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[theMajor]

Lombardi is on record saying he'd never fire Darryl out of respect, so he essentially went down with the ship. I could totally see AEG telling him to fire Sutter this morning and Dean refusing to do it.
The press release pretty much spells it out why both were canned. This team is too good to fail this bad after winning two cups in 3 years.

then all the arm-chair GMs on this forum were wrong this whole time?
you dont say...

 

[kingsfan28]

And if that's the case, good for him. He doesn't have his job anymore but he'll always go down with his guy: good or bad. Respect that even though it helped out this team where it is now.

That is my one hope for Blake: no loyalty. If there is one thing he should be good at, it it not handing out retirement contracts.

Totally agree. But like you said, it came at the cost of the team, and somewhere he forgot that you still have to show results that comes with that loyalty .

 

[Telos]

We just got significantly downgraded on experience. For better or worse we will see what that gets us. Not too crazed about DL getting the boot. Especially from being ejected from the entire organization. I guess at the very least his tell-all book with be very interesting...

 

[KingTrouty]

Weal had 8 goals in 23 games this year as a 24 year old.

Lecavalier had 10 in 42 games with the Kings last year at 36. I liked Vinny, but you may be a bit premature in calling that move a winner. And really what did Iginla deal really matter? A team that was dead got a player for free who played pretty well, but again the team was dead.

As a fellow Angel fan did you really want another manager hanging on for years to long based on past accomplishment?

So now we use 20/20 hindsight to fit your agenda, Herb? You deny the VL and Iggy signings were bad? They were fantastic. VL shored up our center depth last year and everyone was calling him a goner prior to the trade.

Iggy, same, but as a top fwd. DL was doing what he could with almost nothing to work with. We was trying to win. Those were two good signings in your response to "name something he has done that was good in the last two years"

As for the Angels, I don't like Soth, but he has a good squad this year. 5-2. Epic comeback the other day. But this is different, brother, than just firing Soth. Who has one Chip in 16 seasons. And is stubborn, a control freak, and has a history of undermining our GMs (Eppler has been amazing thus far, as an aside).

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

then all the arm-chair GMs on this forum were wrong this whole time?
you dont say...

Looks to me like Lombardi and Sutter certainly did something wrong over the past three years.

But there have been a number of fans with their heads buried between their asscheeks to realize this.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Maybe Blake will complete a old boys network hattrick and bring in Tony Granato as a coach

(I like Granato though, I think he'd be a good NHL coach)

Granato had a few good years as head coach in Colorado...but he's now head coach at Wisconsin. I would think they will want someone more recently in the NHL.

Granato joined the Colorado Avalanche as an assistant coach prior to the 2002–03 season. After a sub-par start to the season, the Avalanche fired head coach Bob Hartley on December 18, 2002, and Granato was subsequently promoted to permanent head coach.[10] Despite the slow start under Hartley, the Avalanche went 32–11–4-4 under Granato and captured their ninth consecutive division title (including one win as the Quebec Nordiques). However, they lost in the first round of the 2003 Stanley Cup playoffs to the Minnesota Wild in seven games after a 3–1 series lead. In his first full season behind the bench, Granato led Colorado to a 40–22–20 record, finishing second in their division. During the 2004 Stanley Cup playoffs, the Avalanche defeated the Dallas Stars in five games in the quarterfinals, and lost to the San Jose Sharks in six games in the semifinals.
After the disappointing playoff loss to the Sharks, Granato was replaced by Joel Quenneville. Granato was reassigned and agreed to stay on as an assistant.[11] He held that position for three seasons. On May 22, 2008, Granato was once again named head coach of the Avalanche after the departure of Quenneville for the 2008-09 season.[12][13] The Avalanche posted a record of 32–45–5, the worst since the team moved from Quebec in 1995, and Granato was fired on June 5, 2009.[14][15]
On August 5, 2009, Granato joined the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Penguins, signing on as an assistant coach. Granato guided the Penguin's defense (2.49 goals against per game, 10th) and penalty killing (85.0 percent, fifth) to top-10 finishes in the NHL during the 2013–14 season.[2]
On June 25, 2014, it was announced that the Penguins would not retain their coaching staff for the 2014–15 season.[16]
On July 15, 2014, it was announced that Granato was hired as an assistant coach for the Detroit Red Wings.[17]
On March 30, 2016, it was announced that Granato would be the next head coach at his alma mater, the University of Wisconsin–Madison

 

[LAKings88]

9 pages of buck Blake and Luc.

