Confirmed with Link: CBJ sign Erik Gudbranson (D) 4 years 4 million AAV

[BB88]

Look, I LOVE that we signed Gaudreau, but that contract is going to be a much bigger problem in the future than Gundbranson.

How many years before 9.75 is regular top6 money?
3 or 4?

There’s already far inferior players in the 7-9M range.
& in 2-3 years time we’ll be watching Marner& Matthews getting millions more than what Gaudreau is making

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

I apologize, Jarmo. It appears that you were playing 4D chess when I thought you were playing checkers. My bad lol.

 

[DarkandStormy]

U sure?

Yes.

Saying ERIK GUDBRANSON was your "NUMBER ONE" target is borderline fireable by itself.

Still unclear if it was a pre-requisite to signing Gaudreau. Sounds like Gaudreau reached out to CBJ, which is embarrassing for Jarmo & Co. He already said Gudbranson was their #1, so kind of awkward today when he has to say..."here's our #2 target...Johnny Gaudreau!"

Seems like they were unprepared for the possibility Gaudreau could come here, massively overpaid a borderline NHLer with big term, and now are cap screwed if they want to keep Laine.

 

[Monk]

Yes.

Saying ERIK GUDBRANSON was your "NUMBER ONE" target is borderline fireable by itself.

Still unclear if it was a pre-requisite to signing Gaudreau. Sounds like Gaudreau reached out to CBJ, which is embarrassing for Jarmo & Co. He already said Gudbranson was their #1, so kind of awkward today when he has to say..."here's our #2 target...Johnny Gaudreau!"

Seems like they were unprepared for the possibility Gaudreau could come here, massively overpaid a borderline NHLer with big term, and now are cap screwed if they want to keep Laine.

Nah. Twitter quotes n shit, really nothing to see here. Maybe he meant #1 D target. Really don't see the cap as being a problem either.

"The Blue Jackets had Gaudreau at the top of their wish list, and they extended an offer shortly after the window opened at noon Eastern."

and on the cap:

“We thought about it long and hard,” Kekalainen said. “We’re confident we can make it all work. This doesn’t change our position on Laine at all. We’re going to approach (negotiations with Laine) like it’s a work in progress, but we have plans to keep ’em both.”

Johnny Gaudreau stunned the NHL, and he's 'over the moon' to play for the Blue Jackets

"It kind of came out of the blue," GM Jarmo Kekalainen said of the blockbuster free-agent signing.

theathletic.com

 

[Viqsi]

I love all you people even though I think most of you are nincompoops. I love the Gudbranson deal with or without Johnny Hockey. Big, mean, and thump! That's exactly what we needed.

I like the acquisition. I'm not a big fan of the contract that was apparently necessary to get him.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Nah. Twitter quotes n shit, really nothing to see here. Maybe he meant #1 D target. Really don't see the cap as being a problem either.

"The Blue Jackets had Gaudreau at the top of their wish list, and they extended an offer shortly after the window opened at noon Eastern."

and on the cap:

“We thought about it long and hard,” Kekalainen said. “We’re confident we can make it all work. This doesn’t change our position on Laine at all. We’re going to approach (negotiations with Laine) like it’s a work in progress, but we have plans to keep ’em both.”

Johnny Gaudreau stunned the NHL, and he's 'over the moon' to play for the Blue Jackets

"It kind of came out of the blue," GM Jarmo Kekalainen said of the blockbuster free-agent signing.

theathletic.com

Sounds like it was a courtesy offer / bid to drive up the price for NJ/NY.

Gaudreau accepted and now Jarmo is cap screwed because he wasted $4m on Gudbranson.

 

[Monk]

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Sounds like it was a courtesy offer / bid to drive up the price for NJ/NY.

Gaudreau accepted and now Jarmo is cap screwed because he wasted $4m on Gudbranson.

Yeah, real embarrassing for Jarmo that they landed the top UFA and clearly have buy-in from ownership to spend to the cap. You really think Jarmo can't figure out his little cap dilemma? Massive eyeroll.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Yeah, real embarrassing for Jarmo that they landed the top UFA and clearly have buy-in from ownership to spend to the cap. You really think Jarmo can't figure out his little cap dilemma? Massive eyeroll.

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

 

[Youngguns1380]

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

Okay - I wasn't happy about Kuraly either but his on ice performance merited that money last year. If he keeps performing that contract looks good. So I can't argue against the signing Kuraly.

If the price to sign Gaudreau was Gudbranson - okay but don't like the monies or the term.

Will Jarmo figure it out - yes but it means most likely moving a very loyal soldier in Nyquist - that is the issue for me

 

[Monk]

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

Columbus sucks and Jarmo knows it.
He never would have signed Gudbranson if he thought Gaudreau would actually want to come to an S-hole like Columbus.
Jarmo's a moron who can't figure out how to shed roughly $4 mil off the roster.

Carry on. I'm just gonna enjoy this for now, because the Jackets got better and I'm excited for the coming years.

 

[ViD]

Columbus sucks and Jarmo knows it.
He never would have signed Gudbranson if he thought Gaudreau would actually want to come to an S-hole like Columbus.
Jarmo's a moron who can't figure out how to shed roughly $4 mil off the roster.

Carry on. I'm just gonna enjoy this for now, because the Jackets got better and I'm excited for the coming years.

Whoa

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

At this point we’re fairly set with our prospect pool so we are safe to trade away picks with players to shed the cap space

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

If he is the reason Johnny Hockey signed in CBJ, is this contract worth it?

 

[CBJ goalie]

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

How about Jarmo is just telling the truth and being realistic?

You know he's targeted other high end players - so give him kudos for trying.
Just because he didn't target Gaudreau doesn't mean he wasn't on their radar either......

