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Denver with one of the most absolutely pathetic playoff performances I've ever seen.
Defensively, the Broncos were atrocious in all facets. Outside contain was broken numerous times (at least 10-12 plays), the coverage was late to respond and tackled like a first-year Pop Warner team, and the actual scheme was soft as well. I understand not wanting Wilson to be able to break a huge play on his own, but that hardly justifies bringing almost nothing in terms of a blitz and not really disguising any type of looks. He's a second-year QB who looked bad at times this year; rotate coverages, mix things up a bit instead of basically setting up like a bad scout team.
Offensively, Seattle had to bring nothing in terms of extra bodies in the pass rush since the front four was shredding the offensive line (leading to three turnovers). The receivers looked confounded, like they had no idea what type of coverage they were facing. And of course, actually catching the ball was a mystery as well.
And on special teams...holy hell, every kickoff cover team that's ever suited up has had it beaten into their heads to stay in their lines and close pursuit. NOT "get as far outside as possible and let a chasm form up the middle".
Defensively, the Broncos were atrocious in all facets. Outside contain was broken numerous times (at least 10-12 plays), the coverage was late to respond and tackled like a first-year Pop Warner team, and the actual scheme was soft as well. I understand not wanting Wilson to be able to break a huge play on his own, but that hardly justifies bringing almost nothing in terms of a blitz and not really disguising any type of looks. He's a second-year QB who looked bad at times this year; rotate coverages, mix things up a bit instead of basically setting up like a bad scout team.
Offensively, Seattle had to bring nothing in terms of extra bodies in the pass rush since the front four was shredding the offensive line (leading to three turnovers). The receivers looked confounded, like they had no idea what type of coverage they were facing. And of course, actually catching the ball was a mystery as well.
And on special teams...holy hell, every kickoff cover team that's ever suited up has had it beaten into their heads to stay in their lines and close pursuit. NOT "get as far outside as possible and let a chasm form up the middle".
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I had to figure out how to retrieve threads on my HF interface that I had deleted so I could bring this one back just to comment on this team.
Browns were the first pro sports team I followed in any sport, and they were a tough team then. But this... this this...
Very grave reservations about this new owner. I certainly don't like him.
When I read this today, I lost it a bit. Not because of any affection for Banner or Lombardi, but because of the things that have gone down with the Browns since the last game of the season. I didn't have this thread available when the coach was fired, maybe it was touched upon, but that was the start of behavior by the NFL team I have always pulled for that finally made me pretty ashamed of them.
Still, I was pretty upset when they traded Richardson and that turned out to be the right move, and now that I've calmed down and read some reactions there seems to be a sense that this was the right call, too. Who knows.
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I had to figure out how to retrieve threads on my HF interface that I had deleted so I could bring this one back just to comment on this team.
Browns were the first pro sports team I followed in any sport, and they were a tough team then. But this... this this...
Very grave reservations about this new owner. I certainly don't like him.
When I read this today, I lost it a bit. Not because of any affection for Banner or Lombardi, but because of the things that have gone down with the Browns since the last game of the season. I didn't have this thread available when the coach was fired, maybe it was touched upon, but that was the start of behavior by the NFL team I have always pulled for that finally made me pretty ashamed of them.
Still, I was pretty upset when they traded Richardson and that turned out to be the right move, and now that I've calmed down and read some reactions there seems to be a sense that this was the right call, too. Who knows.
They are always the right call until proven wrong [generally about 5 games into the season for the Browns...]
What do you mean? Is this some of your more oblique humor? And by oblique I'm being generous
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What do you mean? Is this some of your more oblique humor? And by oblique I'm being generous
I suppose I need to be working on my abdominal humor for true belly laughs...
Nice article from Grantland on Trey Burke, Jared Sullinger, and their families:
http://grantland.com/features/trey-burke-jared-sullinger-friends/
Another reminder of how important a strong, supportive homelife is to the development of children.
http://grantland.com/features/trey-burke-jared-sullinger-friends/
Another reminder of how important a strong, supportive homelife is to the development of children.