Did these guys crap in your cereal people?

95% of this board wanted moves to be made and a change in philosophy.

I will hold judgement off until there is something to actually moan about.

From what Hoven said, Blake and Luc advocated for youth early on. Which is what many want to see happen in LA.

Lot up in the air still. Coaches (Stothers included) (Futa)

Heck, Futa might not even have wanted the GM job.

What makes you think they are gonna bring back old mates too? Pure speculation.

I get the shock but Wow! What did you expect? Scotty Bowman to step in.

I loved Blake as a kid. Luc too. Blake has a history that many of us have no inside information on and can't judge. I won't judge them specifically on this job tho until there is something to judge.

 

[fsanford]

Lombardi is on record saying he'd never fire Darryl out of respect, so he essentially went down with the ship. I could totally see AEG telling him to fire Sutter this morning and Dean refusing to do it.
The press release pretty much spells it out why both were canned. This team is too good to fail this bad after winning two cups in 3 years.

Pretty much defined Lombardi's biggest issue he falls in love with guys be it player or coach and it clouds his judgement

 

[kingsfan28]

That is how I feel as well.

You can't just look at these last three years and where the franchise is and pretend it didn't happen or mention 2012 and 2014. That is what the Angels have done with Scioscia and they never returned to that level. Winning a championship should not give you lifetime job security.

But I am not crazy about Blake taking over. Wish they went outside the organization.

Somewhere Craig Button is writing up a 2000 word article for TSN saying how wrong it was to fire both, and the hiring of Blake as gm, when he wasn't even given a interview.

 

[Telos]

After thinking about it, one thing I would probably admit is that Dean and Sutter were probably a package deal. I have doubts that Lombardi could bring himself to axe Sutter, which sounds like it was a big factor in his demise.

 

[KingsFan7824]

We just got significantly downgraded on experience. For better or worse we will see what that gets us. Not too crazed about DL getting the boot. Especially from being ejected from the entire organization. I guess at the very least his tell-all book with be very interesting...

People were ready for that on the roster.

 

[Bandit]

Rob ****ing Blake???? **** off.

 

[KingTrouty]

**** this, dude. Let's go bowling.

 

[Zero Pucks Given]

 

[Reaper45]

9 pages of buck Blake and Luc.

Did these guys crap in your cereal people?

95% of this board wanted moves to be made and a change in philosophy.

I will hold judgement off until there is something to actually moan about.

From what Hoven said, Blake and Luc advocated for youth early on. Which is what many want to see happen in LA.

Lot up in the air still. Coaches (Stothers included) (Futa)

Heck, Futa might not even have wanted the GM job.

What makes you think they are gonna bring back old mates too? Pure speculation.

I get the shock but Wow! What did you expect? Scotty Bowman to step in.

I loved Blake as a kid. Luc too. Blake has a history that many of us have no inside information on and can't judge. I won't judge them specifically on this job tho until there is something to judge.

I have no inside info on Hitler and Stalin either, but I can still judge them.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Contract missteps with Gaborik, Richards, Brown certainly hurt.

What crippled DL was his Lucic and Sekera trades.

Lucic was completely unnecessary move as LAK badly needed defense more than another slow power forward at the time

LAK lost Colin Miller, a 13th overall pick, Martin Jones (who also got flipped for a 1st round pick), and a 21st overall pick

FOR

81 regular season games and 5 playoff games of Milan Lucic

AND

16 regular season games of Sekera

That just awful asset management

 

[LAKings88]

I have no inside info on Hitler and Stalin either, but I can still judge them.

nice hyperbole

 

[Bandit]

9 pages of buck Blake and Luc.

Did these guys crap in your cereal people?

95% of this board wanted moves to be made and a change in philosophy.

I will hold judgement off until there is something to actually moan about.

From what Hoven said, Blake and Luc advocated for youth early on. Which is what many want to see happen in LA.

Lot up in the air still. Coaches (Stothers included) (Futa)

Heck, Futa might not even have wanted the GM job.

What makes you think they are gonna bring back old mates too? Pure speculation.

I get the shock but Wow! What did you expect? Scotty Bowman to step in.

I loved Blake as a kid. Luc too. Blake has a history that many of us have no inside information on and can't judge. I won't judge them specifically on this job tho until there is something to judge.

Yes.

Rob Blake, any issues you have with his playing time with the Kings aside, has DICK for experience as a GM. Looking forward to the LA Kings version of MacTavish and Lowe. I'm sure it's gonna be GREAT.

