Proposal: Cgy Prospect Swap for Centre

[crazyfisherman]

Oh look. I could care less what fan base you are a team of.

1. OP doesn't speak for the rest of Calgary's fan base. Got it. Please contact an admin to shut this site down to prevent people for speaking out on their own looking for proposals.

2. They were not drafted top 3, but sure as hell are in re-drafts. As is Hutson. Once upon a time Cole Eiserman was compared to Auston Matthews and Cole Caufield which doesn't give him that value if you ask me.

Eiserman draws comparisons to Matthews, Caufield ahead of 2024 NHL Draft | NHL.com

16-year-old forward scored 69 goals in 62 games with USA Hockey NTDP last season

www.nhl.com

3. You are welcome to value him where you see fit and argue for whatever the hell you want. He is worth a 9th overall pick. He hasn't demonstratively displayed skills and abilities to jump anyone in his draft class yet. If you want him taken off the list in the OP......PM the OP.

To your final point. 9th overall for 11th-13th + a project third line prospect with room to grow beyond that is equal value. IF you value him higher than a 9th, than the offer would have to be upped. Don't get so worked up!

Oh LOOK! LOL

first of all the pick is 16, even if you value Kapanen as a mid 2nd rounder, 14+42 got 11 last year, so its still not enough. Distinctly remember habs fans asking 9th+25 flames 1st pick (which at the time was look to be protected because it seems like another sure fire top 10 pick)+more, but somehow a middling prospect is enough to move up 7 spots now lol.

 

[Petes2424]

Not sure Mittlestadt is Calgary’s type but we should probably keep an eye on where he ends up. Drury coming too, is a nail in Mittlestadt’s coffin.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Oh look. I could care less what fan base you are a team of.

1. OP doesn't speak for the rest of Calgary's fan base. Got it. Please contact an admin to shut this site down to prevent people for speaking out on their own looking for proposals.

2. They were not drafted top 3, but sure as hell are in re-drafts. As is Hutson. Once upon a time Cole Eiserman was compared to Auston Matthews and Cole Caufield which doesn't give him that value if you ask me.

Eiserman draws comparisons to Matthews, Caufield ahead of 2024 NHL Draft | NHL.com

16-year-old forward scored 69 goals in 62 games with USA Hockey NTDP last season

www.nhl.com

3. You are welcome to value him where you see fit and argue for whatever the hell you want. He is worth a 9th overall pick. He hasn't demonstratively displayed skills and abilities to jump anyone in his draft class yet. If you want him taken off the list in the OP......PM the OP.

To your final point. 9th overall for 11th-13th + a project third line prospect with room to grow beyond that is equal value. IF you value him higher than a 9th, than the offer would have to be upped. Don't get so worked up!

Oh LOOK! LOL

So salty, lmao

1. Ok? Again OP is new to HF. Nobody is fully untouchable but defending a shit offer is going to get you grilled.

2. Highly debatable on EK65, Stamkos still goes #1 but Doughty, Josi, Pietrangelo, and Carlson were all in that draft too. He goes top 5 in a redraft for sure.
Hughes probably goes top 3 in a redraft.
So typical of a Habs fan to say Hutson goes top 3 in his redraft based off half a season in the NHL, I guess Wolf goes top 3 in 2019 too by that logic? Good luck convincing Jersey or Utah fans that Hutson is above Nemec and Cooley.

That Eiserman article was posted in August of 2023. He hadn't even started his draft year season yet. Also it doesn't compare him to either player, it clearly says "drawing comparisons," as in the production he put up in his D-1 year is similar to both of those players when they played in their D-1 seasons. Completely outdated article with a completely different point then you are trying to argue. What is factual is that Parekh is the first defenseman in the OHL to put up over 90 points in his draft year since 1990 (Ryan Ellis came close with 89 points).

3. So you think Calgary would accept a mulligan on that pick and move Parekh for this year's 9th overall? Nonsense, this years top 10 is not remotely as deep as last years. Do you also think the Wild would trade Buium straight up for that 1st?

To my point. Zayne Parekh is not a 9th overall pick. He was drafted at 9th over all yes but as of right now he is widely considered a top 10 prospect in the entire league. If you want Parekh you have to be offering up someone just as valuable.

 

[Grinner]

Move on time. You and others grabbed on that other Habs fan (pondering though) and made it something way more than it should have been. You and others have been trashing Kapanen over and over again for like 2 or 3 pages now. Grow up

Parekh did not go 3rd. He went 9th. I'm not going to attack his game like you are with Kapanen. It would be dumb and provide little context into the purpose of this thread .

This is how you and others are acting... Parekh is now worth the 3rd OA?

And yet Demidov is some how worth a 1st overall after going 5th oa. Take that Lincoln log out of your eye

 

[bernmeister]

I earlier said zib not waiving, which applies generally
there is now some thought he MIGHT waive to an east coast team

there is a thread about maybe Bs wanna/need to get something for Marchand

He is ufa and could extend or return to beantown

all the above in mind, 3 way?

