CFL 2024

[Drivesaitl]

At some point don’t you have to ask yourself why football coaches (guys who are around the players and the game all the time) are preferring to play whoever else is here over Ford? I got my answer last week.

Again exactly. JJ is no idiot, as much as people would like to conclude that. As mentioned he has all the details, all the information, and is the one making the decisions. Last week was so odd as well, wasn't just the telecast talking about it all day. Ford and brother Ford were both guilty of getting distracted playing each other. It got kind of silly. Not sure if Ford has ADHD but he really seems to lose focus. When he's on and sharp he's quite something. But he can be something else too. Keep thinking he's not the best student of the game and multiple coaches have mentioned this aspect.

But we're supposed to deduce "they all hate Ford"

I'm trying to turn the corner on liking the club again and liking how its being run. its awfully hard to read through what feels like constant derision of the club. With new ownership, new coaches, some players that can finally play ball its been fun again. It takes time to build this up again after org was reduced to rubble.

 

[Drivesaitl]

CFL command center basically handed the game to Hamilton in OT BS PI call and an overturn at that to award Hamilton ball on 1yd line first down. Otherwise its a tie game. The PI overturn was BS.

Same drive on the first play BLM is late getting the ball. Clock had run right down to zero before ball was snapped. Somehow no penalty, play was allowed. All this was allowed because CFL spending a lot of time trying to make BLM and Hamilton happen.

I KNEW they were overturning that play in OT. Who didn't think that? That the CFL see's fit to overturn a call in OT to make the home team lose is its own madness. Basically everybody walks home feeling that the game was jobbed. How would paying fans feel about in the rebuilding BC market. What a f***ing sham. I don't even like BC but that was ridiculous.

Clown show control room just wants to make the fans cry. What league would continually do this? eventually the people just stay home. you can only have so many of these experiences as a fan.

 

[rboomercat90]

Was having a very meh season though. I would say the game tonight was more our poor D than him going supernova.


My only guess is that they like losing and getting fired because they made poor choices. Coaches will always try to stay employed, and that means playing the QB who they think gives them the best chance to win. Clearly the choices of starting Cornelius and MBT have been the wrong ones, one coach already paid the price and was fired, the next guy is very iffy to be back next year.

The starting quarterback has to be a leader. To be a leader he has to set the example of being the most committed and most prepared player on the team. This looks like a big part of Ford’s issue. This is why I suspect Jones and now Jackson are loathe to play him. Maybe I’m wrong though. Maybe they just want to lose and get fired. We’ll see how many more coaches Tre Ford gets fired whether it’s here or somewhere else.

I think Ford has physical skills and can be a backup. He can help the team win games coming off the bench. He just doesn’t have the qualities to be the guy to lead the team as a starter. It wouldn’t surprise me if part of the reason he didn’t play today was because he had an attitude problem all week after getting pulled in the last game. The camera has caught him in both games looking disengaged. Not the first time we’ve seen this from him either.

 

[bellagiobob]

The starting quarterback has to be a leader. To be a leader he has to set the example of being the most committed and most prepared player on the team. This looks like a big part of Ford’s issue. This is why I suspect Jones and now Jackson are loathe to play him. Maybe I’m wrong though. Maybe they just want to lose and get fired. We’ll see how many more coaches Tre Ford gets fired whether it’s here or somewhere else.

I think Ford has physical skills and can be a backup. He can help the team win games coming off the bench. He just doesn’t have the qualities to be the guy to lead the team as a starter. It wouldn’t surprise me if part of the reason he didn’t play today was because he had an attitude problem all week after getting pulled in the last game. The camera has caught him in both games looking disengaged. Not the first time we’ve seen this from him either.

