible for the AHL playoffs as we saw with other in the past.

100% correct.

 

[Fonzerelli]

This is what I could not figure out. Read that JFK is eligible for NHL Playoffs by signing an ELC. He cannot go down to Providence to play in the AHL Playoffs. Only NHL Playoffs.

McAvoy signed an ATO, which makes him eligible for both the NHL and AHL Playoffs.

Could be they wanted McAvoy to get AHL playoff experience should the Bruins have a short playoff series? He signed his deal before they qualified. There is a difference in the two deals. Not sure if the visa issues had anything to do with this?

To be eligible for the AHL playoffs you have to have played a game in the AHL (I'm 99.999% sure on this). McAvoy has now. JFK has not.

McAvoy signed the ATO to get things started and didn't mind going to Providence while they hammer out his ELC.

Presumably, JFK's agent didn't want him going to Providence on an ATO (or maybe at all, who knows). Without playing a game in the AHL, I'm pretty sure (but not 100%) that JFK is not eligible to play in the AHL post season.

 

[ashnathan]

If he doesnt get a game before seasons end, can he play in the playoffs? Or does he need to play in a REG season game to be able to?