GDT: CARCHI

[bleedgreen]

Jesus, this is the social media equivalent of saying she deserved the sexual assault for wearing sexy clothes.

Like, this says more about you than her. A lot more.

Double whatev’s.

 

[Lempo]

If I was an aspiring ugly girl professional sports reporter, I probably would make an issue of unfair competition.

Obvious question there is though: are there any, and if not, why not? The answer is probably somewhat obvious too.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I don't think the selfies, intentionally sexy or otherwise, irks people as much as does what euphenistically is called "political commentary", which I believe are her posts getting most flak.

I personally don't wish social media accounts associated with my sports team actively delve with non-sports-related societal issues known to be controversial and raise ado. It's a part of bigger social media issue where bloggers namely blogging of something else nowadays exceedingly want to use their blog for overtly soapboxing on stuff of their personal political interest.

I honestly don't care all that much, because the reality of reporting in 2019 is building a personal brand. It's an industry where the old institutions have largely collapsed and tens of thousands of people were thrown out on their asses with nowhere to go. Every single person in journalism is 5 minutes from looking for opportunities at a startup. The antidote to that is to act less like a company employee, and more like a celebrity who has market value in his/her own right.

The issue I do have with Sara's personal/political content is that she defends it by pulling the "this is my personal account, not an official account" card. She knows perfectly well that she's dovetailing the two. It's very much a case of provoking her audience, then asking out loud why they're so provoked. To me, there's a lack of maturity going on there, and I expect she'll eventually end up spending a good chunk of her career trying to walk it back.

 

[RibFrabcus]

I don't tweet much at all, but do follow certain people, including Sara, so that I can stay up to date on things. I do see a LOT of what you say, people nit picking a lot of her posts and many times, it's seemingly uncalled for. What I don't know, is how much of that (the nitpicking, not "mansplaining idiots") is because of the reasons you laid out or, or because of how much she tweets and what she tweets. Not dismissing what you said, I just don't read that many replies and don't follow enough people to know.

Guys like Mike Smith and Chip Alexander seemingly rarely get it, but frankly, they are pretty vanilla and boring in what they post all together so I don't expect it. A guy like Adam Gold, otoh, tends to get **** a lot because he's a more colorful character and tweets things that are a bit more controversial, opinionated and even contrarian from time to time. Sara, to me, kind of falls closer to Gold IMO. She tweets on a LOT of stuff, some of which is controversial and opinionated, so she gets more replies (thus more idiots replying) and more people (not idiots) disagreeing with it as well. I'm sure there's a an element of what you say, people resenting her because of who she is and the job she got as we've even seen that to an extent on our own board, but I can't always tell how much of it is due to that.

I try to ignore, or at least gloss over, most of what she tweets simply because I have no interest in it if it isn't directly related to the Canes, but I do like her coverage of the Canes, even if it's not as in depth as I'd like. Maybe it's because it's been years of really just Chip Alexander covering them with an occasional drive-by from Luke, that it's refreshing to see someone actually trying to get more insight and providing more coverage on things so I admit, my view could be skewed because it's just "more coverage", but so far, I tend to like her coverage for the most part. I still would like even more in depth and even critical, analysis and coverage of the Canes, but 1) The Canes haven't had much to complain about since she started covering them and 2) I do get that she needs to build up a relationship with the team so that she can get anything so she can't go in guns blazing. Will be interesting to see (if she sticks around) how the coverage evolves over time, particularly when the road for the Canes gets a little rougher.

I agree. For the most part, she's been a really good addition to the Canes beat. She recently signed a 2 year extension with the Athletic as well so she should be around for a bit.

 

[Lempo]

I honestly don't care all that much, because the reality of reporting in 2019 is building a personal brand. It's an industry where the old institutions have largely collapsed and tens of thousands of people were thrown out on their asses with nowhere to go. Every single person in journalism is 5 minutes from looking for opportunities at a startup. The antidote to that is to act less like a company employee, and more like a celebrity who has market value in his/her own right.

