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[VT]

Gambrell?

13 forward

 

[Crede777]

I’m thinking he will be in the starting line-up for the first home game where the coaches have the last change and can control the match-up.

Maybe but only if it doesn't eat into his 'learning to skate backwards and gap maintenance' training time.

 

[Viqsi]

13 forward

14th forward. We have the starting 12 and then the 14th and 15th forwards, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Xoggz22]

Jiricek scratched again

He's not going to get his chance until some significant mistakes are made or the team hits a longer term rough patch, in my opinion. I don't see a reason to play him right now. He's not one of the top 6 and should be in Cleveland. I wonder if he could be dealt to Calgary for Rasmus Andersson as part of a deal to get a true #1RHD. Can sign him to an extension next year and he's only 27. Would fit the core and fills a big time need.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

He's not going to get his chance until some significant mistakes are made or the team hits a longer term rough patch, in my opinion. I don't see a reason to play him right now. He's not one of the top 6 and should be in Cleveland. I wonder if he could be dealt to Calgary for Rasmus Andersson as part of a deal to get a true #1RHD. Can sign him to an extension next year and he's only 27. Would fit the core and fills a big time need.

I've wondered about that particular scenario too. It seems pointless for him to just be on the sidelines. Maybe they are simply demonstrating what the alternative to playing in Cleveland is right now. Or he's improving his skating and strength, like he should have spent the off-season doing.

 

[majormajor]

Or he's improving his skating and strength, like he should have spent the off-season doing.

That's where 90% of the improvement has to come from.

The mistakes we're seeing Jiricek make are not just a collection of brainfarts that experience alone will fix. It comes from the fundamentals. He's trying to make plays without the physical tools to execute them.

I still prefer an AHL assignment for him but if he's with the NHL team then a training schedule for him is much better than NHL games, which would just continue to depress his confidence. I hope they have him in skating training and lifting everyday.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

That's where 90% of the improvement has to come from.

The mistakes we're seeing Jiricek make are not just a collection of brainfarts that experience alone will fix. It comes from the fundamentals. He's trying to make plays without the physical tools to execute them.

I still prefer an AHL assignment for him but if he's with the NHL team then a training schedule for him is much better than NHL games, which would just continue to depress his confidence. I hope they have him in skating training and lifting everyday.

Kent Johnson has just demonstrated what a difference it can make. I do hope Jiricek pays attention.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Or he's improving his skating and strength, like he should have spent the off-season doing.

Kent Johnson has just demonstrated what a difference it can make. I do hope Jiricek pays attention.

where is this idea coming from that jiricek didn't spend the offseason working on skating and strength? clearly that's what they told him to work on. he looked quicker to me in the preseason, but still rough around the edges.

it's not stuff that gets fixed overnight. even if he worked on it all offseason, or does extra work with the coaches, it's still a long process. it took kent johnson an extra year for that training to take hold.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

where is this idea coming from that jiricek didn't spend the offseason working on skating and strength? clearly that's what they told him to work on. he looked quicker to me in the preseason, but still rough around the edges.

it's not stuff that gets fixed overnight. even if he worked on it all offseason, or does extra work with the coaches, it's still a long process. it took kent johnson an extra year for that training to take hold.

I guess I just made an assumption after being disappointed in him still looking so rough and not making enough progress to make the roster. But fair enough, maybe he did all the "right things" but need more time. If that's so, then I do hope he is continuing that work now that he's not playing.

 

[majormajor]

where is this idea coming from that jiricek didn't spend the offseason working on skating and strength? clearly that's what they told him to work on. he looked quicker to me in the preseason, but still rough around the edges.

it's not stuff that gets fixed overnight. even if he worked on it all offseason, or does extra work with the coaches, it's still a long process. it took kent johnson an extra year for that training to take hold.

I don't know how much time Jiricek spent on it, he did not look quicker at all to me in preseason. Although the bigger thing in his game is that he's now alternating between hesitating and rushing things, and just seems to have lost his intuition and timing.

I agree with you that it is a years long process. But that can be made longer if a guy thinks he can fix it in a month and doesn't take things step by step. We saw with Cole that he regressed after not putting enough work before his second season. His skating looks much improved right now. I'd say this has been a bigger jump for Cole than the improvement he made a year ago, which was more talked about.

It can also take longer if a guy is playing too many games and is stuck in short term mode. KJ was able to take this huge step largely because he's been training his legs since March. I certainly wouldn't want Jiricek to blow out his shoulder but if he's spending six months focused on the long run, instead of thinking about how to get into the next game, then I think that mindset would benefit him.

 

[Viqsi]

Hoping that means that Danforth will be back soon. Would want to put him in in place of Labanc alongside Fantilli and JvR.