Management Charlie Jacobs, Bob Sweeney and Cam Neely speak to the media from the Bruins Black and Gold Gala

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So you are counting last year's draft where no one has even played in the NHL outside of Celebrini.

Of those 36 picks, only 3 were first rounders: Beecher (30th), Lysell (21st) and Letourneau (27th).

Also, 3 second rounds: Lohrei (58th), Poitras (54th) and a complete miss Axel Andersson.

Also got Lauko with a third rounder.

19 of the 36 picks were taken in rounds 5-7.

That is indeed doing very well.
He has drafted one top 6 forward in a decade full of drafts. A 1st pair defenseman, an entire 2nd pair and a front line goalie. That's "very" well?
 
Well last years draft would count under lately even though it only constituted as 4 of those picks.

I wished I had you as a teacher in High School
Just don't bring up this years first pick who has 2 assists in college and went from projected top 6 forward to 4th liner playing four minutes. Don't dare question the establishment. Don't being up all the LHD drafted and how there are zero on the roster or all the centers they picked that don't actually play center anymore.
 
So the analytics disagree with your eye test?
Are you trying to be snarky Lou?

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Just don't bring up this years first pick who has 2 assists in college and went from projected top 6 forward to 4th liner playing four minutes. Don't dare question the establishment. Don't being up all the LHD drafted and how there are zero on the roster or all the centers they picked that don't actually play center anymore.
I liked that pick. Great up side a swing for the fences. He’s playing on a loaded college team full of soon to be NHLers, hopefully he pans out. Problem being is I’m sure he’s still growing into that frame of his and may take a little longer, than others, and of course he may never play a game in the NHL, but it sure would be nice to see him make it.

Great drafts can help build a dynasty, if you look back at the Habs oilers and Islanders. Or even hitting big in consecutive years or 3 in 4 can help lead you to a cup as the Bruins did from 03-06.
 
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Are you trying to be snarky Lou?

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ahahaha yes, in a joking way of course

I liked that pick. Great up side a swing for the fences. He’s playing on a loaded college team full of soon to be NHLers, hopefully he pans out. Problem being is I’m sure he’s still growing into that frame of his and may take a little longer, than others, and of course he may never play a game in the NHL, but it sure would be nice to see him make it.

Great drafts can help build a dynasty, if you look back at the Habs oilers and Islanders. Or even hitting big in consecutive years or 3 in 4 can help lead you to a cup as the Bruins did from 03-06.
I actually liked it too and still do, just concerned a bit

You're forgetting Lohrei.

Lots that do qualify for your complaint, though.
not sure how I forgot him. I think guys like Poitras and Lysell will be big contributors by next opening season latest.
 
Well those of you who want to bitch about them can bitch about them but it's pretty clear from this interview that Cam and Don aren't going anywhere. Not any time soon anyway.
 
He has drafted one top 6 forward in a decade full of drafts. A 1st pair defenseman, an entire 2nd pair and a front line goalie. That's "very" well?

The obvious riposte here is based on their sheer lack of high picks. If you look at the other teams who have also been pretty perennial playoff teams in the last 5-10 years - the likes of Tampa, Washington and Dallas - have they done any better in the draft? I don't think so.

If you're not in the first round, or at least high second, it's a very tough gig to land any winners. For all that, I would say that Sweeney's drafting could have been better, but it could also have been a lot worse. The problem hasn't so much been the GM, but what the Bruins continue to try to do in staying competitive year after year with only a very limited injection of good young talent. Very hard to do.
 
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What don't they get?
They don’t get that we are not a team built to compete and any lame deadline tinkering won’t change that.

Or, maybe they do get it, but don’t want to publicly admit it bc then Charlie might lose more money from hot dogs and beer sales.

I’m betting the former. I’m also betting they are ill-equipped to right the ship.

They’ve been whistling Dixie for years. It’s finally caught up to them.
 
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Because he is an employee with bosses who are not 'hands off'. Neely for starters clearly has an input in roster management and an ability to at least contest things with Sweeney if not completely override him if he really wants to. And the Jacobs family, Charlie especially, pretty obviously maintain a close interest in the management side of things. And most of all, Don remains subject to the two conditions I outlined above. Charlie Jacobs hasn't exactly been shy in making his expectations and opinions clear on that front.

I do think Sweeney has a lot of trust and latitude. He is ultimately in charge of roster management and I would say is mostly just left to get on with things as he sees fit. His judgment is valued. But those basic expectations and oversight remain and he must operate within them. Were he to stray too far I'd wager he wouldn't last long.

OK.

That sounds like a free reign.

They don’t get that we are not a team built to compete and any lame deadline tinkering won’t change that.

Or, maybe they do get it, but don’t want to publicly admit it bc then Charlie might lose more money from hot dogs and beer sales.

I’m betting the former. I’m also betting they are ill-equipped to right the ship.

They’ve been whistling Dixie for years. It’s finally caught up to them.

I don't get that either.
 
They don’t get that we are not a team built to compete and any lame deadline tinkering won’t change that.

Or, maybe they do get it, but don’t want to publicly admit it bc then Charlie might lose more money from hot dogs and beer sales.

I’m betting the former. I’m also betting they are ill-equipped to right the ship.

They’ve been whistling Dixie for years. It’s finally caught up to them.
They've been riding Chia coat tails for years. Now that well is drying up. Only ones left is Pasta and an aging March.
 
My hope would be JT Miller wants Boston and Vancouver would be ok with getting Lindholm back. Give them Carlo and we have our elite #1 C. If you don’t think he is elite check his stats. If your worried about the locker room crap a lot of people saying it is way over blown.
 
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Just don't bring up this years first pick who has 2 assists in college and went from projected top 6 forward to 4th liner playing four minutes. Don't dare question the establishment. Don't being up all the LHD drafted and how there are zero on the roster or all the centers they picked that don't actually play center anymore.
It's fine to question them, but wasn't Letourneau always going to be a bit of a project? Probably quite the jump going from dominating prep hockey to playing NCAA, I'd be worried if he doesn't show improvement the next two seasons though
 
My hope would be JT Miller wants Boston and Vancouver would be ok with getting Lindholm back. Give them Carlo and we have our elite #1 C. If you don’t think he is elite check his stats. If your worried about the locker room crap a lot of people saying it is way over blown.
I guess it depends on your definition of "Elite".
He has 668 career points in 833 games = 65 points a season and has played 91 playoff games. There are a great deal of miles on his legs.
I do not consider this elite.
At 31 YO, he has 2-3 years of good play left.
I think you are trading apples to apples with Lindholm for JT.
Would rather trade Coyle and maybe another piece for him.

I consider Pasty an elite forward.

Elite IMO are:
McDavid
Draisaitl
Nathan
Aho
Matthews
Hughes
Sid
Ike
Bedard
Barkov

My biggest concern is that he's 32 years old.
He has lots of mileage on his legs at 32 YO. Over 900 games played including playoffs.
 
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He has drafted one top 6 forward in a decade full of drafts. A 1st pair defenseman, an entire 2nd pair and a front line goalie. That's "very" well?

You have responded to my post but it appears you didn't read it.

We're playing Jeopardy here. I give an answer, you reply with the question.

It's fine to question them, but wasn't Letourneau always going to be a bit of a project? Probably quite the jump going from dominating prep hockey to playing NCAA, I'd be worried if he doesn't show improvement the next two seasons though

Remember, he's tall.

Could take him a little longer.
 
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