Maybe he’s a problem in the room, I don’t know. His teammates seem to like him though, for the most part respond well when he starts. I’ve seen zero leadership from MBT, but he is the chosen one. JJ after tonight’s game incredulously said that MBT had a good game. If that was Ford playing, he would have ripped him a new one. Again. Anyhow, it’s not going to matter, Ford won’t be here next year to put out the fire when the next chosen one shits the bed. Funny thing is I don’t even think Ford is that great, like I said 50/50 that he becomes a good starter, just don’t like the way the team has dealt with his development and played QB’s ahead of him who have failed miserably.

 

[rboomercat90]

Maybe he’s a problem in the room, I don’t know. His teammates seem to like him though, for the most part respond well when he starts. I’ve seen zero leadership from MBT, but he is the chosen one. JJ after tonight’s game incredulously said that MBT had a good game. If that was Ford playing, he would have ripped him a new one. Again. Anyhow, it’s not going to matter, Ford won’t be here next year to put out the fire when the next chosen one shits the bed. Funny thing is I don’t even think Ford is that great, like I said 50/50 that he becomes a good starter, just don’t like the way the team has dealt with his development and played QB’s ahead of him who have failed miserably.

Yeah, it sucks. I’m not sure what the future is at quarterback for this team. I’m leaning to it being neither of these guys or maybe I’m just overreacting to last weeks game which really soured me on Ford.

Either way it’s going to be an interesting off season. I’m excited due to the ownership change that makes me hopeful for the first time in at least a decade that this team is committed to building a winning football team instead of some other kind of outside nonsense.

 

[MoontoScott]

For all the talk about replacing the QB in this game, how about replacing every single one of the f***ers on defense? No rush, couldn’t tackle a dummy, and couldn’t cover worth a shit. Get rid of all of them and start over.

The defensive line has been a problem all season.

They don't get any pressure and have been weak against the run. Olivera was running thru the line at will yesterday.

I will give some credit to Oakman though. You can see how frustrated he is out there but he usually plays a good game. He is probably the only one on the D-line who is returning next season.

 

[Stoneman89]

Again exactly. JJ is no idiot, as much as people would like to conclude that. As mentioned he has all the details, all the information, and is the one making the decisions. Last week was so odd as well, wasn't just the telecast talking about it all day. Ford and brother Ford were both guilty of getting distracted playing each other. It got kind of silly. Not sure if Ford has ADHD but he really seems to lose focus. When he's on and sharp he's quite something. But he can be something else too. Keep thinking he's not the best student of the game and multiple coaches have mentioned this aspect.

But we're supposed to deduce "they all hate Ford"

I'm trying to turn the corner on liking the club again and liking how its being run. its awfully hard to read through what feels like constant derision of the club. With new ownership, new coaches, some players that can finally play ball its been fun again. It takes time to build this up again after org was reduced to rubble.

“Gettin distracted playing each other”

Simply not true at all. I watched the entire telecast. The only one obsessing and completely distracted was Glen Suiter.

 

[bellagiobob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840001584484495507

After how many hit scoreboards from punts does this stop becoming cute and is considered a problem. I think that’s three straight games now it’s been hit.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The defensive line has been a problem all season.

They don't get any pressure and have been weak against the run. Olivera was running thru the line at will yesterday.

I will give some credit to Oakman though. You can see how frustrated he is out there but he usually plays a good game. He is probably the only one on the D-line who is returning next season.

Oliviera when healthy and feeling it runs through the whole league. He's a bear to bring down. But it was the passing arsenal that was killing us all night. At least we had some run stops. We had none when Bombers were throwing the ball. I can think of one good play made on a pass attempt. Our backfield was awful.

Team looked off and maybe feeling a bit too good about themselves in Winnipeg. Plenty of posts about how the players were enjoying the sights and food and such in Winnipeg. haha. Even some posts that they found an airport

Team was saying as well they would take the game to Winnipeg in their stadium. Even Rankin was saying that. The team and some players go away from themselves and suddenly thought they were something. The spanking we saw was emphatic, and perhaps the beat down was for some dressing room wall stuff. Elks have to learn to play their game, not talk their game. That they are even doing that is kind of offputting.

