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Plenty. Bad goaltending is bad. I've seen less rebounds at a NBA game. He fought the puck all night.

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Didnt mean to come out firing at ya, sorry, but i will give ya the 2nd goal, but the first with Fischer was eh... Big question, who goes out of the 3??? I guess its a nice problem to have???
 

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Peters goaltending was terrible for the first half of the game. He was giving up tons of bad rebounds and was battling just to stop routine saves. Maybe the Peters sucks chant got into his head. That second goal was all on him. He had no business giving up a rebound there, then ends up backwards and in the net scrambling to find the puck. The defense didn't clear, but Peters went full Pejorative Slur there.

After that goal he looked like a completely different goaltender. He stopped two breakaways and was a puck magnet. It really was night and day.
 

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Didnt mean to come out firing at ya, sorry, but i will give ya the 2nd goal, but the first with Fischer was eh... Big question, who goes out of the 3??? I guess its a nice problem to have???

No problem. I am more of a lurker than a poster. :)

Sometimes you win because of your goalie. Sometimes you win in spite of your goalie. I don't condemn Peters necessarily for the goals he allowed... more for the goals he COULD have allowed based on the juicy rebounds. We were just lucky that we were a step faster as a team last night.

I agree it is a good problem to have. In a perfect world I think we keep Pete Dawg and ship Anton (for the bigger return). Can Cam stay healthy enough to limit Peters' starts?
 

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I agree it is a good problem to have. In a perfect world I think we keep Pete Dawg and ship Anton (for the bigger return). Can Cam stay healthy enough to limit Peters' starts?

I am of the opposite opinion. I don't think you get enough of a return on either Peters or Khodobin for that to weigh into your decision. I'd get what I can from Peters while he is playing well and keep Khodobin. I realize he doesn't have a huge body of work, but to me he seems more fundamentally sound, a better athlete, anticipates and reads plays better, and has better rebound control.
 

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I am of the opposite opinion. I don't think you get enough of a return on either Peters or Khodobin for that to weigh into your decision. I'd get what I can from Peters while he is playing well and keep Khodobin. I realize he doesn't have a huge body of work, but to me he seems more fundamentally sound, a better athlete, anticipates and reads plays better, and has better rebound control.

Agree. Peters has a long history of sucking; Khudobin doesn't. If we trade Khudobin we'll be right back to where we were a year ago.
 

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Khudobin doesn't have a long history of anything. All we've got from him is how he's played behind Boston's defense.

And Tim Thomas will tell you there's a difference between Boston's defense and almost every other one out there.
 

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Khudobin doesn't have a long history of anything. All we've got from him is how he's played behind Boston's defense.

And Tim Thomas will tell you there's a difference between Boston's defense and almost every other one out there.
Maybe Thomas would be putting up good numbers in Florida if he wasn't 39 and didn't skip a year.

Also, Thomas' sv% this year is still better than Peters' career sv%. lol

Khudobin is 6-1 with a .946sv% with Minnesota/Carolina, btw.
 

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I guess it depends on how you look at it. Peters does have that history, but he's also the only one we know is playing well NOW. Khudobin's entire career (all 20 games of it) has been played behind some really stingy defensive systems (and yes, that includes Minnesota). There's no telling how he'd play here.

Frankly, if there's a significant difference in the possible return between trading Anton over trading Peters, you've got to trade Anton.
 

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Frankly, if there's a significant difference in the possible return between trading Anton over trading Peters, you've got to trade Anton.

I honestly doubt there will be much difference in the return, but even if there was, I disagree. Peters is hot now and that's great, but I still think watching the two play that I'd prefer Khodobin as the back-up.
 

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How anyone thought Peters didn't look terrible tonight is beyond me, particularly the guy that said "How much hockey have you watched???" :laugh:. Those 2 odd man rush saves he made were huge though, so I'll give him credit there. Nashville is just not good (at least last night). That game could have gotten out of hand if they had any sustained pressure. Peters was on the verge of getting chased, they just couldn't finish it.

Still not seeing much "chemistry" with EStaal and Skinner, but hell if I'd want to see that line broken up at this point. Seems like Skinner always plays well with Ruutu and Ruutu always plays well with Eric, so let it ride. I absolutely love watching Jordan play. Really hoping Gerbe finds somewhere comfortable, he's looked a bit lost out there lately.
 
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I don't know what the consequences are of just keeping three goaltenders or if they even can but that's what I'd do considering the injury situation with Ward and Khudobin right now. the return for Khudobin or Peters is probably not that significant.
 

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Can you believe it that we finally sign legit and capable backup and most people want him gone just because Justin "Small sample size" Peters won a couple of games? Despite the record, Peters is among the worst goaltenders in the league. His rebound control is beyond pathethic. I couldn't care less if we lose him via waivers. But he's not even close to Khudobin. Another nepotism on the horizont it's seems.
 

