Prospect Info: Cayden Lindstrom

[Xoggz22]

You don’t need to gatekeep how someone feels. I join him in not being overly enthusiastic about the Jiricek deal.

Laine I don’t care about. I’m more annoyed about losing the second.

Lindstrom we’re far too early but I can’t say I’m feeling good about it either.

The Waddell era has been mostly good so far. But that doesn’t mean he’s devoid of any criticism.

This is true, but it's no different than anything else in this world... people latch on to the negative and rarely give credit for the positive. Any perceived positive move is typically met with a negative bent like "well...let's see what happens". However, a move that isn't immediately favorable to some is met with "what a terrible move" like there isn't anything else behind it. I mean the Laine move is the best example. Sure, keep him and keep the 2nd and find that A) he gets hurt again, B) he doesn't fit the system and C) he becomes a malcontent because he simply didn't want to return to the CBJ. I'm just using that as an example. The move away from Laine has been a good thing. I don't know anyone, myself included, that was happy to send a 2nd with him, but there is no retention and to judge moves today for what impact they may have today and tomorrow is just silly.

On the other side, people will find fault with his signing of KJ to an incredible deal because, hey, it's going to cost them in 3 years. It may (*surely it will if this trend continues), it may not, but it was going to cost at some point and there was no way KJ was signing long term now. He could have signed a 1 year deal and pushed up the high rising cost next year. I'm just tired of something being an immediate negative without consideration that every response is short term. Not one of us know what the actual plan is. Not one of us knows how these recent moves will work out. it's too soon and because we feel something better could have happened, it's a black mark. However, the approach is way different and welcome than what I was watching with Jarmo and I was a true believer in Jarmo at the time. He inherited this black hole. So far the return appears to be moving in the right direction. I like that.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

This is true, but it's no different than anything else in this world... people latch on to the negative and rarely give credit for the positive. Any perceived positive move is typically met with a negative bent like "well...let's see what happens". However, a move that isn't immediately favorable to some is met with "what a terrible move" like there isn't anything else behind it. I mean the Laine move is the best example. Sure, keep him and keep the 2nd and find that A) he gets hurt again, B) he doesn't fit the system and C) he becomes a malcontent because he simply didn't want to return to the CBJ. I'm just using that as an example. The move away from Laine has been a good thing. I don't know anyone, myself included, that was happy to send a 2nd with him, but there is no retention and to judge moves today for what impact they may have today and tomorrow is just silly.

On the other side, people will find fault with his signing of KJ to an incredible deal because, hey, it's going to cost them in 3 years. It may (*surely it will if this trend continues), it may not, but it was going to cost at some point and there was no way KJ was signing long term now. He could have signed a 1 year deal and pushed up the high rising cost next year. I'm just tired of something being an immediate negative without consideration that every response is short term. Not one of us know what the actual plan is. Not one of us knows how these recent moves will work out. it's too soon and because we feel something better could have happened, it's a black mark. However, the approach is way different and welcome than what I was watching with Jarmo and I was a true believer in Jarmo at the time. He inherited this black hole. So far the return appears to be moving in the right direction. I like that.

Just people trying to be realistic. You know, the opposite of optimistic.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Nearing the end of the one month restriction from workouts. Hopefully he is able to resume working out and getting on the ice soon

 

[AnonCommentary]

Should actually be off or at least ready to go after the holiday season. Surgery was on the 19th. So it’s been almost 40 (38) days.

 

[siggy63]

Should actually be off or at least ready to go after the holiday season. Surgery was on the 19th. So it’s been almost 40 (38) days.

 

[majormajor]

We usually don't get updates, if we ever get them, until a guy is skating again or doing non-contact drills with the team. So we're still a ways away from learning anything.

From what I read about the surgery, players recover quickly from this, but at his age I think they'll take a full couple months before they clear him for on-ice stuff. So I don't expect to hear anything for a while.

 

[ColumbusTrill]

Not sure how credible this guy is but he is a writer for The Hockey Writers

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Not sure how credible this guy is but he is a writer for The Hockey Writers

If true, a year and a half away from the game is pretty awful. Ugh

 

[Youngguns1380]

If true, a year and a half away from the game is pretty awful. Ugh

Looking worse for the CBJ pick at 4.

 

[majormajor]

If true, a year and a half away from the game is pretty awful. Ugh

If it was just that, I'd still be hopeful. But the reason he needs that time off is that the surgery didn't get him back to 100%.

Edit: It's possible I'm just misreading things and the expected recovery included something that was like 6 months or so, but I thought it was more like 2-3 months. But I still think it's probably the case that the surgery didn't fix the issue.

