Value of: CBJ 20th OA for a late 1st + 2nd

[tunnelvision]

Reports suggest Jackets might be looking to select a goalie from this year's class. They have two firsts, #14 and #20, but zero 2nd round picks. None of the goalie prospects sound good enough to be drafted in top-20, which is why it might be smarter for CBJ to trade down and obtain one of those with a slightly later pick.

NSH, SJ, CHI, PHI and WSH for example have at least two picks in the 21-50 range. Would some of them be interested to move up to #20? I guess a late 1st + 2026 2nd could also work if the other team only has one pick in that range.

 

[BHawk21]

Chicago would do that.

Toronto 25th and Dallas 62 or Islanders/Toronto 2nd 2026 for 20th.

 

[HighLifeMan]

I am sure Calgary would move 32 + 54 for 20 but it seems a touch light.

 

[Grinner]

a trade would of course wait until the CBJ are on the clock with pick 20.
As a Sharks fan, I would have an interest.
30th+ 53rd for the 20th
30th+ 33rd for the 14th

 

[thedjpd]

Think Flyers would also do this, or they may give offer both late 1sts and an early 2nd or something for your 14th if that's an option for CBJ also to draft a Carter Bear type.

 

[Random schmoe]

That's an idea Caps fans have liked, if there is some guy from that second tier of draft eligibles available around there that wouldn't be available at 27.
(Caps have 27 and 37. The Puckpedia "Perri Pick Value Calculator" seems to think that would be lopsided for the Jackets, so they'd need to send something back to balance it. According to their thingie, Columbus' 3rd isn't enough. Grain of salt, here.)

 

[Dumais]

I don't like moving back. With all CBJ's top (quality) prospects now in the NHL, they need to start building the next core that will step in over the next 3 to 4 years. Trading back might make sense early in round 1 and getting extra picks in round 1, but most picks beyond the first round are a Longshot at best. Getting extra picks so you can take guys the majority of teams have already passed on, is probably not a good way of finding quality.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Reports suggest Jackets might be looking to select a goalie from this year's class. They have two firsts, #14 and #20, but zero 2nd round picks. None of the goalie prospects sound good enough to be drafted in top-20, which is why it might be smarter for CBJ to trade down and obtain one of those with a slightly later pick.

NSH, SJ, CHI, PHI and WSH for example have at least two picks in the 21-50 range. Would some of them be interested to move up to #20? I guess a late 1st + 2026 2nd could also work if the other team only has one pick in that range.

Montreal could offer you 49, plus your 2nd back for 20?

 

[stevo61]

Montreal could offer you 49, plus your 2nd back for 20?

That completely ignores the whole point of the OP

 

[SteelCityCannon]

That completely ignores the whole point of the OP

You missed the first word of his post. That should shed some light on their thought process.

 

[Space umpire]

Chicago would do that.

Toronto 25th and Dallas 62 or Islanders/Toronto 2nd 2026 for 20th.

I don’t personally see a big value difference between 20 and 25 in this draft but I can see Chicago doing that.
Davidson has shown a willingness to move up to make sure he gets who his scouts want.
62nd pick isn’t a major loss when you’re as loaded with prospects as the Hawks are.

 

[Lockin17]

#41 + #49 + Cayden Primeau + 2nd 2026 (CLB)
for
#20

 

[Fro]

#41 + #49 + Cayden Primeau + 2nd 2026 (CLB)
for
#20

That's a very interesting option...gives some flexibility to move back into the 30s if we need to

 

[tunnelvision]

a trade would of course wait until the CBJ are on the clock with pick 20.
As a Sharks fan, I would have an interest.
30th+ 53rd for the 20th
30th+ 33rd for the 14th

30+33 for 20+77 would be more fair for both.

I don't like moving back. With all CBJ's top (quality) prospects now in the NHL, they need to start building the next core that will step in over the next 3 to 4 years. Trading back might make sense early in round 1 and getting extra picks in round 1, but most picks beyond the first round are a Longshot at best. Getting extra picks so you can take guys the majority of teams have already passed on, is probably not a good way of finding quality.

I'm not a huge fan of moving back to pick a late 1st/early 2nd goalie either but that's not the reason I'm doing the exercise. This starts with an assumption that Jackets are already committed to draft one of their favorite goalie prospects from this class, and I'm trying to think of the smartest way to get it realistically.

#41 + #49 + Cayden Primeau + 2nd 2026 (CLB)
for
#20

A package of picks with #41 as the top one might be too risky for CBJ if they really want to secure a higher-tier talent like Frolov or Ravensbergen.

 

[Castle8130]

Feels like CBJ are fixated on a defenseman with the 14th pick. If I’m Columbus, and a goalie I really like is there in the 2nd round, then I’d try to trade a future 2nd rounder for a 2nd round pick this year. Goalies take forever to develop and you never know when one will pop up. There should be a good goalie in the later 2nd round

 

[Dumais]

I'm not a huge fan of moving back to pick a late 1st/early 2nd goalie either but that's not the reason I'm doing the exercise. This starts with an assumption that Jackets are already committed to draft one of their favorite goalie prospects from this class, and I'm trying to think of the smartest way to get it realistically.

Goalies are so hard to predict tho, and with Gardner & Ivanov already in the system; it feels like overkill. Plus the best goalie CBJ ever had was Bob and we traded for him. I just think with all the forwards that have graduated to the NHL recently, have left the cupboards bare. IMO we need to start building a new core group and picking in the first round is where you can find top6 forwards & top4 dmen..

 

[Fro]

Goalies are so hard to predict tho, and with Gardner & Ivanov already in the system; it feels like overkill. Plus the best goalie CBJ ever had was Bob and we traded for him. I just think with all the forwards that have graduated to the NHL recently, have left the cupboards bare. IMO we need to start building a new core group and picking in the first round is where you can find top6 forwards & top4 dmen..

Don't forget Strahl too...

 

[BillR10]

a trade would of course wait until the CBJ are on the clock with pick 20.
As a Sharks fan, I would have an interest.
30th+ 53rd for the 20th
30th+ 33rd for the 14th

Sharks getting up in that Fiddler range would be ideal. Getting Misa and Fiddler would be a huge win

 

[3074326]

I agree that they need a goalie, but I don't think drafting one and waiting for 3 years or so is the answer for their current roster. I'd rather see them package the pick(s) with a roster player and upgrade their roster. Chinakhov + 20 or something like that as a basic framework would be what I would do, however... I am an idiot

 

[Grinner]

Sharks getting up in that Fiddler range would be ideal. Getting Misa and Fiddler would be a huge win

I'm not of a mind Fiddler offers up that much thst the Sharks ought to trade up for

 

[matt trick]

I'm not of a mind Fiddler offers up that much thst the Sharks ought to trade up for

I agree. He'd be great at 30 or 35, but I wouldn't trade up for than EDM's 3rd for him. Hensler however, I'd be game for that.

 

[Patty Ice]

That completely ignores the whole point of the OP

When has that ever stopped a good ole Habs offer?