 

[DoubleEFan]

lol, just put Ford in.

I wanted Ford to go in, but maybe it’s better he didn’t. They were so disastrous that it may have made Ford look really bad. The mistake now is JJ completely clueless in his media avail saying MBT is our quarterback and that he thought he played well. The D was disastrous but it cannot be said that MBT played well. This new owner needs to get his people in place now. Earlier this week TSN was reporting that a change is imminent. We are not renewing our season tickets until someone comes in and sweeps things clean like a new broom. We are the laughing stock of the CFL and especially after this game. Someone needs to clean this mess up.

 

[MoontoScott]

I wanted Ford to go in, but maybe it’s better he didn’t. They were so disastrous that it may have made Ford look really bad. The mistake now is JJ completely clueless in his media avail saying MBT is our quarterback and that he thought he played well. The D was disastrous but it cannot be said that MBT played well. This new owner needs to get his people in place now. Earlier this week TSN was reporting that a change is imminent. We are not renewing our season tickets until someone comes in and sweeps things clean like a new broom. We are the laughing stock of the CFL and especially after this game. Someone needs to clean this mess up.

I think its safe to assume that serious change is coming.

LT didn't get to where he is today by not having an eye for the right people. When he said on the TSN telecast a few weeks ago that "we have a lot of work to do"--I know what he meant. "A lot of work to do with more talented people" was the proper translation. He made it pretty clear that he's unimpressed with what he has now.

The coaching staff, management staff and scouting staff (assuming there is one) all need a reboot.

 

[Heavy Dee]

I wanted Ford to go in, but maybe it’s better he didn’t. They were so disastrous that it may have made Ford look really bad. The mistake now is JJ completely clueless in his media avail saying MBT is our quarterback and that he thought he played well. The D was disastrous but it cannot be said that MBT played well. This new owner needs to get his people in place now. Earlier this week TSN was reporting that a change is imminent. We are not renewing our season tickets until someone comes in and sweeps things clean like a new broom. We are the laughing stock of the CFL and especially after this game. Someone needs to clean this mess up.

To me it seems like they have made the decision to move in from Ford OR Ford has told them he is definitely moving on.

For Jackson to declare MBT his QB after that debacle last night, its the only thing that makes sense.

 

[DoubleEFan]

To me it seems like they have made the decision to move in from Ford OR Ford has told them he is definitely moving on.

For Jackson to declare MBT his QB after that debacle last night, its the only thing that makes sense.

You never know. It may be why he said that.

 

[brentashton]

3 quarters of ball played between the Riders and the used to be Riders and no one can score a TD. The CFL used to be so exciting, offensively.

Junk.

 

[Gunnersaurus Rex]

3 quarters of ball played between the Riders and the used to be Riders and no one can score a TD. The CFL used to be so exciting, offensively.

Junk.

Lots of Rider fans dressed up as empty seats.

 

[brentashton]

Lots of Rider fans dressed up as empty seats.

They’re all in Pil Country trying to drink this game pretty.

Edit - although that TD drive and 2 pt convert was a nice change.

 

[bellagiobob]

To me it seems like they have made the decision to move in from Ford OR Ford has told them he is definitely moving on.

For Jackson to declare MBT his QB after that debacle last night, its the only thing that makes sense.

Yup, either Ford has told them to go F themselves, or JJ is the dumbest person on the planet by continuing to play MBT with pretty much meaningless games ahead. Heard that a president should be announced soon, which is good, but the not so good was possible extensions for Simon and JJ, which would be a monumental step backwards. Hope that part is not true.

 

[MoontoScott]

3 quarters of ball played between the Riders and the used to be Riders and no one can score a TD. The CFL used to be so exciting, offensively.

Junk.

No question that the quality has suffered badly.

2 weeks ago I watched the game at my daughter's house and she asked me "Dad, how can you watch this stuff?"

Indeed, the difference in salaries has left many players feeling that they don't want to leave even the practice rosters of the NFL.