Reason#1 Browns can't win. They can't find an effing quarterback. Which really chaps my ass.
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Jim Boeheim Ejected After Controversial Charge Call vs Duke
Any coach could win at Duke getting these calls...what a joke and insult to college sports this ref is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O55rhjQh8VA
Any coach could win at Duke getting these calls...what a joke and insult to college sports this ref is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O55rhjQh8VA
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Even if they could find a quarterback, he's generally had **** to work with. Personally, I'm in the camp of sticking with Hoyer for a year and instead of blowing ANOTHER top pick on ANOTHER QB, pick up either Watkins or Clowney. Definitely don't want Manziel since I don't think his attitude would mesh well with the Browns. It's doubtful we get a chance at Bridgewater.
It's not like I expect the Browns to be superbowl champs with Hoyer, but I think another top notch receiver to go with Gordon and Cameron [and to a lesser extent Little] would let ANY quarterback shine there [other than Weeden who is, always was, and always will be an unshineable turd].
Browns need to bring in several guys with attitudes likes Jack Johnson, Letestu, Dubinsky. Surround whoever they draft with hard working, no excuses veteran winners at the NFL level and he'll have a fighting chance.
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Exactly the reason I am against spending the 4th overall pick on what will likely be the 3rd best QB available in the draft [at least draft rankings-wise] when they could get the top ranking talent at nearly any other position. There's no point in spending another top pick on another band-aid fix young qb savior that will be run out of town in another two years or less. We've tried that drafting system for over a decade and it still hasn't worked, maybe it's time to do something different. But this is definitely the wrong thread for this discussion, so I'm out as well until we meet again in the "other sports thread."
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I sort of agree with your point. The only question is if Manziel goes in the top 3 and leaves Bridgewater or Bortles is the guy left really the 3rd best QB prospect? On the other hand Russell Wilson was not a top 3 pick. If its Manziel I say pass (no pun intended) guy is too much of a potential head case for me.
It depends on who's there at #4 at QB. I don't want Manziel but wouldn't be terribly torn up if he ended up a Brown. I'm happy to give Hoyer a full season to see how he handles things, though, and using that #4 on a receiver or a head coach 
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It depends on who's there at #4 at QB. I don't want Manziel but wouldn't be terribly torn up if he ended up a Brown. I'm happy to give Hoyer a full season to see how he handles things, though, and using that #4 on a receiver or a head coach
Apparently the 49ers already declined a trade with us for Harbaugh.
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MLB enacts rule clarifying home plate collisions, and both old-timers and psuedo-oldtimers alike decry it. Of course, this simply ignores the fact that for the overwhelming majority of baseball history, there were no home plate collisions. Part of what made Fosse/Rose so noteworthy is that a collision at home plate was something that just didn't happen. A catcher was absolutely not permitted to block either home plate or the third base line without the ball in his possession.
All the way through the 1960s, there were annual baseball guides put out that contained noteworthy things from the preceding year, and most of them would have "you make the call' sample scenarios from the diamond. Every time that there was something about a home plate collision, the answer was very simple and very blunt: a catcher is not allowed to be in the path without the ball. Period.
All the way through the 1960s, there were annual baseball guides put out that contained noteworthy things from the preceding year, and most of them would have "you make the call' sample scenarios from the diamond. Every time that there was something about a home plate collision, the answer was very simple and very blunt: a catcher is not allowed to be in the path without the ball. Period.
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Either Bridgewater or trade the pick. Bridgewater is pretty refined, but I don't know how high his ceiling is. Bortles I just don't like at all, and the fact that he's a likely top-5 pick this year speaks volumes about how thin this QB class is.
Manziel is as dynamic of a QB as we've seen since Michael Vick, but I think Manziel is a bit better going into his draft. It's absolutely a high-risk pick, but he could be an incredible player for the next 15 years.
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Agree about Manziel ... I get the risk, but the guy can play football, and in the end, isn't that what it's about?
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Manziel is too small for the AFC North and his arm isn't great. Browns should wait a year and get Jameis Winston, who would go #1 overall in this class.
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