first of all the pick is 16, even if you value Kapanen as a mid 2nd rounder, 14+42 got 11 last year, so its still not enough. Distinctly remember habs fans asking 9th+25 flames 1st pick (which at the time was look to be protected because it seems like another sure fire top 10 pick)+more, but somehow a middling prospect is enough to move up 7 spots now lol.
CGY Prospect Swap for Centre
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Ledge And Dairy
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So salty, lmao
1. Ok? Again OP is new to HF. Nobody is fully untouchable but defending a shit offer is going to get you grilled.
2. Highly debatable on EK65, Stamkos still goes #1 but Doughty, Josi, Pietrangelo, and Carlson were all in that draft too. He goes top 5 in a redraft for sure.
Hughes probably goes top 3 in a redraft.
So typical of a Habs fan to say Hutson goes top 3 in his redraft based off half a season in the NHL, I guess Wolf goes top 3 in 2019 too by that logic? Good luck convincing Jersey or Utah fans that Hutson is above Nemec and Cooley.
That Eiserman article was posted in August of 2023. He hadn't even started his draft year season yet. Also it doesn't compare him to either player, it clearly says "drawing comparisons," as in the production he put up in his D-1 year is similar to both of those players when they played in their D-1 seasons. Completely outdated article with a completely different point then you are trying to argue. What is factual is that Parekh is the first defenseman in the OHL to put up over 90 points in his draft year since 1990 (Ryan Ellis came close with 89 points).
3. So you think Calgary would accept a mulligan on that pick and move Parekh for this year's 9th overall? Nonsense, this years top 10 is not remotely as deep as last years. Do you also think the Wild would trade Buium straight up for that 1st?
To my point. Zayne Parekh is not a 9th overall pick. He was drafted at 9th over all yes but as of right now he is widely considered a top 10 prospect in the entire league. If you want Parekh you have to be offering up someone just as valuable.
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And yet Demidov is some how worth a 1st overall after going 5th oa. Take that Lincoln log out of your eyeMove on time. You and others grabbed on that other Habs fan (pondering though) and made it something way more than it should have been. You and others have been trashing Kapanen over and over again for like 2 or 3 pages now. Grow up
Parekh did not go 3rd. He went 9th. I'm not going to attack his game like you are with Kapanen. It would be dumb and provide little context into the purpose of this thread.
This is how you and others are acting... Parekh is now worth the 3rd OA?
I earlier said zib not waiving, which applies generally
there is now some thought he MIGHT waive to an east coast team
there is a thread about maybe Bs wanna/need to get something for Marchand
He is ufa and could extend or return to beantown
all the above in mind, 3 way?
Marchand to calgary
Zib to boston
prospects/picks to Rs mostly from flames
discuss
there is now some thought he MIGHT waive to an east coast team
there is a thread about maybe Bs wanna/need to get something for Marchand
He is ufa and could extend or return to beantown
all the above in mind, 3 way?
Marchand to calgary
Zib to boston
prospects/picks to Rs mostly from flames
discuss
This thread is called Calgary prospect swap for a Center. Your proposal of us getting Marchand (an old winger) is so bad and completely disregards our needs and the purpose of this thread. It’s kinda funny how bad and irrelevant this is. But hey, Zib not waiving applies generally, am I right?
Kapanen is such a mediocre prospect lol. That’s lovely that you like his development though. He’d maybe be a top-10 prospect for us at best. A mid first and a B prospect for our top prospect is horrible.
But anyway, I don’t think our prospects (aside from Parekh) have enough value yet to be able to pull off a swap for a C prospect with potential. Mews and Brzustewicz and our winger prospects are still too unknown to have legit value and get us the type of C prospect we need. We just need to draft 3/4 C’s with our many picks this year and next and hope that one of our firsts next year is top-10.
apologies but in my defense, the thread actually reads CGY prospects for a C, it does not read prospects for a prospect C
It is not clear you do/do not want to make a measured push
so I did not disregard your position, as it was actually stated
as for Zib
I am a proponent of trending younger when possible.
We want to move on.
Where is not clear
he does have signif nmc
and how long he will apply that remains to be seen
it is thought he will consider east coast
and if so, could fit in BOS
Marchand is quality, but short term
again, apologies if that is not a fit if you have a longer term view
but the thread title was not clear
Ledge And Dairy
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Bern? Wtf is this? I get how you usually post but generally you explain your logic. Calgary wants centers, specifically 24 and under. Not only is Marchand not at all center, he is also 36.
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I stand corrected 2x.
First I skimmed OP, so I didn't pick up on it saying pivots returned must be 24 or under.
