Player Discussion Cayden Primeau Part II

[ahmedou]

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

He's been playing good in Laval. Better numbers than Dobes

 

[DAChampion]

Bad news for Primeau's career.

He has kind of saved it by dominating in the AHL for 25 games, and if he had carried the Rocket to the championships he'd be caught up a lot more.

But now, Primeau will be on the bench doing nothing, and Fowler will lead the Rocket to a championship.

 

[ahmedou]

Bad news for Primeau's career.

He has kind of saved it by dominating in the AHL for 25 games, and if he had carried the Rocket to the championships he'd be caught up a lot more.

But now, Primeau will be on the bench doing nothing, and Fowler will lead the Rocket to a championship.

BeaCH Club

 

[Archijerej]

People who are giving up on Primeau just don't get it. This is not an atypical development curve for a good NHL goaltender and he very well could be an NHL stud just as easily as he might never find the consistency that he has been searching for.

Letting Primeau walk after all of the development time only to have him blossom elsewhere is a very real possibility and I think we need to try and keep him even if that means Dobes starting in Laval next season. Of course this is all contingent on Primeau signing a short/cheap deal as he certainly will have garnered NHL wide interest again.

This is eminently logical both from the point of view of asset management and the dynamics of goalie development.

That said, there are some less tangible factors here at play that need to be considered. Is the management and coaching staff ready to trust Primeau one more time? Abysmal backup goaltending was one of the major factors that nearly derailed our season, and it forced the management to scramble and promote another raw goalie prematurely.

Even with Dobes up, they felt compelled to lean on Montembeault so heavily, that I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to sign a veteran backup to a short term deal this offseason.

What about Primeau himself? Does he feel at ease as part of this group that has already seen him fail? Not unreasonable to think he would prefer to start with a clean slate somewhere else.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

This is eminently logical both from the point of view of asset management and the dynamics of goalie development.

That said, there are some less tangible factors here at play that need to be considered. Is the management and coaching staff ready to trust Primeau one more time? Abysmal backup goaltending was one of the major factors that nearly derailed our season, and it forced the management to scramble and promote another raw goalie prematurely.

Even with Dobes up, they felt compelled to lean on Montembeault so heavily, that I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to sign a veteran backup to a short term deal this offseason.

What about Primeau himself? Does he feel at ease as part of this group that has already seen him fail? Not unreasonable to think he would prefer to start with a clean slate somewhere else.

Primeau was outstanding in the latter part of last season and actually outplayed Montembault after Allen was traded. He played behind an absolutely abysmal defensive game to start this season and his confidence took a hit. He went back ti Laval and has been nothing short of dominant. Basically he had a small sample playing in conditions that any goalie would fail in sandwiched between two longer samples where he was outstanding.

I think people are nothing short of foolish to write him off as an NHL goaltender at his age with the displays of dominance that he has shown since we drafted him. Much like almost every goaltender ever he has been inconsistent but has never been tested long enough at the NHL level to arrive at a meaningful conclusion.

I don't know what Hughes will do with him but I would not be shocked to see him emerge as a very good NHL goaltender and a potential #1. I am not asserting that he will reach that level but it is just blind stupidity when I hear people (not you) calling him a bust. It's as though they have never watched the game or if they have they simply haven't been paying attention.

They did the right thing by sending him down as the team was playing horrid defence in front of him and he was shell shocked and needed a confidence boost. He quite literally regained his game immediately upon returning to Laval and reached even higher heights than he ever has .

You make some great points about the unknowns with his mental make up and whether Montreal is the market for him. I just think he needs at least one more shot so that we can find out.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Bad news for Primeau's career.

He has kind of saved it by dominating in the AHL for 25 games, and if he had carried the Rocket to the championships he'd be caught up a lot more.

But now, Primeau will be on the bench doing nothing, and Fowler will lead the Rocket to a championship.

I would expect them to go to Primeau if Dobes sh*ts the bed........let's hope they don't need to do this.

 

[ahmedou]

I still can't believe how he clearedou the waivers!

Primeau set for ‘little bit different’ view of Game 4 as Canadiens backup goalie | NHL.com

25-year-old raced to Bell Centre on Friday after injury to Montembeault, had 1.96 GAA in AHL

www.nhl.com

 

[pth2]

It'll be interesting to see who gets the starts in the AHL playoffs if Fowler keeps doing well.

By rights it should be Primeau as he got his team there, but if Fowler is doing the job and management sees him as the future, it's easy to think they would want to give Fowler those starts. I mean, Primeau might well be traded for a midround pick or even lost to waivers, so why prioritize him if Fowler is doing well ?

 

[DAChampion]

I mean, Primeau might well be traded for a midround pick or even lost to waivers, so why prioritize him if Fowler is doing well ?

Primeau might also become an excellent starter.

What was the discussion like around here when the Habs lost Thomas Vokoun to waivers?

 

[pth2]

Primeau might also become an excellent starter.

What was the discussion like around here when the Habs lost Thomas Vokoun to waivers?

Very different situation.
They bribed Nashville into taking Vokun in the expansion draft, as he wasn't seen as a terrific prospect by any means. One of Réjean Houle's better calls, as it meant both Thibault and Théodore were exempt for another expansion draft, the year after.

 

[Andrei79]

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[Andrei79]

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[HuGo Burner Acc]

Primeau might also become an excellent starter.

What was the discussion like around here when the Habs lost Thomas Vokoun to waivers?

He could be. No one is doubting that possibility, no matter how small. It just won't be with the habs. Some people just aren't made for certain markets. Primeau wasn't made for Montreal. Even if he does better somewhere else, that doesn't necessarily mean he'd do the same or around the same if he had stayed with the habs

 

[The Last Red]

Montembeault is playing so well this series.

It's a long road for any of Primeau, Fowler, and Dobes.

It really won’t be . . . for Fowler. He’s very clearly HuGo’s “guy,” as they say. To overcome that, Monty will have to become the next Shesterkin, which obviously won’t occur.