Friedman: Carolina likely to offer an 8 year, $100+ M contract to Rantanen before the deadline

[TheBigLetowski]

Not Biz, he staked out the take that the trade would cost Rantanen money

Hard to take that guy seriously, but i did see that.

 

[Chrispy]

Just for discussion sake, take a look at Slavin’s extension kicking on next year, almost all bonus:

https://puckpedia.com/player/jaccob-slavin

The wrinkle…I believe the last year’s SB is deferred. Not sure how deferred $$$ would fly with Rantanen, but the Canes have changed the way in which their contracts are structured.

Jarvis has a $4M signing bonus in 2024, $4M in 2026, and $5.57M in 2032 as part of his deal. Also 3 sets of deferred signing bonuses in addition to that.

 

[torniojaws]

What playstyle does he fit then?

Colorado

 

[Fatass]

I keep being amazed at how many people don’t know (or understand how big of a difference it is) that after July 1st you can only sign 7-year deals. It’s a lot of money for these superstar players who would get +10m and max term.

Of course. But what’s stopping the player from still signing with Carolina on July 1? He can look at offers from other clubs and force the Canes to pay even more. This player, because of his superstar status and the position the Canes put themselves into trading for a guy of this level as a coming UFA, has all the leverage.
There is no reason for him to not wait until July 1. Canes might offer 12.5 x 8 now but be forced into paying 13.5 x 8 if they want to keep the player. And pay most if the contract up front in bonuses too.

 

[spockBokk]

Of course. But what’s stopping the player from still signing with Carolina on July 1? He can look at offers from other clubs and force the Canes to pay even more. This player, because of his superstar status and the position the Canes put themselves into trading for a guy of this level as a coming UFA, has all the leverage.
There is no reason for him to not wait until July 1. Canes might offer 12.5 x 8 now but be forced into paying 13.5 x 8 if they want to keep the player. And pay most if the contract up front in bonuses too.

8yrs is off the table at 12:01am on 7/1 regardless of if he signs with CAR or any other team, not that hard to grasp

 

[Fatass]

8yrs is off the table at 12:01am on 7/1 regardless of if he signs with CAR or any other team, not that hard to grasp

Then the Canes AAV will bump up, as will the way the contract is paid out. Some clubs might offer 15 x 7 and mostly in bonus dollars.plus he gets to pick his destination.
IMO the player waits. The cap is going up by some big numbers.

 

[spockBokk]

Then the Canes AAV will bump up, as will the way the contract is paid out. Some clubs might offer 15 x 7 and mostly in bonus dollars.plus he gets to pick his destination.
IMO the player waits. The cap is going up by some big numbers.

Who’s going to offer $15M? That’s a bit outlandish

 

[SmokeyDuck]

If the Canes cant sign him, he would be perfect on a line with Carlsson...especially if he can take faceoffs. Would they trade him or use him for the playoffs and let him walk?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Notebook: Could Mikko Rantanen Actually Get Traded Again?

Seventeen days ago the hockey world, and fans around this team in particular, were stunned when Mikko Rantanen was traded to the Carolina Hurricanes — suddenly ending his storied 10-year stint with the Colorado Avalanche. Seventeen days ago it was the biggest news in the NHL. Seventeen days...

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After speaking to several people, the general feeling is that Rantanen is still struggling with the shock value of this whole thing. He didn’t want to leave Colorado. It wasn’t supposed to happen.

The contract negotiations were what they were. But this isn’t the first time a superstar player in the prime of his career has tried to play hardball. More often than not, the team ends up making up the difference and the player gets signed. We saw it with Gabriel Landeskog just four years ago, albeit he wasn’t the same caliber player that Rantanen is now.

But still. The idea that Rantanen was stunned by the trade is very much real. Did he put too much trust in his agent? Did he truly understand that Chris MacFarland and the Avs were serious about moving him before March 7? I’m not entirely sure. But I do think there is some truth to that.

I believe that Rantanen thought he had time to figure things out before the deadline. But I also think MacFarland wasn’t going to take that risk. If the Avs woke up on March 8 with Rantanen still on the roster and a deal not signed, the player would’ve had all the bargaining power.

I’m genuinely not sure if Rantanen is ever going to figure it out this season. He felt like he was on top of the world a month ago. He was second in the league in points behind his linemate Nathan MacKinnon and well on his way to a league-altering extension.

Now? He’s playing three minutes less per game on a team and in a system that isn’t quite working for him yet. He’s no longer playing with MacKinnon or Cale Makar and he’s trying to overcome the emotions of this entire ordeal while still producing so he doesn’t cost himself money on his next contract.

There’s a lot of pressure.