Line Combos: CBJ Roster Discussion/Line Combos/Injury Report

[Monk]

Wait...are you suggesting my post was "dickish"? Wow. The main part of my post was really asking if anyone had more detail on the specifics of Marchy's jaw injury since it was clearly different from Boone's based on the quick turn-around. But hey...I guess it's your prerogative to interpret someone's post anyway you want. Figured you'd seen enough of my posts on here to know that's not my style but...whatever.

I think DSL was saying he used your post as a springboard to be snarky about my post, not that your post was dickish. I enjoy an ever-so-slight undercurrent of dickishness, especially from DSL.

 

[Doggy]

I think DSL was saying he used your post as a springboard to be snarky about my post, not that your post was dickish. I enjoy an ever-so-slight undercurrent of dickishness, especially from DSL.

Ah, well I guess my reading comprehension skillz (I felt like I needed the "z" there) were a bit lacking on DSL's post.

 

[AndBoomGoesTheCannon]

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Marchy did not break his jaw, did not need it wired shut like Boone last season. Do we know what the injury to the jaw was that allows him to come back so fast wearing a bubble? Just wondering how vulnerable he is to re-injuring the jaw.

He did break his jaw, but did not need it wired shut. He had plates/screws inserted.

Seems quick to return to me. Maybe there is no risk of worsening, but it has to be painful every hit you take.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Wait...are you suggesting my post was "dickish"? Wow. The main part of my post was really asking if anyone had more detail on the specifics of Marchy's jaw injury since it was clearly different from Boone's based on the quick turn-around. But hey...I guess it's your prerogative to interpret someone's post anyway you want. Figured you'd seen enough of my posts on here to know that's not my style but...whatever.

Nope. I was being dickish. On purpose. To be a dick. At Monk's expense.

 

[CBJx614]

Is that JVR at the end? He just seems like a good genuine "dad" figure in the locker room, even all the small little mannerisms. He's also the only one who it on

 

[majormajor]

What's better,

JVR - LDBB - KJ

or

Jenner - Sillinger - KJ

So far you'd be getting it right if you bet on whatever line doesn't have Sillinger on it. But I'll see how much Boone helps. JVR has been on absolute fire too so this might not be the time to slide him down.

Not exclusively related to Chinakhov, it feels increasingly like this new DW regime very much believes players should heal up fully and not rush back to playing, especially if they might underperform or risk further damage... I like that. Maybe that goes out the window a lil bit come POs but, I like it. Is this a change from past years? I dunno, it feels like it.

I don't know why you would say that just as Marchenko is suiting up a few weeks after surgery to repair a broken jaw. This is a special season and the team is in the playoff hunt for the first time in ages. I can see some guys taking risks to get back on the ice. We've got the warm glow of a new regime, I doubt there is much of a difference between JD/Jarmo and Wads on when players should come back from injury.

 

[Xoggz22]

To respond to the Chinakhov posts... I believe it was on a Bobby Mac podcast, but he indicated the Chinny back issue is not structural, but they can't seem to figure out why they can't get him relief. I took that to mean either an alignment issue or something binding up the muscles. I so much want to ask if he's had a multi week regimen with a chiropractor and who is doing his massage therapy. I have two great ones that have helped 40 years of high level soccer injuries putting my spine back in alignment and deep tissue muscle therapy. I'm sure they've at least looked at this but if not structural, there has to be an alignment issue. At least, I would think so.

 

[KJ Dangler]

What's better,

JVR - LDBB - KJ

or

Jenner - Sillinger - KJ

So far you'd be getting it right if you bet on whatever line doesn't have Sillinger on it. But I'll see how much Boone helps. JVR has been on absolute fire too so this might not be the time to slide him down.



I don't know why you would say that just as Marchenko is suiting up a few weeks after surgery to repair a broken jaw. This is a special season and the team is in the playoff hunt for the first time in ages. I can see some guys taking risks to get back on the ice. We've got the warm glow of a new regime, I doubt there is much of a difference between JD/Jarmo and Wads on when players should come back from injury.

