Confirmed with Link: Casey Mittelstadt traded to COL for D Bo Byram. Straight up.

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That would be perfect. I'd like to trade JJP or Kulich for an excellent 4C like that, but one who has term and low AAV. If we grab a ROR, that only plugs the hole for a season or two.
What. Did you mean 3C?

You also want to remove our second leading goal scorer? Who is going to put pucks in the net....
 
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So far I found the outside takes to be the most refreshing, if I was active and living in this echo chamber of negativity currently on this trade thru this forum as I often am I would probably feel far worse with the trade.

Seeing how other people (not Sabres fans) view the trade and their idea of the team is refreshing than me thinking 13 straight years of misery with no end in sight.

Taking a step back from the team this year has also been a lot healthier, I will continue to stay away occasionally watching a game here and there until next season.

It will be our time soon!
 
He’s had time before, and hasn’t used it. I think the worry is understandable.
No doubt.

If Adams has another minimalistic off season and he runs out an even younger roster next season than he had in 2023-24, then I will be really pessimistic about their chances to make the playoffs in 2024-25.

But, with this move, he did move a big time roster player. So, that is already a bit of a shift as this is the biggest guy under team control that he has moved since the Eichel & Reinhart deals.
 
Really liked Casey. Really bummed he got traded. But we have too many forwards and not enough defence. Sure we could have used a rhd but he has the potential. Krebs deserves more of a shot now he will get it. Bo may be a good get.

Sabres had to make a move. Hopefully this helps
 
No doubt.

If Adams has another minimalistic off season and he runs out an even younger roster next season than he had in 2023-24, then I will be really pessimistic about their chances to make the playoffs in 2024-25.

But, with this move, he did move a big time roster player. So, that is already a bit of a shift as this is the biggest guy under team control that he has moved since the Eichel & Reinhart deals.
If the team just goes younger again, I hope they actually break news that the pegulas are selling the team

At some point you need vet help on the team, and vets that contribute not just play fourth line and get paid little

It is nice to see them start shaping the roster moving an actual piece of the active roster. Gives some hope that they know things need to change or improve
 
To be fair, he has a long time between now and mid to late July to address the center depth.

You are not going to solve all the issues with any one trade.

The first stage will be giving Krebs a longer look at center not on the 4th line. If that doesn't go well, then Adams will know that getting two bottom 6 centers is on the To Do list for the off season.
Byram is addition by subtraction so you are right we wont know until the off season because we just made one hole to fill another. Adams said he is now willing to part with prospects and picks to put together a winning team which is a step in the right direction.

Fingers crossed Byram is at least a 3-4(tops out at a number 2)and we get a 2nd line center that pushes Cozens down to the 3rd spot(thats my hope).
 
I don't think Okie or Zemgus have done anything to help the team so i don't really care that they're vets.
I just don't see Byram coming in and being a demanding guy that elevates the rest of the roster, either.

And you can say the same things about Dahlin, Tuch, or anyone else in that locker room right now.

A huge part of the floundering of the roster is that they are still missing the guys that say the Bruins have in their room that refuse to let their standard slip even when they lose foundational guys off the roster.
 
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I just don't see Byram coming in and being a demanding guy that elevates the rest of the roster, either.

And you can say the same things about Dahlin, Tuch, or anyone else in that locker room right now.

A huge part of the floundering of the roster is that they are still missing the guys that say the Bruins have in their room that refuse to let their standard slip even when they lose foundational guys off the roster.
Still feel its easier to get a coach who can hold players accountable like McDermott then producing Marchands etc out of thin air.
 

Two years ago there may not have been a more tantalizing young defenseman in the NHL than Bowen Byram — and a more frustrating young forward than Casey Mittelstadt.

One was a 20-year-old picked No. 4 just two years prior who looked like he was on the cusp of superstardom thanks to a magnificent playoff run where he often looked like one of the best players on the ice. The other was a 22-year-old picked No. 8 four years prior who had so far only looked disappointing given his draft pedigree.

