Celtics/NBA Celtics trade Grant Williams for draft picks as part of three-team deal

[CDJ]

You can say he’s not a Celtics lifer but you’re making a ton of outlandish claims, starting with the fact that he didn’t blame racism for Celtics fans on Twitter wanting to trade him

And cool he is basically saying he wants to get paid the max with that quote. The media blew it way out of proportion, like they always have with anything to do with Brown or Tatum

 

[BernieMcAvoy]

Boston will likely never be Jaylen's favorite city in the world but i feel like people are taking valid criticisms from a player who's very outspoken and trying to turn it into he hates the city and fans. When Kyrie created another Boston is racist national story because he knew he was going to be bood Jaylen pushed back and how it happens all over the country and in other nba arenas while still acknowledging the problems Boston has. Not something someone who hates the city would do when everyone else is getting their punches in, especially when he was injured and had no requirement to speak to the media but chose to.

 

[CDJ]

Boston will likely never be Jaylen's favorite city in the world but i feel like people are taking valid criticisms from a player who's very outspoken and trying to turn it into he hates the city and fans. When Kyrie created another Boston is racist national story because he knew he was going to be bood Jaylen pushed back and how it's happens in other cities and nba arenas while still acknowledging the problems Boston has. Not something someone who hates the city would do when he was injured and had no requirement to speak to the media but chose to.

Doesn’t fit the narrative tho

 

[Mione134]

You can say he’s not a Celtics lifer but you’re making a ton of outlandish claims, starting with the fact that he didn’t blame racism for Celtics fans on Twitter wanting to trade him

And cool he is basically saying he wants to get paid the max with that quote. The media blew it way out of proportion, like they always have with anything to do with Brown or Tatum

It's not outlandish when it's true. Feel free to go back to the thread from March and find other articles. The ones I provided are just one of the many. It's all there for ya. He refused to clarify anything he has said. Cant say one thing and never tell us why. Sure, he defended Boston from Kyrie during the playoffs, but then links up with him and Kanye after. Then changes his tune when theres rumors about him being traded for Durant. Truth is truth. He's the one who brought up everything because at the time Kyrie and Kanye were happening. Guilt by association? I would of believed it, had Jaylen not shown support for Kyrie and the hateful group that he claimed he didn't know which ofc he did. Jaylen isn't dumb. He knows what game he's playing. Can't fake ignorance when everyone knows about it. I love ya @CDJ So no biggie on this little disagreement.

But the news cycle moves on. And thus so do we. I just no longer like the guy like that. He's talented when he wants to be. He got what he wanted. 2nd team all- nba. He'll get his supermax deal. And he'll be gone in 1-2 years. It is what it is. Hopefully we can get a championship during that time.

Hate him or love him, Marcus ALWAYS spoke. He provided context and background to everything. Despite things happening to him, he still had deep, true love for the city. Never questioned his heart. The shit they say to him on twitter is worse than Jaylen. He takes it on the chin and doesn't let it bother him (Not that its okay. But advocating for a player to be traded or saying he sucks is apart of being an athlete) ill be missing Smart and so will the C's. Our defense ain't shit right now. That's how this conversation started.

Marcus loved Boston. Jaylen don't. Tatum is just happy to get his money and pad his stats. I would say Tatum is a lukewarm noodle in regards to being here. Just okay being a Celtic. Now that Smart is gone, both of those guys need to grow up and step into a leadership position. Which one will take the reigns. I'm very, very curious to see how it plays out. But one of them has to. Maybe that's Brad's big thing. Forcing one of them to step up.

 

[EverettMike]

Boston will likely never be Jaylen's favorite city in the world but i feel like people are taking valid criticisms from a player who's very outspoken and trying to turn it into he hates the city and fans. When Kyrie created another Boston is racist national story because he knew he was going to be bood Jaylen pushed back and how it happens all over the country and in other nba arenas while still acknowledging the problems Boston has. Not something someone who hates the city would do when everyone else is getting their punches in, especially when he was injured and had no requirement to speak to the media but chose to.

Yes, but then this year Jaylen gave two of the worst interviews I've ever seen a current Boston athlete give. Why are we sugar coating it now? Want just us on this board who found it troubling. It was a story in the national NBA media that Jeff to most people thinking he doesn't like Boston.