I’d rather have Sillinger with KJ and Boone myself . LDBB is becoming less and less effective as the games have went on , which is expected as he’s playing up in the lineup as a very young center , with tough matchups .

 

[stevo61]

Put Jenner right back into at center and role JVR-Jenner-KJ

 

[majormajor]

I’d rather have Sillinger with KJ and Boone myself . LDBB is becoming less and less effective as the games have went on , which is expected as he’s playing up in the lineup as a very young center , with tough matchups .

Put Jenner right back into at center and role JVR-Jenner-KJ

Yeah this is more of what I'm getting at - LDBB will need more time to develop but the real obvious play is JVR - Jenner - KJ.

Jenner is a better center than Sillinger, and JVR is a better winger (right now) than probably any of them, and has clicked well so far playing opposite of KJ.

 

[Viqsi]

Wait...are you suggesting my post was "dickish"? Wow. The main part of my post was really asking if anyone had more detail on the specifics of Marchy's jaw injury since it was clearly different from Boone's based on the quick turn-around. But hey...I guess it's your prerogative to interpret someone's post anyway you want. Figured you'd seen enough of my posts on here to know that's not my style but...whatever.

Here I would have figured we've seen enough of DSL's posts on here to know that snarkiness and referring to himself as the dick is very much his style.

Around here we rule by snark and self-deprecating humor.

 

[MoeBartoli]

The ongoing overvaluing of Sillinger’s impact continues to frustrate me and piss me off. He shouldn’t be on any line with KJ. On the other hand JVR is producing quote effectively with KJ.

Evason has been great but I just don’t get his thinking on this.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

The ongoing overvaluing of Sillinger’s impact continues to frustrate me and piss me off. He shouldn’t be on any line with KJ. On the other hand JVR is producing quote effectively with KJ.

Evason has been great but I just don’t get his thinking on this.

I don't think it's unique to Evason. I seem to recall Vincent doing the same thing. Maybe there is a curse on the CBJ Head Coach job so that the first thought in their minds every morning is "this is the day Sillinger and Johnson will work together on a line, I just know it."

 

[majormajor]

I don't think it's unique to Evason. I seem to recall Vincent doing the same thing. Maybe there is a curse on the CBJ Head Coach job so that the first thought in their minds every morning is "this is the day Sillinger and Johnson will work together on a line, I just know it."

It's actually the third coach now (and second GM) where we've had the same complaints - though earlier it was that Cole wasn't yet NHL caliber and now the complaint is that he's a drag on the skill guys. An improvement but still frustrating.

It does seem to permeate the org. I'm sure coaches all know the stats and how much we get outchanced and outscored by with Cole out there, and the effect that he's had on his linemates. But yes it could be that they keep thinking he's about to pop, some optimism that we on HF generally don't share.

 

[koteka]

But yes it could be that they keep thinking he's about to pop, some optimism that we on HF generally don't share.

He is 21. There are only 11 people from his draft class who have at least 40 points. Only 19 people from his draft class have at least 20 points. Only 21 people have played 50 NHL games. I still have some optimism for Sillinger and some other people in that draft class that I have seen people write off — I am not writing off McTavish or Owen Power either.

 

[KJ Dangler]

He is 21. There are only 11 people from his draft class who have at least 40 points. Only 19 people from his draft class have at least 20 points. Only 21 people have played 50 NHL games. I still have some optimism for Sillinger and some other people in that draft class that I have seen people write off — I am not writing off McTavish or Owen Power either.

Not to mention Jenner hasn’t played in 10 months .. Same conversations were being had with Fantilli .. that narrative sure has died … I get the sense Waddell and Evason like to keep their young centers at center … Based on what I’ve seen… Waddell and Evason sure know how to develop young talent , so let’s see how it plays out .

 

[stevo61]

Not to mention Jenner hasn’t played in 10 months .. Same conversations were being had with Fantilli .. that narrative sure has died … I get the sense Waddell and Evason like to keep their young centers at center … Based on what I’ve seen… Waddell and Evason sure know how to develop young talent , so let’s see how it plays out .

