Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread XI

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I continue to not understand how we got Marrelli in the 3rd. What glaring deficiency does he have that caused him to not go higher?
Maybe last year there were more red flags in the defensive game + relatively low shooting and goal scoring numbers + kind of uninspiring toolset? Just guessing.

I don't recall reading reports of him anywhere except some short piece from McKeen's Brock Otten. EP did a pre-draft Q&A video where one of their scouts was answering a question about Marrelli but based on their description it seemed they got him mixed up with 67's Frankie Marrelli... and when you add the fact that neither EP or HP had him in the top-10 of their latest CBJ prospect pool rankings (#14 in EP's Sept. list) it gives an impression there never were much hype around him in the public scouting community.

This could be a home run pick, there's definitely top-4 D upside imo.

I think he handles some defensive situations better than Mateychuk and Svozil in their D+1 seasons. He isn't the most physical or strongest D but he holds his ground well in d zone because of his smarts, balance and good reach. The foundation looks promising. Currently plays on the 2nd PK unit for Oshawa, I don't know if he will ever get promoted to PK1 but I hope he'll get more chances to defend leads in final minutes (currently Sandhu-Danford pair gets most d zone starts).

Offensively he shares the high-end vision and poise that Svozil and Mateychuk have, and the lack of elite blueline walking/shooting angle changing ability. But his shot looks better and he knows how to get them on net through traffic. He's averaging over 3 shots per game, and is on pace for 214 SOG this year, which more than anyone on his team had last year.

What I don't like in comparison to those two is that sometimes he's a bit too nonchalant in retrievals and breakout plays, he isn't able to skate puck out of the zone as often as Mateychuk did at his age, so instead he tends to chip it out of the zone or to the weak side wall more often. But good thing is I've rarely seen him make turnovers, his style of play is less flashy but safer.

If there is one "glaring deficiency" that is going to keep him away from NHL action, I think it will be the lack of explosiveness and intensity, which is probably mostly a conditioning issue. He's a very similar D prospect to Svozil in that sense. He's in his D+4 and still has a lot of work to do.

With Marrelli I've noticed that when pace of the game gets temporarily higher, he becomes kind of invisible, not bad but clearly less effective player for his team, whereas a guy like Sennecke seems to be hustling every shift, winning battles and making an impact regardless of the context (and that's a prospect whose strength wasn't at pro level yet in preseason according to Ducks fans). I believe most of his flaws go back to athleticism, he just needs to do whatever he can to improve it enough. If I was a development coach my primary goal would be getting that message through loud and clear.

I think this play from Thursday night illustrates his explosiveness issues pretty well although Kevin He is a little unfair competition:


Edit: Some of Marrelli's pre-draft rankings:
Like many players expected to be chosen on the second day, Marrelli’s ranking varies drastically depending on the publication. Sportsnet’s Sam Cosentino has him at 32nd, the highest ranking the 18-year-old was given. The lowest was from FCHockey, who has Marrelli 97th, while Elite Prospects has him 92nd (and 68th in the consolidated ranking).
The Athletic’s Scott Wheeler points to his good skating ability and likes to be active in play. Marrelli has good poise, which paired with his confidence, allows him to skate along the blue line with the puck. Off the puck, he’ll make mistakes, but he’s a smart player who could become a third pairing defenceman in the future.
 
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Just published a translated interview with Sergei Ivanov.

Following Sochi’s game against HC Vityaz (2:3 OT), where the club celebrated its 10th anniversary, Ivanov talked about the team’s results, his conversations with SKA’s bench boss Roman Rotenberg, his outlook on loan moves, the positive example of Ilya Nabokov, and the Columbus Blue Jackets, who selected Sergei in the 2022 NHL Draft at 138th overall.

Have a good read!

 

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As I have said before, since the NCAA is opening itself up, when does the CHL get rid of its restrictive rules and allow players to jump from the CHL to AHL if they have already maxed out the challenges of the CHL but are not NHL ready?

If the CHL does not change this rule, could we see some CHL players jump to NCAA to get experience in that last year vs men rather than boys? If you are a CHL player, get drafted after dominating the CHL and don't make the NHL squad. Rather than going back to the CHL where you have already done all you can, why not jump to the NCAAs and play against men rather than boys for a year...new challenge and new parts of your game to work on...and get to experience college life for a year?

LOL, the CHL could become the feeder league to the NCAAs.
 