Two years later the tides have seriously shifted and Byram and Middlestadt have come together for one of the most fascinating trades in years. Both Colorado and Buffalo traded from a position of strength to fill a position of need and did so with two players who come with tremendous upside … and risk.

With Byram and Mittelstadt, the talent level is obvious, but only one of those players is currently making do. That’s Mittelstadt, who looks much closer to a finished product — a product that is almost exactly what he was billed to be. He’s grown into a creative playmaker who can drive a second line. He’s an all-three-zone player who does well getting pucks out, moving pucks up and then creating in-zone chances. That fills a major void for Colorado with Mittelstadt scoring 2.25 points per 60 at five-on-five in each of the last two seasons and showing off a rare talent for earning more goals than expected. With improved defense this season, he looks like a perfect fit.

The risk with Mittelstadt is whether that ability to generate more goals than expected is legit. Over the last two seasons, the Sabres have scored 3.4 goals per 60 with Mittelstadt on the ice, well above their 2.6 expected goals per 60. There’s likely some truth to that given his ability to create scoring chances off his passes, but also the possibility of some regression as a scorer.

Essentially, Mittelstadt checks in with a projected Net Rating of plus-3.9 — but he might not be that good.

For Byram, it’s the opposite. His projection for next season is minus-0.2 and he’s below average this season — but he might not be that bad.

There’s a reason two savvy organizations viewed this as an equal deal, one that may not be as lopsided as some analysts may currently view it. Mittelstadt may be the better player at the moment, but Byram’s potential is what makes it worth it for the Sabres.

Byram’s on-ice results have never really been stellar aside from that one playoff run, but that’s partially due to injury troubles and having to play with basically everyone but Nathan MacKinnon’s line in Colorado. The team’s depth has taken a serious hit since its Stanley Cup win in 2022 and that limits Byram’s teammate quality given Cale Makar spends so much time with MacKinnon. In previous years he looked like a serious driver when it comes to individual possession-driving and it shows in Corey Sznajder’s tracked data.

Just last year Byram had the profile of a future star in the right situation: someone who can move the puck well in the defensive zone, defend his own blue line, rush up ice and create a serious amount of chances in the offensive zone. There may be other stuff he doesn’t do well that hampered his on-ice results, but skill-wise it looked like Byram had it. His puck efficiency was tremendous across the board.



That’s all changed this year; none of those facets have been true and he’s been below average in every regard except rushing up ice. It’s been a night-and-day change, one that speaks to a need for a change of scenery where he can show more in a top-four role.

Byram wasn’t getting that in Colorado, but he should get more opportunity in Buffalo — even with Rasmus Dahlin and Owen Power around on the left side.

This deal may not look perfectly fair at the moment, but everything hinges on what Byram can become. The talent and opportunity are there for him to make this a win for the Sabres. Can he take advantage of it?

Still feel its easier to get a coach who can hold players accountable like McDermott then producing Marchands etc out of thin air.
NHL coaches tend to have short shelf lives compared to quality players.

And it's unlikely that Granato is going anywhere in the short to medium term.
 
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Byram played less than a minute per game on the PP. 15.5% of the Avs PP TOI, and had 0 points on the PP in Colorado. So, I'm surprised that he has a 70 score for the PP.

:dunno:

Are their stat cards for career rather than just this season? Byram only has 7 PP points in his entire career, 3 goals and 4 assists, and most (6) was last year when Makar was out.
 
Personally, I think the trade is ok. Mittelstadt is not a big loss, too many shape fluctuations, no continuity.
In addition, it would have been feared that he would make an extra effort this year to have a better negotiating position for a new, higher-paying contract and then rest on his laurels in the following years, as was sometimes the case with Thompson or Cozens.
With Byram, the Sabres get another young and talented defender with top4 potential and his statistics are impressive at 22 years old.
 
I did hope for less risk. But Mitts for a top 4 D and assets to replace Mitts was always on the table for me.
 
Mittelstadt was showing too many signs recently of his old lazy habits. I remember last week thinking he has been invisible besides getting out worked on puck battles, to look and see he had 3 points in Feb.

I wanted nothing to do with paying him the money he thinks he is worth.
 
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