Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread X
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Antiillafire
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Another impressive performance from Knazko. It’s crazy how he looks better against men here at the WC than he did at WJC, must’ve made big strides in last few months. He needs to add strength to improve his shot and passing but he has high offensive iq. He set up several Slovaks for clear chances today and should have had 2-3 assists if we could finish our chances
best case, he hits in like kubalik. worst case a wick/brunner type of player.
he's ready to play, hungry and i suggest ever jackets fan to follow the world cup. he delivered two amazing first games. great speed, neat wrister and dangerous sense for offensive plays.
excited to follow hofmann's career
If Knazko will prgress it`s another steal. An excelent defensman, skill, speed, good passing, don`t have problem to play around the board, good in position, veru good the first pass. He has one year contract with TPS Turku.
Hofmann didn`t look too much against Russia.
Hofmann didn`t look too much against Russia.
After return Rosandic maybe it would be good to let him with Gernat
Knazko, Gernat - Rosandic, Janosik - Nemec, Daloga - Grman, Gachulinec
Antiillafire
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I agree, I would play Bucko over Gachulinec probably.
Knazko had a few good scoring chances today. He can still make some questionable decisions but that will happen cause of his youth.
It`s normal. I like his transition to NZ, receiving the puck and how he believed himself.
I doubt Fachilinec would be healthy scratch although Bucko is young and more talented. We have too many young guys - Nemec /17/, Knazko /18/, Bucko /21/. Plus the forwards Slafkovsky /17/, maybe Fasko-Rudas /21/... .
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He signed one year contract with TPS Turku. So after the next season. Of course if Jarmo doesn`t make understood with TPS. In this case maybe sooner.
Doggy
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I know we have had these kinds of debates before: what is a "prospect"? Are Tex and Bemmer still part of the "prospect pool" or have they already graduated?
Either way, it still reflects some real concerns (for Buffalo too). One example is that all the teams behind us other than the Sabres have had plenty of on ice success the past 5-10 years and should be drafting later and have a weaker prospect pool. Us and Buffalo...no excuse.
Doggy
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He's not ready so let him stay with Turku at least another season.
Xoggz22
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Not to be argumentative but is 4 straight years in the playoffs not some measure of success and certainly pushes down the draft pick ranks. The trade of Jones will change this view, as will the post draft. I still happen to really like our young players playing in the NHL. The 20, 21 and 22 year olds need to take a step, that changes the need for the prospect pool to push the team./ Then it becomes augmentation. We're certainly in a tough spot right now but I want to see what shakes out by August 1st, then I'll jump overboard.
Doggy
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Its not argumentative...its discussion. Is it success compared to Buffalo, Arizona and Montreal? Absolutely but those aren't the teams I want the CBJ to be compared to. Compared to the other teams right below them in the rankings? Not so much. Sustained success should mean lower ranked prospect pool (Pens, Bolts, Caps, etc) and sustained suckitude should mean higher ranked prospect pool (Kings, Devils, Ducks, etc). It's how the draft is set up to work.Not to be argumentative but is 4 straight years in the playoffs not some measure of success and certainly pushes down the draft pick ranks. The trade of Jones will change this view, as will the post draft. I still happen to really like our young players playing in the NHL. The 20, 21 and 22 year olds need to take a step, that changes the need for the prospect pool to push the team./ Then it becomes augmentation. We're certainly in a tough spot right now but I want to see what shakes out by August 1st, then I'll jump overboard.
Making the first round of the playoffs means mediocrity...just above average. Safe to say over the last five years the CBJ have sustained slightly above average success.
These rankings cited are comparing drafts from 2016-2020 so I am looking at results from 2015-2016 season to 2019-2020 season. Awarding 5 points for a Cup, 4 for a finals appearance, 3 for a third round appearance, etc:
- Pens (14 points): 2 Cups, 1 second round exit, 2 first round
- Bruins (10 points): 1 Finals, 1 third round, 1 second round, 1 first round, 1 no playoffs
- Caps (12 points): 1 Cup, 3 second round, 1 first round
- Bolts (12 points): 1 Cup, 2 third round, 1 first round, 1 no playoffs
- Blues (12 points): 1 Cup, 1 third round, 2 second round, 1 no playoffs
- CBJ (6 points): 2 second round, 2 first round, 1 no playoffs
The highest the Jackets have drafted is 18th though, then 21st, and the third highest pick is 45th. The two picks they gave up were 25th in 2017 (Vesalainen) and 19th in 2019 (Lassi Thomson). That seems to be what @Xoggz22 is saying, that they made it decently far, and haven't had any bad seasons where they could easily accumulate blue chip prospects. I'd expect if a team had results like that that they might have a prospect ranking between 15 and 25. That seems to be the case for the Jackets.
And I personally think they're better than 25th and closer to 15th. Some of these twitter scouts don't seem to be digging deep - it doesn't seem fair to ignore Voronkov, Tarasov, Angle, and Peeke and say "there's nothing much there". Even if Jarmo is drafting great, this is what you would expect with his off-the-board drafting: you won't get credit for it until the players are actually solid NHLers. Until then they're going to be ranked below the guys they were ranked below on draft day.
KJ Dangler
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Seems odd that with all the negative surrounding the #cbj .. Yegor Chinakov , who on draft night some analysts had no clue who he was , wins rookie of the year in KHL , and there’s not a post reflecting that .
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EspenK
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The point of the ranking isn't why or how. Its what is. Jackets prospect pool ranked here and elsewhere is ranked poorly. Take out Tex & Bemmstrom if you like and it is worse.
And that will only matter/be the case for the next month and a half, with our plethora of top 100 picks and whatever assets we may get from a Jones trade.
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Was surprisingly pretty much Slovakia's best D on the World Championship among men. Has progressed a lot this year, has some offensive upside. No idea how deep he slots in the Jacket's system though.
He has very good skating, moving, acceleration, the first pass, strong on the puck, very good hockey IQ, vision, doesn`t panic. He can play hard. Improve... a shot, muscule, be stronger. He can be a real steal. IMHO one of our the best d-man in WC if not the best.
More about him in this video:
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AmishLandJackets
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I just noticed on CapFriendly that Yegor Chinakhov's ELC with the Columbus Blue Jackets does contain a European Assignment Clause. To me that suggests that if Yegor doesn't make the big league squad from the get-go that he could be loaned back to Avansgard Omsk or another KHL team.
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Yeah, but it was said his goal was to play in North America...sounded like he was willing to go to AHL
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