And that's without even giving into his bizarre defense of Kanye and Kyrie, the latter of whom he kept defending.

Doesn’t fit the narrative tho

Jaylen singlehandedly created the narrative. Go back and read those interviews. They're so so bad.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Doesn’t fit the narrative tho

tHE nArrATiVe

Yes, but then this year Jaylen gave two of the worst interviews I've ever seen a current Boston athlete give. Why are we sugar coating it now? Want just us on this board who found it troubling. It was a story in the national NBA media that Jeff to most people thinking he doesn't like Boston.

And that's without even giving into his bizarre defense of Kanye and Kyrie, the latter of whom he kept defending.



Jaylen singlehandedly created the narrative. Go back and read those interviews. They're so so bad.

Some people just want to completely ignore the facts involved. These are the facts.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Idc about feelsies or trying to put myself in the brain of people I don’t know. I care about ability

Unless of course the subject in question is not playing for the ole hometown team. The same people defending Jaylen Brown would have no problem turning around and bashing Kyrie. In case you haven't noticed, their world views are aligned.

 

[Johnnyduke]

And cool he is basically saying he wants to get paid the max with that quote. The media blew it way out of proportion, like they always have with anything to do with Brown or Tatum

I mean this is something. When in doubt blame the media. Keep pretending like the only thing Jaylen has been pining for is a max deal from Boston. There's been plenty of material that he put out there himself. Just because the media covered it doesn't mean it was then exaggerated. His comments, who he has aligned himself with, this hasn't been solely about money. Not even close.

 

[CDJ]

Yes, but then this year Jaylen gave two of the worst interviews I've ever seen a current Boston athlete give. Why are we sugar coating it now? Want just us on this board who found it troubling. It was a story in the national NBA media that Jeff to most people thinking he doesn't like Boston.

And that's without even giving into his bizarre defense of Kanye and Kyrie, the latter of whom he kept defending.



Jaylen singlehandedly created the narrative. Go back and read those interviews. They're so so bad.

They’re only bad if you want them to be bad. If you look at them under the lens of a guy with a contract coming up they come across as a guy who wants the org to supermax him.


And if he truly hated the city like you and Mione believe then he would not have defended the city against Kyrie. And he won’t sign an extension.

My only issue with Jaylen is the Kanye shit

 

[Johnnyduke]

I'd let Jaylen's BS slide if he helps lead them to a title instead of puking on his shoes. While he aligns himself with Kyrie he's not Kyrie. Kyrie is genuinely a very bad person.

 

[N o o d l e s]

Jaylen Brown not a lifer? Where do I sign?

 

[CDJ]

I’m not even against trading Jaylen, I just think some of these claims are more what people want to believe rather than what is actually reality (he neither hates nor loves being in Boston, it’s a city where he works). I don’t think he despises the fan base. He’s done plenty of work in the Boston community himself. Recently I know he rebuilt and renovated a basketball park in Dorchester so the kids had something nice to play on

 

[Johnnyduke]

Doing work in the community doesn't mean he likes it here. He would do community work wherever he plays. It's ok to say the evidence suggests he isn't thrilled with Boston. That's fine of course. I don't need everybody to love this place. I just get tired of the Boston stereotype that is outdated at least in comparison to other cities. I think Jaylen has fed into that.

 

[KrejciMVP]

after watching Brown get schooled by a bunch of undrafted heat players, Im not for that big contract

 

[EverettMike]

They’re only bad if you want them to be bad. If you look at them under the lens of a guy with a contract coming up they come across as a guy who wants the org to supermax him.


And if he truly hated the city like you and Mione believe then he would not have defended the city against Kyrie. And he won’t sign an extension.

My only issue with Jaylen is the Kanye shit

You're in the minority on this one. Most people thought those were really bad and pointed to his clear desire to leave.

Being eligible for the super max changed that for now, because at the end the money matters more than how much he hates Boston. (I respect that.)

 

[CDJ]

You're in the minority on this one. Most people thought those were really bad and pointed to his clear desire to leave.

