Carolina 2nd in the Metro Just Downgraded at the Deadline

[Osakahaus]

Carolina literally should've traded for a goalie again. They're not gonna go far with Kochetkov/Anderson at all. Team just desperately lacks that actual killer instinct

Also Stankoven fits that teams philosophy way more than Rantanen, which is weird.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

mikko jankowski

 

[canuckslover10]

Damn Tulsky really just Moneyballed us lol.

 

[LakeLivin]

There are very few sure things when it comes to big trades. A player like Rantanen almost never becomes available. I have no doubt The Borg (the committee structure Canes use instead of the typical NHL mostly "siloed" approach) did a cost/ risk/ benefit analysis which factored in the potential long term benefit of Rants as a Cane (could be franchise changing), the odds of extending Rants (given the information they had at the time), the potential benefit for a Cup run, the likely situation with Necas going forward, and the off ramp if things went south. They did the calculation and decided that it was worth a shot to make the trade, knowing it wasn't a given that he'd extend. It didn't hit, but the cost for taking the shot was discounted by the return they got when it became clear it wasn't going to work out. That fits in with the Borg's very public philosophy that they're not afraid to take chances and are willing to accept some Ls as long as they're sufficiently outnumbered by Ws.

I get that many here either don't understand such a philosophy or don't agree with it; some Canes fans feel the same. But the majority of us are not only happy with what the Borg has done to turn the franchise around but very optimistic about how they've got the Canes positioned going forward.

#hatersgonnahate

 

[the halleJOKEL]

9-1 in past 10 and new guys fitting in nicely

big downgrade

 

[Mr Nogatco]

There are very few sure things when it comes to big trades. A player like Rantanen almost never becomes available. I have no doubt The Borg (the committee structure Canes use instead of the typical NHL mostly "siloed" approach) did a cost/ risk/ benefit analysis which factored in the potential long term benefit of Rants as a Cane (could be franchise changing), the odds of extending Rants (given the information they had at the time), the potential benefit for a Cup run, the likely situation with Necas going forward, and the off ramp if things went south. They did the calculation and decided that it was worth a shot to make the trade, knowing it wasn't a given that he'd extend. It didn't hit, but the cost for taking the shot was discounted by the return they got when it became clear it wasn't going to work out. That fits in with the Borg's very public philosophy that they're not afraid to take chances and are willing to accept some Ls as long as they're sufficiently outnumbered by Ws.

I get that many here either don't understand such a philosophy or don't agree with it; some Canes fans feel the same. But the majority of us are not only happy with what the Borg has done to turn the franchise around but very optimistic about how they've got the Canes positioned going forward.

#hatersgonnahate

Why is called The Borg?

 

[olli]

Rantanen doesn’t really need to be apart of this convo. He didn’t really fit their system and he clearly wasn’t going to sign there. At the end of the day they started with Necas, Drury and a 2nd and they now have Hall, Stankoven, 2 1sts and 2 3rds. That is incredibly good value for that package. Canes fans would’ve been very happy if Necas+ Drury and a 2nd had been traded for that instead of Rantanen originally. However obviously the team is still worse for the rest of this season than what it could’ve been with either Necas and Drury or with Rantanen. We won’t know the full extent yet f the trade tree until we see what those picks turn into or more likely what the majority of them are traded for. Overall im pretty bullish on Carolina’s Future as a legit contender for the next 5 years but this year I don’t see them beating Tampa or Florida in the east but I didn’t see them doing with Necas or Rantanen either.

 

[The S5]

I still don't understand the narrative about the Canes system. Is it the one where Rod expects his players to be responsible? Play hard? Forecheck? Not turning pucks over at the blue line?
Seems like Necas developed very well in that system. The guy was a turnover machine his first few seasons. How about Jarvis? He's thriving and is the farthest thing from a fourth line grinder.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

I still don't understand the narrative about the Canes system. Is it the one where Rod expects his players to be responsible? Play hard? Forecheck? Not turning pucks over at the blue line?
Seems like Necas developed very well in that system. The guy was a turnover machine his first few seasons. How about Jarvis? He's thriving and is the farthest thing from a fourth line grinder.

I think it's mostly about limiting minutes which star players don't usually like. It might also be a little bit stifling the creativity of the players.

I think it makes Carolina a strong team, but not an attractive team for star players.