 

[Mattias]

Dennis Bernstein‏ @DennisTFP · 4m4 minutes ago

Heard Lombardi went against advice of his inner circle to bring back Sutter after last season. Always a gambler lost some big bets lately

There it is. Accountability from ownership and a lack of change of Lombardi to adapt to the new NHL. That and his 'loyalty' card coming in yet again. Thanks for the Cups in the old NHL meta Lombardi. His style of building teams looks to be a dinosaur way of thinking, just in case any of you forgot how horribad the last USA team fared with Dean Lombardi at the helm.

Have fun on the farm Sutter. Thanks for the glory days. I have a strong feeling that he lost the room after being banished from the locker room a couple years ago, and his failure to properly use youth and coaching style doesn't have me surprised one bit he is gone.

Why are so many of you hopping on the Futa wagon? How do you know he didn't want the stress and pressure of the position after watching how Dean Lombardi aged worse than Obama being president? How do you know his way of drafting players is not just Dean Lombardi-lite? The team honestly needs to turn the direction of speed and skill, and maybe Futa just wants to stick with drafting the correct players for the team instead of making all the high end decisions.

With Blake comes some interesting decisions. Does he sell low on certain players (Muzzin/Martinez) or sell high on Carter to restock the pipeline a little? Who would be the best coach for the team at this point? There's a possibility that Blake can do a fine job and half the folks here are ready to crucify the dude already. As for Luc, who the hell knows? But after the draft/expansion list comes out I feel most of us will make our mind up about the Luc/Blake combo even more.

But I remember a lot of posters ready to do the same tar and feather to Sutter when he was first hired too. And look how that turned out: 2 stanley cups.

 

[Bandit]

Sutter had coached a couple NHL games before he was hired by the Kings.

 

[kingskring]

Yes.

Rob Blake, any issues you have with his playing time with the Kings aside, has DICK for experience as a GM. Looking forward to the LA Kings version of MacTavish and Lowe. I'm sure it's gonna be GREAT.

He was GM of the Kings Minor league teams right?

And they have been pretty successful

 

[eleventy]

What's interesting is that I think a possession-monster team can still win in today's NHL. The problem the Kings have had the last few seasons is that they forgot what to do with the puck when they had it. I hope management still recognizes the value in being a possession team, but finds a coach that figures out how to speed up the quicksand the Kings have fallen to.

 

[kingskring]

There it is. Accountability from ownership and a lack of change of Lombardi to adapt to the new NHL. That and his 'loyalty' card coming in yet again. Thanks for the Cups in the old NHL meta Lombardi. His style of building teams looks to be a dinosaur way of thinking, just in case any of you forgot how horribad the last USA team fared with Dean Lombardi at the helm.

Have fun on the farm Sutter. Thanks for the glory days. I have a strong feeling that he lost the room after being banished from the locker room a couple years ago, and his failure to properly use youth and coaching style doesn't have me surprised one bit he is gone.

Why are so many of you hopping on the Futa wagon? How do you know he didn't want the stress and pressure of the position after watching how Dean Lombardi aged worse than Obama being president? How do you know his way of drafting players is not just Dean Lombardi-lite? The team honestly needs to turn the direction of speed and skill, and maybe Futa just wants to stick with drafting the correct players for the team instead of making all the high end decisions.

With Blake comes some interesting decisions. Does he sell low on certain players (Muzzin/Martinez) or sell high on Carter to restock the pipeline a little? Who would be the best coach for the team at this point? There's a possibility that Blake can do a fine job and half the folks here are ready to crucify the dude already. As for Luc, who the hell knows? But after the draft/expansion list comes out I feel most of us will make our mind up about the Luc/Blake combo even more.

But I remember a lot of posters ready to do the same tar and feather to Sutter when he was first hired too. And look how that turned out: 2 stanley cups.

CLICK ME DAMMIT YOU CAN SEE HOW WE REACTED

 

[KingPuckChoo]

You guys wanted DL gone. I better not read complaints about Blake.

add me to the "i'm allowed to make complaints'' folio cause i never mentioned wanting him gone

Sutter yes

and i despise Blake

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Yes.

Rob Blake, any issues you have with his playing time with the Kings aside, has DICK for experience as a GM. Looking forward to the LA Kings version of MacTavish and Lowe. I'm sure it's gonna be GREAT.

at least his hands are tied thanks to the cap hell we're in

cap, might be our friend this time around