Being eligible for the super max changed that for now, because at the end the money matters more than how much he hates Boston. (I respect that.)

He can make a lot of money anywhere if he truly despised being here.

I think he dislikes media more than he dislikes Boston.

 

[EverettMike]

He can make a lot of money anywhere if he truly despised being here.

I think he dislikes media more than he dislikes Boston.

Just to show we're not building a narrative or whatever, Perkins and Pierce both thought Jaylen wanted/wants out.

Celtics Champion Feels Jaylen Brown 'Wants Out Of Boston'

Ex-Celtics center Kendrick Perkins has been very vocal about his former club, and now he's focused on Jaylen Brown.

nesn.com

Paul Pierce believes Jaylen Brown's recent comments might be him signaling he wants to be 'the guy' for a team

"We know he’s a premier player in this league," Paul Pierce said of Jaylen Brown. Read more on Boston.com.

www.boston.com

That doesn't make them right anymore than me or you, but it shows that lots of people felt that way, including former players who won a title here.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Ive never been a brown fan. Actually was hoping they would trade him.

 

[Mione134]

Just to show we're not building a narrative or whatever, Perkins and Pierce both thought Jaylen wanted/wants out.

Celtics Champion Feels Jaylen Brown 'Wants Out Of Boston'

Ex-Celtics center Kendrick Perkins has been very vocal about his former club, and now he's focused on Jaylen Brown.

nesn.com

Paul Pierce believes Jaylen Brown's recent comments might be him signaling he wants to be 'the guy' for a team

"We know he’s a premier player in this league," Paul Pierce said of Jaylen Brown. Read more on Boston.com.

www.boston.com

That doesn't make them right anymore than me or you, but it shows that lots of people felt that way, including former players who won a title here.

I give him 1 or 2 years before he's gone and that's being generous.

 

[EverettMike]

For the record, prior to this season Jaylen Brown was the Boston athlete I respected the most. f***ing loved that guy before the things he said (or didn't) this year, and the not wanting to be here stuff is less than one recent of why.

 

[LSCII]

For the record, prior to this season Jaylen Brown was the Boston athlete I respected the most. f***ing loved that guy before the things he said (or didn't) this year, and the not wanting to be here stuff is less than one recent of why.

Why would he want to be here when the team, media, and fans have constantly been trying to move him out of town for years? Loyalty is a two way street and these players hear everything said. The Durant rumors all last off season could have easily been put to rest by the team making a statement that they're not moving Brown, but they didn't. For months.

 

[Mione134]

Why would he want to be here when the team, media, and fans have constantly been trying to move him out of town for years? Loyalty is a two way street and these players hear everything said. The Durant rumors all last off season could have easily been put to rest by the team making a statement that they're not moving Brown, but they didn't. For months.

Every single Celtics player has been subjected to trade rumors over the years. Paul Pierce wasn't sulking. KG wasnt sulking. Rondo.

It's part of the business. He knows that. He's not dumb.

 

[CDJ]

Every single Celtics player has been subjected to trade rumors over the years. Paul Pierce wasn't sulking. KG wasnt sulking. Rondo.

It's part of the business. He knows that. He's not dumb.

Paul Pierce pushed to be traded to Dallas. Rondo is King Sulk. KG was never involved in trade rumors.

 

[EverettMike]

Why would he want to be here when the team, media, and fans have constantly been trying to move him out of town for years? Loyalty is a two way street and these players hear everything said. The Durant rumors all last off season could have easily been put to rest by the team making a statement that they're not moving Brown, but they didn't. For months.

I understand not commenting on rumors that clearly came from another team. If you deny these what happens when you don't deny the next five?

Should have communicated better with him privately, though.

But f*** that noise. For one it's professional sports. Grow up. Second, they could have moved him in big deals for huge names/all NBA guys 10 times by now and never did. Actions (or in this case non actions) speak louder than words.

 

[lextune]

He can make a lot of money anywhere if he truly despised being here.

I think he dislikes media more than he dislikes Boston.

He can "make a lot", that's true...

But Boston can pay him about 80 million more than any other team.

80 million.

He definitely dislikes Boston, he has made that quite clear, but I doubt it's 80 million dollars worth of hate.