He can develop in Cleveland. At this point of the season the goal is playing meaningful hockey at the end of the season more than development. A guy like Jenner being out and a kid missing extended time are not the same thing. Nothing will be a surprise to Jenner, he knows exactly what he needs to do and where he needs to be

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Waddell’s desire to add a forward became more pronounced when center Sean Monahan went down on Jan. 7 with a sprained wrist, an injury that ultimately required surgery. He could return before the end of March, but it’s unclear how limited he’d be — on faceoffs, especially — with a surgically repaired wrist.

Further, the Blue Jackets have been frustrated by the lengthy absence of winger Yegor Chinakhov, who has a lower-back injury that seems to tighten whenever he resumes skating. Chinakhov hasn’t played since Nov. 27, and he wasn’t on the ice Wednesday when the Jackets returned to action.

Chinakhov has seen multiple doctors, Waddell told The Athletic, including a trip to New York City earlier this month. Repeatedly, Chinakhov and the Blue Jackets have been told he doesn’t require surgery, but there’s no timetable on his return.

One other significant player — veteran defenseman Erik Gudbranson — is likely to resume skating in the near future, and could be ready for a return in mid- to late March.

 

[rockymtnoyster]

Who do you consider to have more upside, KJ or Chinakov?

Asking as I have both in a fantasy league, but Chinakovs been injured all year!

 

[stevo61]

Who do you consider to have more upside, KJ or Chinakov?

Asking as I have both in a fantasy league, but Chinakovs been injured all year!

KJ. Chinakhov has more goal scoring potential but it means nothing if you aren't on the ice

 

[KJ Dangler]

He can develop in Cleveland. At this point of the season the goal is playing meaningful hockey at the end of the season more than development. A guy like Jenner being out and a kid missing extended time are not the same thing. Nothing will be a surprise to Jenner, he knows exactly what he needs to do and where he needs to be

You seem to be missing the part that people don’t miss 10 mos of playing games .. and be fully up to speed , with conditioning , their hands , etc ..

 

[CBJ goalie]

Maybe, just maybe, the guys that work in the NHL and have years of coaching and playing experience are right - the fans are wrong about Sillinger.

 

[stevo61]

You seem to be missing the part that people don’t miss 10 mos of playing games .. and be fully up to speed , with conditioning , their hands , etc ..

But yet I'd still trust a veteran like Jenner to figure it out significantly faster than a kid would. It won't be 100% Jenner but he won't be a scrub trying to find his way

 

[KJ Dangler]

But yet I'd still trust a veteran like Jenner to figure it out significantly faster than a kid would. It won't be 100% Jenner but he won't be a scrub trying to find his way

What’s there to figure out exactly ? The front office believes in playing centers as centers .. Sillinger like Fantilli earlier in the year hasn’t had the best line mates all season and should definitely be ahead of Dell Bell at this point . Evason and Waddell see Boone and his size as a wing .. Could it change as the season progresses sure… However we heard the same comments about Fantilli all year , and turns out Evason and Waddell knew what they were doing . Porty said recently the front office is thrilled were Sillinger is in his development . Sillinger has 27 points in 51 games .. Boone last yr had 35 points in 58 games ..

 

[Xoggz22]

My obligatory "I don't get the Sillinger dissatisfaction" post... I'm wondering if maybe the coaches see more in Sillinger than you all do. I just don't see the pain he inflicts on some of you in his game. Just don't. As I understand it the job of a coach is to put the best players in the best position to generate team success (and player development). Oddly, the consistent drum banging in here is that others on the CBJ are better, yet somehow they don't seem to play over Sillinger. Is there really a conspiracy that this guy is not a good player but somehow has power over the coaches?

I respect your opinions, but simply don't agree and it appears the coaches and anyone following the team (beat writers, announcers, other team's staff) don't either. You can keep wishing, but all points to this not going any differently unless a significant change comes along. Now that said, with Boone coming back it will be interesting to see if he slots in at C or W. That may make some of you happy - for a minute anyway