I don’t know about overrated. I feel like most people put him in the top 10 best goalies of the 21st century, probably outside the top 5 (Brodeur, Lundqvist, Vasilevskiy, Fleury, Bobrovsky, Luongo ahead), then it’s pretty close with the likes of Hellebuyck, Miller, Vokoun, Thomas, Rask, Rinne
Carey Price or Connor Hellebuyck
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tarheelhockey
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This feels about right to me. They are very even. The tiebreaker in my mind is that Price had a couple of stretches where he really elevated to meet the moment. Hellebuyck has a lot of career left to have that moment, but we have to wait and see.
and that’s before this season so i guess if it was redone now that Hellebuyck gets his third vezina and is a lock for hart finalist, maybe even wins it. He probably edges him
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Hellebuyck is close. Tremendous goalie.
The difference between Price and any goalie in the NHL now, or likely in the future is his ceiling/when he's on is above any current goalie when they're on.
Guy was ridiculous and took meh teams and all of a sudden they were a very good team in the league.
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In his last 7 seasons, Price was the most dominant goalie in the playoffs, while getting the lowest offensive support:
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Price but, subject to change if Hellebuyck can do something in the playoffs.
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Close one but its Price for me. He had several playoff runs with average teams at best. Plus all the international Golds.
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Their stats are close. You could say advantage to Hellebyuck.
Price was better in the playoffs, and had less support from his team. That's advantage Price.
But the eye test is advantage Price, all the way. The numbers just can't tell you who this player was. Carey Price WAS the Habs for a number of years. He would routinely be the best player on the ice for either team, even in games when MTL lost. They could have re-named the team the Montreal CareyPrice-iens.
Price was better in the playoffs, and had less support from his team. That's advantage Price.
But the eye test is advantage Price, all the way. The numbers just can't tell you who this player was. Carey Price WAS the Habs for a number of years. He would routinely be the best player on the ice for either team, even in games when MTL lost. They could have re-named the team the Montreal CareyPrice-iens.
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ManofSteel55
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Price. Helle is the best goalie in the world today, but still doesn't touch Price at his peak. Longevity might pull him in front eventually, especially with some playoff success, but Price's prime was at a different level than we've seen from Helle so far.
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This season would push Hellebucyk ahead.
A third Vezina seals it. A strong playoff run would push Hellebucyk into the 15+ category.
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Price was a monster in the playoffs, the numbers he put up with the shit habs teams he had are unfathomable, can't think of many goalies having done that.
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Jonathan quick cant hear you. His stanley cup rings are plugging his ears
Price drug a non playoff team to the final, helly can’t even drag a contender through the playoffs at all.
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Numbers are similar but you've gotta take into consideration that scoring has increased significantly during Hellebuyck's prime compared to Price's.
The mid 2010s were scoring hell. There was a four season span where there were three total players with a 90 point season. As in three over that entire four years, not three per season.
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Yeah Helleybuck being in MVP talks in this high scoring league when no other goalie is really close is pretty impressive
Sorry, I ninja edited this part. Which is crazy to consider:
"The mid 2010s were scoring hell. There was a four season span where there were three total players with a 90 point season. As in three over that entire four years, not three per season."
Yes I understand but both price and Helle have had dogshit D in front of them. The difference maker is goal support
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Prime Price is better...but the overall career favors Hellebuyck, so far.
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Yup and price notoriously had good playoff numbers.
International, playoffs - anytime the game was on the line he was absolute money. That should count for something - Helle still has to prove himself there
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There's no question that Price was a much better goaltender than Hellebuyck.
Hellebuyck is very good, but Price is one of the very best ever. Sublime talent.
Hellebuyck is very good, but Price is one of the very best ever. Sublime talent.
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Are there seriously people here who would take Hellebuyck over Price in the playoffs, a tournament or in a winner takes all game.
Call me when Hellebuyck can get out of the first round, until then this isn't even a debate (yes I know Helle's first playoff run got to the 3rd round, good job).
Call me when Hellebuyck can get out of the first round, until then this isn't even a debate (yes I know Helle's first playoff run got to the 3rd round, good job).