 

[tunnelvision]

Very frustrating news if true

 

[Jovavic]

Good thing I was sitting down for this absolutely shocking news.

Worst pick in franchise history, which is saying alot.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Good thing I was sitting down for this absolutely shocking news.

Worst pick in franchise history, which is saying alot.

He's 18 years old...

Also have you been living under a rock? We've had some proven terrible draft picks.

 

[Jovavic]

He's 18 years old...

Also have you been living under a rock? We've had some proven terrible draft picks.

This will be looked back as Brule part 2, terrible pick from the start.

Living under a rock? I've been discussing prospects on this site since Rusty was 20. I've been here for all the terrible picks, Lindstrom is one. He's a gamble you take at 10th or later.

 

[GoJackets1]

We don't know how Lindstrom will pan out yet. That tweet might be total bullshit. However, my opinion on the pick has remained unchanged since the moment it happened.

While I understand the appeal of a large, mean, skilled center, the risk of his back injury being career-trajectory-altering was way too high to take him at 4th overall. Especially when there was an obvious Panarin-mold player sitting there. Especially with how well our recent Russian draft picks have turned out.

I'm obviously rooting for Lindstrom, he seems like a truly great kid, and could well be an amazing player. But given what has transpired, you definitely have to wonder what the hell the doctors that "cleared" him were seeing at the time. My conclusion being, all facts considered, we should have taken Demidov. Both with hindsight and without.

 

[koteka]

I initially wanted Lindstrom. By the time the draft rolled around I had decided we needed to go a different direction because we couldn’t screw the pick up. I got back on the Lindstrom train when we drafted him thinking our doctors must know something. Now I am back on the “we need to clean house” side of things. If the doctors are wrong, let’s get new doctors. Clean out the various front off positions and bring in all new people. I hope Lindstrom’s back eventually heals and we end up with a decent player in 2 or 3 years. I am not going to write off the pick. But Jiricek’s knee and Lindstrom’s back make me want to grab an injury free solid guy in 2025.

 

[Napoli]

We don't know how Lindstrom will pan out yet. That tweet might be total bullshit. However, my opinion on the pick has remained unchanged since the moment it happened.

While I understand the appeal of a large, mean, skilled center, the risk of his back injury being career-trajectory-altering was way too high to take him at 4th overall. Especially when there was an obvious Panarin-mold player sitting there. Especially with how well our recent Russian draft picks have turned out.

I'm obviously rooting for Lindstrom, he seems like a truly great kid, and could well be an amazing player. But given what has transpired, you definitely have to wonder what the hell the doctors that "cleared" him were seeing at the time. My conclusion being, all facts considered, we should have taken Demidov. Both with hindsight and without.

Seriously, not sure how they didnt see the obvious signs for concern. It's a bad pick not because of the player but all the injury concerns. Add Demidov being picked right behind him and now it's truly bad. Waddell f***ed this up big time.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

This will be looked back as Brule part 2, terrible pick from the start.

Living under a rock? I've been discussing prospects on this site since Rusty was 20. I've been here for all the terrible picks, Lindstrom is one. He's a gamble you take at 10th or later.

If you're comfortable putting Lindstrom under the absolute cornucopia of shit picks we've had I'm not sure I believe you.

He's 18. What are we even doing here.

 

[stevo61]

If you're comfortable putting Lindstrom under the absolute cornucopia of shit picks we've had I'm not sure I believe you.

He's 18. What are we even doing here.

It's a common approach on these boards, expect the worst so you can either say you were right or can be pleasantly surprised

 

[Jovavic]

You guys are right, he'll magically be cured and will resume the most important year of his development posthaste.

Make a list of top 5 picks that had their entire d+1 year lost that ended up reaching even "star" level. I'll wait.

 

[stevo61]

You guys are right, he'll magically be cured and will resume the most important year of his development posthaste.

Make a list of top 5 picks that had their entire d+1 year lost that ended up reaching even "star" level. I'll wait.

Give it a couple years and I'll give you a name

 

[GoJackets1]

You guys are right, he'll magically be cured and will resume the most important year of his development posthaste.

Make a list of top 5 picks that had their entire d+1 year lost that ended up reaching even "star" level. I'll wait.

Closest examples I have for you are Morgan Reilly only played 18 games in his draft year, and Sam Bennett only played 12 in his D+1.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Was concerned when he was drafted. I'm still concerned. If he never plays a game it will be a bigger draft miss/bust than anything Doug Maclean ever did.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[DougKnowsBest]

I saw him walk into the building on his own without assistance New Year’s Eve.

So that’s good