Some people on this thread are unaware that in the 60's and part of the 70's--the 2 leagues paid comparable salaries.

 

[brentashton]

No question that the quality has suffered badly.

2 weeks ago I watched the game at my daughter's house and she asked me "Dad, how can you watch this stuff?"

Indeed, the difference in salaries has left many players feeling that they don't want to leave even the practice rosters of the NFL.

Some people on this thread are unaware that in the 60's and part of the 70's--the 2 leagues paid comparable salaries.

Yup. I’m fact in the early 60s you made more in the CFL than in the NFL. Clyde Brock left the SF FortyNiners to come to Regina all because of money.

Williams should be suspended for that. He absolutely pile drives Pimpleton head first. That’s how you break a neck. Asshat.

 

[Kyle McMahon]

Everyone has their opinions on the QB situation, and they're certainly valid, but I'm really surprised at how Ford is now being largely written off based this season, in which he's looked mostly good in limited appearances. Last week's "career killing" game was his only bad showing of the season. He's barely played due to both coaching decisions and injuries, and that's reason for concern for sure, but if we're concluding he's not likely a viable starter going forward, it's being based off a remarkably small size IMO. The guy remains to only Elks QB to post anything resembling an acceptable W-L record over his three years with the organization.

 

[Kyle McMahon]

I was ready to say this Riders win has sealed Edmonton's fate, but BC blowing that game last night has actually STILL left the door open a crack.

I know people will roll their eyes at the suggestion of the Elks going 3-0 to close the year, hard not to after last night, but doing that against a vsSSK-@CGY-vsTOR schedule isn't unfathomable. Doubt they're more than a 3-point dog in any of those games, probably slight favourites against CGY. That would leave them at 8-10...BC is 7-8 at the moment and we hold the tie-breaker against them. The Lions have vsCGY-@SSK-vsMTL to finish the year. They would need to go 2-1 (or 1-1-1 since ties are back in vogue) to stay ahead if the Elks won their last three games.

Part of me wants to see Hamilton run the table and take the crossover just for shock value. Remarkable turnaround in recent weeks in Steeltown (TSN giving Chris Jones all the credit lol).

 

[brentashton]

I was ready to say this Riders win has sealed Edmonton's fate, but BC blowing that game last night has actually STILL left the door open a crack.

I know people will roll their eyes at the suggestion of the Elks going 3-0 to close the year, hard not to after last night, but doing that against a vsSSK-@CGY-vsTOR schedule isn't unfathomable. Doubt they're more than a 3-point dog in any of those games, probably slight favourites against CGY. That would leave them at 8-10...BC is 7-8 at the moment and we hold the tie-breaker against them. The Lions have vsCGY-@SSK-vsMTL to finish the year. They would need to go 2-1 (or 1-1-1 since ties are back in vogue) to stay ahead if the Elks won their last three games.

Part of me wants to see Hamilton run the table and take the crossover just for shock value. Remarkable turnaround in recent weeks in Steeltown (TSN giving Chris Jones all the credit lol).

Has an Eastern team ever crossed over? I can’t remember it ever happening. That would be incredible. That’s said, if Sask or Edm make the playoffs, they won’t be around long.

 

[Kyle McMahon]

Has an Eastern team ever crossed over? I can’t remember it ever happening. That would be incredible. That’s said, if Sask or Edm make the playoffs, they won’t be around long.

No Eastern crossover has ever occurred.

With Ottawa hitting the skids, Hamilton surging, and Toronto plodding, it's actually in play for any of those three teams to end up making the Western playoffs. Never been a year like this in the standings that I recall.

 

[Stoneman89]

Much as I think it would be cool if the team miraculously made the playoffs, it might hurt them in the long term. We might need a couple more blowouts to totally convince the new Prez to absolutely confirm that the GM, coaches and a large portion of the players are not the right ones going forward.

 

[bellagiobob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840435711339544680