Marchand to calgary
Zib to boston
prospects/picks to Rs mostly from flames

discuss

 

[RasmusAndersson]

I earlier said zib not waiving, which applies generally
there is now some thought he MIGHT waive to an east coast team

there is a thread about maybe Bs wanna/need to get something for Marchand

He is ufa and could extend or return to beantown

all the above in mind, 3 way?

Marchand to calgary
Zib to boston
prospects/picks to Rs mostly from flames

discuss

This thread is called Calgary prospect swap for a Center. Your proposal of us getting Marchand (an old winger) is so bad and completely disregards our needs and the purpose of this thread. It’s kinda funny how bad and irrelevant this is. But hey, Zib not waiving applies generally, am I right?

 

[RasmusAndersson]

Not a mediocre prospect and we are really not trying to trade for Parekh... I guy the Flames just drafted at 9th. That was one comment from one poster pondering something and it does not reflect what most of the Habs fan base thinks. Some of you went with it way too deep and that's the comical part for me. Typical HF trade boards.

If you want to talk about Kapanen only... He's very far from a mediocre prospect and we are not really shopping him. He's pt/game in the SHL and we like his development. No, we are not offering Kapanen and a 1st (12-18 range) for a guy the Flames just drafted. It makes no sense and once again, you guys need to chill. It was one poster and not our entire fan base.

I know Parekh very well as I was looking at him in last years draft when the Habs picked 5th. He's not really the type of D man we are looking for with Hutson and Matheson on our roster. Relax, we are not trying to steal away your apparent gem.

Kapanen is such a mediocre prospect lol. That’s lovely that you like his development though. He’d maybe be a top-10 prospect for us at best. A mid first and a B prospect for our top prospect is horrible.

But anyway, I don’t think our prospects (aside from Parekh) have enough value yet to be able to pull off a swap for a C prospect with potential. Mews and Brzustewicz and our winger prospects are still too unknown to have legit value and get us the type of C prospect we need. We just need to draft 3/4 C’s with our many picks this year and next and hope that one of our firsts next year is top-10.

 

[bernmeister]

This thread is called Calgary prospect swap for a Center. Your proposal of us getting Marchand (an old winger) is so bad and completely disregards our needs and the purpose of this thread. It’s kinda funny how bad and irrelevant this is. But hey, Zib not waiving applies generally, am I right?

apologies but in my defense, the thread actually reads CGY prospects for a C, it does not read prospects for a prospect C

It is not clear you do/do not want to make a measured push

so I did not disregard your position, as it was actually stated

as for Zib
I am a proponent of trending younger when possible.
We want to move on.
Where is not clear
he does have signif nmc
and how long he will apply that remains to be seen

it is thought he will consider east coast
and if so, could fit in BOS

Marchand is quality, but short term
again, apologies if that is not a fit if you have a longer term view
but the thread title was not clear

 

[Kahvi]

apologies but in my defense, the thread actually reads CGY prospects for a C, it does not read prospects for a prospect C

It is not clear you do/do not want to make a measured push

so I did not disregard your position, as it was actually stated

as for Zib
I am a proponent of trending younger when possible.
We want to move on.
Where is not clear
he does have signif nmc
and how long he will apply that remains to be seen

it is thought he will consider east coast
and if so, could fit in BOS

Marchand is quality, but short term
again, apologies if that is not a fit if you have a longer term view
but the thread title was not clear

You can also read the first post, where that is clearly explained.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I earlier said zib not waiving, which applies generally
there is now some thought he MIGHT waive to an east coast team

there is a thread about maybe Bs wanna/need to get something for Marchand

He is ufa and could extend or return to beantown

all the above in mind, 3 way?

Marchand to calgary
Zib to boston
prospects/picks to Rs mostly from flames

discuss

Bern? Wtf is this? I get how you usually post but generally you explain your logic. Calgary wants centers, specifically 24 and under. Not only is Marchand not at all center, he is also 36.

 

[bernmeister]

Bern? Wtf is this? I get how you usually post but generally you explain your logic. Calgary wants centers, specifically 24 and under. Not only is Marchand not at all center, he is also 36.

I stand corrected 2x.
First I skimmed OP, so I didn't pick up on it saying pivots returned must be 24 or under.
That is my bad

Now Marchand, I did not check, had a brain fart, somehow thought I remembered he had some time at pivot
just now checked and you are correct sir, he's a W only

to err is human, to forgive ....
I trust this is enuf to stir the angels of yr better nature
at least you politely enquired and did not pounce on me

 

[CgyFlamesftw]

What’s with all these garbage proposals. Ya parekh isn’t being traded at all.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I stand corrected 2x.
First I skimmed OP, so I didn't pick up on it saying pivots returned must be 24 or under.
That is my bad

Now Marchand, I did not check, had a brain fart, somehow thought I remembered he had some time at pivot
just now checked and you are correct sir, he's a W only

to err is human, to forgive ....
I trust this is enuf to stir the angels of yr better nature
at least you politely enquired and did not pounce on me

Nah dw about it Bern. I love reading your posts. As wild and completely unrealistic as they can get they are generally still accurate to asks in peoples original posts. This one however was just not, nbd