Can't you just be happy and accept a high caliber player chose Columbus this time?

And there's no mess either - wait until the season starts before declaring this.

 

[Viqsi]

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

I didn't have "D&S continues to whine about Kekalainen depsite the Gaudreau signing" in the betting pool this morning, but I really should've.

Come on, hon. You're reaching like crazy. This has all the hallmarks of someone having seen the Gudbranson signing, thinking "FINALLY, this FINALLY can prove to others what I've known about this fool ALL ALONG" and then upon that being massively undercut by the Gaudreau signing desperately trying to preserve that moment of anticipated triumph by flailing about going "NO NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T COUNT HE STILL SUCKS".

Give it up for once. No, the Gudbranson contract is not a good one. But, like all those other mistakes Kekalainen has made that you've fixated on and ranted about for so long, it is properly massively overshadowed by what he's gotten so very very right.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

If he is the reason Johnny Hockey signed in CBJ, is this contract worth it?

I've thought about this and my answer is yes.

 

[AndBoomGoesTheCannon]

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

I think the surprise is that we are (were?) a few years away from contending which typically deters star players.

 

[OldGoaltender]

The fact that he said out loud they were surprised Gaudreau wanted to come here reinforces the point that even they don't believe top FAs want to come here.

He is cap screwed right now because he gave Kuraly 2x AAV than a 4th line center is worth and he gave Gudbranson 2x as much AAV as he's worth.

Maybe he can manage it, maybe he can't. But this is a mess of his own making.

I get the screen name, though you might think of switching it to buzzkill.

 

[metalan2]

SO Gaudreau essentially told Columbus they had to give Gudbranson $4m per right?

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

SO Gaudreau essentially told Columbus they had to give Gudbranson $4m per right?

listen, I’m not gonna sweat this number too bad. This is the same team who is paying Mike Commodore the same salary like 10 years ago

 

[Sdrawkcab321]

SO Gaudreau essentially told Columbus they had to give Gudbranson $4m per right?

Reminds me of when the Brooklyn nets had to give deandre Jordan 40M in order to sign KD and kyrie.

 

[JacketFanInFL]

What time is the Gudbranson press conference?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

What time is the Gudbranson press conference?

Yesterday

 

[DarkandStormy]

I didn't have "D&S continues to whine about Kekalainen depsite the Gaudreau signing" in the betting pool this morning, but I really should've.

Come on, hon. You're reaching like crazy. This has all the hallmarks of someone having seen the Gudbranson signing, thinking "FINALLY, this FINALLY can prove to others what I've known about this fool ALL ALONG" and then upon that being massively undercut by the Gaudreau signing desperately trying to preserve that moment of anticipated triumph by flailing about going "NO NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T COUNT HE STILL SUCKS".

Give it up for once. No, the Gudbranson contract is not a good one. But, like all those other mistakes Kekalainen has made that you've fixated on and ranted about for so long, it is properly massively overshadowed by what he's gotten so very very right.

The Gaudreau signing was great. It sounds like it had almost nothing to do with what Jarmo did.

It doesn't excuse the fact that we're now in cap hell (at least, if we want to keep Laine) precisely because Jarmo overpaid other free agents. Mismanaging your cap does screw you over at some point. That point is now.

It's possible that he wiggles his way out of it (LTIR or trading a veteran forward), but every team in the league can pull up CapFriendly and see we have no leverage.

I'm definitely more hopeful about the next 2-3 years than I was 24 hours ago. But Jarmo could have batted 1.000 yesterday simply by not signing Gudbranson (or even signing him to ~1/2 the cap hit he gave him).

 

[thebus88]

Not really completely a fan of how Jarmo has built the team currently, but, it’s fascinating how anybody could have a problem with Jarmo or the teams cap situation AFTER signing Gaudreau.

There is NO WAY that signing Gudbranson DIDN’T have a positive impact on signing Gaudreau. I’d put money that Gudbranson signing here had a much bigger impact on Gaudreau than Laine’s future with the team. Ridiculous how upset people were over his signing (even to start) as he is the EXACT type of player the team needed and JUST HOW BAD they have been on D. To trot out the same exact defense we had last year would have been the ACTUAL “fireable offense”.

It’s MUCH better to be in “cap hell” than it is being in “standings hell”. To take it a step further, what does that term actually mean, up against the cap? Let’s see a list of good/playoff teams that are not in “cap hell”.

Without the signing of Gaudreau the team wouldn’t be in this “cap hell”. Other than a big tough defensive guy, all the team “needed” or should have been looking to add was a TRUE high level/elite player, preferably a center or defenseman.

However, and who really cares WHAT the reason is at this point, when an opportunity or EXTREME interest exists from a guy like that, as Jarmo has said, you make the move. IF ANYTHING, why isn’t Jarmo getting credit for leaving the team with flexibility to make the Gaudreau move unexpectedly.

The team is better with Gaudreau than they would be with anybody else, the wings were ALREADY loaded up before, and quite frankly it’s not the end of the world if we lose any other wingers at this point.

That said, I think some people are still brushing off the fact that we are now EVEN MORE “winger heavy”, and still lacking at other positions or certain roles. Regarding trade value and future, “cap hell”, maybe Nyquist isn’t the easy answer to move, it’s the higher paid winger, with MUCH higher trade value, that will be in the NHL much longer.

 

[BB88]

& it was after Gubranson signing that Gaudreu’s agent called Columbus back?

All the little things help.

& everyone calls Yzerman the man here and he just gave Chiarot an even more expensive contract.
Manson went for similar money by the defending Champs.

These guys whether we like it or not are highly valued by Gm’s