Have Connor Hellebuyck surpassed Carey Price at this point based on accolades alone or he still needs a dominant playoffs run ?
Carey Price or Connor Hellebuyck
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The Gr8 Dane
L'harceleur
It's close , Not mad if people want to put Helle ahead of price.
Price definitely wins the *but he did it on a dogshit team* argument though.
Helleybucks season might even surpass Price's MVP this year if he wins the MVP.... in a higher scoring environment as well
Helleybuck is the better goalie. Doesn’t mean Price wasn’t elite. But in my books Helley is the GOAT in terms of what he can do against the players of today.
Come on man, with that logic it’d mean Price is better than Roy, Brodeur, etc.
One season doesn’t make a career. You could argue he have the highest peak of the two, even though after this season it’ll most likely be debatable, but Hellebuyck already win on career and prime.
Peak: Right now Price
Prime: Hellebuyck
Career: Hellebuyck
Playoffs: Right now Price
I guess it depends how much you value each one
Hellebuyck is way better than Price, who is probably the single most overrated goalie ever.
...hasn't done shyte in the Playoffs yet...that's what's holding him back...
His 2017-18 run is better than any Price run outside of 2020-21 tbh…
I still think Price have the better playoffs career , but let’s not act like he have a crazy playoffs career either…
Zero issue with people choosing Helle as long as we can all agree these guys are on another level. Love a good faith poll
...Price carried teams that had no business IN the Playoffs most of his career...until Hellebuyck does that, I'm sticking with Price...
Tkachuk Norris
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Look at their playoff careers. This isn’t even close. Price carried a terrible Habs team for years.
Do Make Say Think
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Price is one of the most overrated goalies ever
If he has the same career in Nashville, nobody would care about him
Same with Lundqvist
If he has the same career in Nashville, nobody would care about him
Same with Lundqvist
Romang67
BitterSwede
Price was largely an exceptional playoff goaltender. Hellebuyck hasn't been yet. At some point the regular season accolades will probably outweigh the difference in playoff performances (or Hellebuyck could have a great playoff run, which I would prefer), but I don't think we've hit that point yet.
People vastly underestimate how bad the post-D-exodus Winnipeg Jets were. The 2019 Jets finished with 99 points, and lost Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers, and Chiarot, and replaced them with Pionk and various #7-9 D-men. For all intents and purposes, they lost Morrissey too, as he was going through off-ice issues (sick dad) which resulted in his worst season as a pro.
BigBadBruins7708
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Goal support is the key here. Jets have always had good offensive forwards. Habs played to win 1-0 every night
Romang67
BitterSwede
No, he was. Despite those four playoffs, only a handful goalies in the history of the league comes close to his combination of games played in the playoffs and his playoff save percentage.
Mostly because in the 6 other playoff runs you left out, he never finished with a lower than .919 save percentage, and had 3 runs with a >.930 save percentage.
Romang67
BitterSwede
Yeah, but their defense was absolutely dogshit. Their top 6 consisted of four of the worst defensive forwards in the league, plus Ehlers and Wheeler, who were okay.
Exactly. Until Hellybuck shows up in the playoffs he isn't in the same league as Price.
The “he did it on shit teams” argument have always been so weird to me and it’s mostly a thing for modern goalies. Like literally no one says things like “Tomas Vokoun is better than Patrick Roy because he carried teams that sucked”.
KrisLetAngry
MrJukeBoy
If Hellebuyck wins a cup I may have to sit down and make a decision.
Give me Price if I want a goalie.
Give me Price if I want a goalie.
Romang67
BitterSwede
I have some unfortunate news for you about Price, and in general about goaltenders for Canadian teams since 1992.
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For what it's worth - in the recently completed Top 60 Goaltenders of All-Time project in the History forum, they were ranked right after each other on the list. Price was 21st, Hellebuyck was 22nd.
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