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  • Getting to be a starting goalie in the KHL as a twenty year old: :cool:
  • Getting to face the team that owns your rights but keeps loaning you out to cellar dwellers: :popcorn:
  • Beating them on the road while stopping 41 of 43 shots: :vhappy:
  • Picking up an assist: :razz:
Enjoyed reading the writeup from the game on the KHL website

In all seriousness, Ivanov's .914 Save Percentage and 2.73 GAA rank him way down at #28 in the league among goalies so the scoring must be way way lower in the KHL than it is in the NHL. That said take out his really bad start to the season (the first six games which were really just four clunkers) and he has a .932 Save Percentage and 1.99 GAA over his last ten games. Both numbers would be top five in the league.
 

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  • Getting to be a starting goalie in the KHL as a twenty year old::cool:
  • Getting to face the team that owns your rights but keeps loaning you out to cellar dwellers: :popcorn:
  • Beating them on the road while stopping 41 of 43 shots: :vhappy:
  • Picking up an assist: :razz:
Enjoyed reading the writeup from the game on the KHL website

In all seriousness, Ivanov's .914 Save Percentage and 2.73 GAA rank him way down at #28 in the league among goalies so the scoring must be way way lower in the KHL than it is in the NHL. That said take out his really bad start to the season (the first six games which were really just four clunkers) and he has a .932 Save Percentage and 1.99 GAA over his last ten games. Both numbers would be top five in the league.
Sergei presses his win with another. This time stopping 30 of 31 shots in a 3-1 victory. Both season long stats improve: .917 Save Percentage (20th) and 2.62 GAA (23rd).

Last 11 starts his stats are now .936 Save Percentage (306 Saves on 327 Shots) and 1.90 GAA. Both stats would be 3rd in the league.
 

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Ivanov got absolutely destroyed in his last start and got pulled. 6 Goals on 30 shots in 32 minutes of play. Torpedo was on pace for 56+ shots and is the second highest scoring team in the league so it must have been a shooting gallery on net.
 

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A shame but I don’t really count on him any more. I had hoped this would be some scoring wiz at the top level but I’ve given up hope. If that’s the wrong play I’ll be happy to have been.
I always thought he was a long shot to be an NHL player despite the gaudy CHL numbers. This injury leading to a long break from hockey is certainly not helping him.
 

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Went to the Phantoms game yesterday vs USNTDP. Strahl impressed. The whole Phantoms team impressed. Strahl has won three in a row stopping 53 of 56 shots over that time.
 

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Went to the Phantoms game yesterday vs USNTDP. Strahl impressed. The whole Phantoms team impressed. Strahl has won three in a row stopping 53 of 56 shots over that time.
I actually didn't know or straight up forgot he joined the Phantoms, interesting.
 

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6 more points in 3 games for Marrelli over the weekend. Pointless in one game and 1G/2A in each of the other two. 31 points in 22 games, one more goal and he doubles his season total from last year.

He and Sam Dickinson are significantly ahead of the rest of OHL defensemen in points. They're 8 points ahead of Zayne Parekh. Pretty good company for our 3rd rounder to be keeping.
 

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6 more points in 3 games for Marrelli over the weekend. Pointless in one game and 1G/2A in each of the other two. 31 points in 22 games, one more goal and he doubles his season total from last year.

He and Sam Dickinson are significantly ahead of the rest of OHL defensemen in points. They're 8 points ahead of Zayne Parekh. Pretty good company for our 3rd rounder to be keeping.
As long as he is doing the other things important to being a defenseman...you know...like defending, not turning the puck over and making good first passes.

I keep seeing fans who post that Jiricek belongs in the NHL because he was dominant in the AHL last season. My thought was...sure he belonged in the AHL offensively speaking but he was lacking in pretty much every other part of the job description. And that has proven to be his bugaboo while trying to get into the lineup in Columbus. Just noting that all we see are Marelli's offensive numbers...how is he doing with all the other important stuff?
 

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As long as he is doing the other things important to being a defenseman...you know...like defending, not turning the puck over and making good first passes.

I keep seeing fans who post that Jiricek belongs in the NHL because he was dominant in the AHL last season. My thought was...sure he belonged in the AHL offensively speaking but he was lacking in pretty much every other part of the job description. And that has proven to be his bugaboo while trying to get into the lineup in Columbus. Just noting that all we see are Marelli's offensive numbers...how is he doing with all the other important stuff?
I should definitely watch him play to make that determination for myself, but from what I’ve read, defense has been one of his main strengths in the past. The offense is only just now starting to come.
 

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