That is my bad
Now Marchand, I did not check, had a brain fart, somehow thought I remembered he had some time at pivot
just now checked and you are correct sir, he's a W only
to err is human, to forgive ....
I trust this is enuf to stir the angels of yr better nature
at least you politely enquired and did not pounce on me
Ledge And Dairy
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Nah dw about it Bern. I love reading your posts. As wild and completely unrealistic as they can get they are generally still accurate to asks in peoples original posts. This one however was just not, nbd
I mean he is looking like he is about to be the second defenseman in a year that starts with a 2 to get 100 points, on a much worse team than he was on last year. But don’t let facts and reason get in the way of your post.
Calgary has Kerins who was above point per game in the AHL and Stromgren playing at a point per game in the AHL lately, we know that success in pro leagues doesn’t make someone a premier prospect despite a fan base hoping for it with Kapanen. That prospect is not the difference between an outside the top 10 in a weaker draft and Parekh.
Ask yourself if you’d take Florida’s 1st (23rd) and Stromgren (34 points in 41 AHL games from Kapanens draft) for Hage, then realize that you’re terribly unrealistic.
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Habs Halifax
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I don't think you know Kapanen enough to provide any good context. We are not really trying to trade for Parakh so this is just about Kapanen trashing now. Habs liked what we saw in his NHL games but decided to send him back to SHL so he can play more minutes. He's a pt/game player in the SHL and on the Lehkonen track. I think Kapanen will be a good 3rd liner with an outside chance at 2nd line. He's got a good 200' game.
You will see the value Demidov has very shortly bud. Demidov in a redraft will be top 3 when we look back in a few years. Parekh? All you have is CHL production and yeah, the kid looks good but there is more unknowns and guess work. Demidov is producing against men and that has a lot of value with prospects these days.
You guys are too cranky and playing a nit picking game. Kapanen and a pick from 10-16 is not far off from Parekh. That's the debate going on and you and others keep ignoring the pick and trashing Kapanen. Kapanen added to that pick does make it close but yeah, it was a pondering thought from one fan and it wasn't that much of a serious offer. Look at you guys go now... 3 pages of Kapanen trashing. You must be proud arguing the value and trying to spread it to astronomical levels.
And yet, some of you will continue to reply and carry it forward and then get upset that I reply and think someone else is derailing the thread.
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Puljarvi scored a point per game in SHL………so not that difficult
No he didn't, if you mean Pääjärvi.
Puljujärvi was close to that in Liiga when he returned for one season before going back to Oilers.
Your proposal is a little GM career mode, no offense. Not a slight on Kapanen, I think he's a good prospect. Trading Parekh for him and the 10-16 pick doesn't make sense. You would be splitting one premium asset into two good assets, one of which will be ready two years (if not more) later than Parekh. Additionally, it introduces more risk as Parekh is the most sure fire prospect in the discussion.I don't think you know Kapanen enough to provide any good context. We are not really trying to trade for Parakh so this is just about Kapanen trashing now. Habs liked what we saw in his NHL games but decided to send him back to SHL so he can play more minutes. He's a pt/game player in the SHL and on the Lehkonen track. I think Kapanen will be a good 3rd liner with an outside chance at 2nd line. He's got a good 200' game.
You will see the value Demidov has very shortly bud. Demidov in a redraft will be top 3 when we look back in a few years. Parekh? All you have is CHL production and yeah, the kid looks good but there is more unknowns and guess work. Demidov is producing against men and that has a lot of value with prospects these days.
You guys are too cranky and playing a nit picking game. Kapanen and a pick from 10-16 is not far off from Parekh. That's the debate going on and you and others keep ignoring the pick and trashing Kapanen. Kapanen added to that pick does make it close but yeah, it was a pondering thought from one fan and it wasn't that much of a serious offer. Look at you guys go now... 3 pages of Kapanen trashing. You must be proud arguing the value and trying to spread it to astronomical levels.
And yet, some of you will continue to reply and carry it forward and then get upset that I reply and think someone else is derailing the thread.
Calgary needs quality more than quantity, as they have shown the ability to find depth later in the draft. They also want to try and accelerate things a little to match Wolf's window of prime ability. So disregarding any discussion of whether the trade would be "fair value", it's poorly concieved and doesn't really solve the problems stated by the OP (me).
P.s. Haven't checked back in for a while, was suprised that I and my newness would become a point of discussion.
Habs Halifax
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Not my proposal though. Your bouncing something ahead that I thought was over a few days ago and I don't really want to re visit it.
The only trade I am interested in making with the Flames is R Andersson but you guys are in the playoffs so doubt you move him this season. We can talk about that around draft day.
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