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I don't know what the consequences are of just keeping three goaltenders or if they even can but that's what I'd do considering the injury situation with Ward and Khudobin right now. the return for Khudobin or Peters is probably not that significant.

They can carry three goalies, provided they have the open space on the 23-man roster. The Canes usually do have that space, but it could be complicated by guys coming back off IR. If I'm counting correctly, they would need to send someone to the minors when either Bellemore or Semin came back. That could be a goalie or it could be Lindholm, or some other player that would need to clear waivers (Komi?).

Basically it's yet another case where it would really help not to have Westgarth around taking up space.
 

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I'm pretty sure Komisarek has a NMC, so can't be waived/sent down.

They could always waive / send Westgarth down though. He doesn't have any sort of NMC.
 

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Can you believe it that we finally sign legit and capable backup and most people want him gone just because Justin "Small sample size" Peters won a couple of games? Despite the record, Peters is among the worst goaltenders in the league. His rebound control is beyond pathethic. I couldn't care less if we lose him via waivers. But he's not even close to Khudobin. Another nepotism on the horizont it's seems.

Right, Justin Peters's 14 games this year is a small sample size, but Khudobin with his 20 career games over 3 years is much better.

It's real simple: This play from Peters is the longest stretch of competent backup goaltending we've had since...Ward in 06. He might keep it up, he might not.

But I'd rather not risk the only sign of competent backup goaltending in almost a decade for the chance that Khudobin might replicate Peter's success so far.

Now, like I said, if the difference in return is minimal, keep Khudobin. But if the difference is noticeable? Peters it is.
 

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Peters has had maybe 2 really good games in this stretch. His numbers look good because the defense would help him out in the slot in most games.

If Anton is healthy, I think you have to go with him. I also doubt Anton's trade value when he hasn't even really played this year and off an injury.

Neither are bringing some big return.
 

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Can you believe it that we finally sign legit and capable backup and most people want him gone just because Justin "Small sample size" Peters won a couple of games? Despite the record, Peters is among the worst goaltenders in the league. His rebound control is beyond pathethic. I couldn't care less if we lose him via waivers. But he's not even close to Khudobin. Another nepotism on the horizont it's seems.

Oh trust me... I would MUCH rather have Khudobin. He is by far the better netminder both athletically and fundamentally. But my hope is that we might actually get a player for Anton (3rd or 4th liner he may be). I doubt we get anything more than a late round pick for Peters. For a backup goalie, I'd keep Peters if trading Anton brings us someone who can get us that point we'll inevitably be lacking come game 82.
 

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Right, Justin Peters's 14 games this year is a small sample size, but Khudobin with his 20 career games over 3 years is much better.

It's real simple: This play from Peters is the longest stretch of competent backup goaltending we've had since...Ward in 06. He might keep it up, he might not.

But I'd rather not risk the only sign of competent backup goaltending in almost a decade for the chance that Khudobin might replicate Peter's success so far.

Now, like I said, if the difference in return is minimal, keep Khudobin. But if the difference is noticeable? Peters it is.

:facepalm: I'd love for Peters to have become a solid backup, he has not.
 

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Good win. Great game to watch and congrats to Skinner getting his first career hat trick.
Peters has stepped in as a 3rd stringer and has done a really good job in that respect. He has had some good games and some bad ones. I believe he has played better this year than last. However, Khudo is our guy that we signed and we have to go with him. The team looked great playing in front of him before he went down.

Thank you Peters for all you have done, but when Khudo gets back, I want him in goal.
 

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The market for either guy is small. Multiple teams being interested might bring it from a fourth rounder to a third. We aren't getting a return worth noting from either one. It is a waste to lose either to waivers so they should do it, I just think we shouldn't even bother getting worked up over the return. Unless they are packaged in a bigger deal they'll bring back a lower pick or an ahl'er. Or both.
 

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You've got to be kidding me. JR...

Meh.. My guess is Komisarek didn't want to risk going to team that would bury him in the minors like Toronto did. Given that he's signed for only 1 year at $700K, I don't have much of a problem with a NMC. Like I said, if they need a roster spot, they can always waive Westgarth or even send Lindholm down since he isn't playing much.
 

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So I've got all the pics done except the Bobs and Lawrence. I'll just skip those, because I'm lazy.


However, imgur is over capacity, so it'll be a little bit.:laugh:
 

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The market for either guy is small. Multiple teams being interested might bring it from a fourth rounder to a third. We aren't getting a return worth noting from either one. It is a waste to lose either to waivers so they should do it, I just think we shouldn't even bother getting worked up over the return. Unless they are packaged in a bigger deal they'll bring back a lower pick or an ahl'er. Or both.

Pretty sure it's guaranteed Peters will be involved in a package deal, unless he continues to showcase his "talents" like he did last night.
 

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