The issue I do have with Sara's personal/political content is that she defends it by pulling the "this is my personal account, not an official account" card. She knows perfectly well that she's dovetailing the two. It's very much a case of provoking her audience, then asking out loud why they're so provoked. To me, there's a lack of maturity going on there, and I expect she'll eventually end up spending a good chunk of her career trying to walk it back.

Two paragraphs, two extremely good points.

... and, with where ESPN has gone, it's not exactly easy to say that (semi-)intentionally building the personal brand of a politically active sports reporter would be a wrong choice.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

welp my pointing out the obvious about Sara's responses to people went well sideways. Now we are talking about scant clothes, misogynists, and social media etiquette.

Note to self: never bring up sara even in a joking manner about her posts. Noted.

 

[bleedgreen]

I honestly don't care all that much, because the reality of reporting in 2019 is building a personal brand. It's an industry where the old institutions have largely collapsed and tens of thousands of people were thrown out on their asses with nowhere to go. Every single person in journalism is 5 minutes from looking for opportunities at a startup. The antidote to that is to act less like a company employee, and more like a celebrity who has market value in his/her own right.

The issue I do have with Sara's personal/political content is that she defends it by pulling the "this is my personal account, not an official account" card. She knows perfectly well that she's dovetailing the two. It's very much a case of provoking her audience, then asking out loud why they're so provoked. To me, there's a lack of maturity going on there, and I expect she'll eventually end up spending a good chunk of her career trying to walk it back.

Bull’s eye. Well said.

 

[bleedgreen]

welp my pointing out the obvious about Sara's responses to people went well sideways. Now we are talking about scant clothes, misogynists, and social media etiquette.

Note to self: never bring up sara even in a joking manner about her posts. Noted.

You’re fine. I don’t think anyone’s emotional other than Svechhammer eclipsing my sun on his horse. It’s a good discussion?

 

[The Stranger]

Seriously though. I don’t believe in fashion oopsies from a woman like Sara, especially with social media. There’s a reason that’s her pic. She wants the arguments. She wants that guy to come and say something stupid so she can do what she does. She’s the defender of women in her field, she wants to show her hockey brain is as big as yours whether it is or not. This is her job, and she’s very social media savvy. After I looked at the pic for the I swear only the fourth time, I was honestly a little annoyed. I’m looking for something about my team I didn’t know, not sexual revolution or empowerment of anyone/anything. My personal opinions on her journalism are based on the first fifty things she wrote for us, which was long before I saw any pic.

Bob Mack is one of the only hockey figures I’ve ever seriously followed. If he was thirty years younger and his Twitter pic was a topless bathroom selfie showing off his abs I’d swipe left and move on with my day.

I don't think the selfies, intentionally sexy or otherwise, irks people as much as does what euphenistically is called "political commentary", which I believe are her posts getting most flak.

I personally don't wish social media accounts associated with my sports team actively delve with non-sports-related societal issues known to be controversial and raise ado. It's a part of bigger social media issue where bloggers namely blogging of something else nowadays exceedingly want to use their blog for overtly soapboxing on stuff of their personal political interest.

I honestly don't care all that much, because the reality of reporting in 2019 is building a personal brand. It's an industry where the old institutions have largely collapsed and tens of thousands of people were thrown out on their asses with nowhere to go. Every single person in journalism is 5 minutes from looking for opportunities at a startup. The antidote to that is to act less like a company employee, and more like a celebrity who has market value in his/her own right.

The issue I do have with Sara's personal/political content is that she defends it by pulling the "this is my personal account, not an official account" card. She knows perfectly well that she's dovetailing the two. It's very much a case of provoking her audience, then asking out loud why they're so provoked. To me, there's a lack of maturity going on there, and I expect she'll eventually end up spending a good chunk of her career trying to walk it back.

Speaking truth to power.

 

[Svechhammer]

I honestly don't care all that much, because the reality of reporting in 2019 is building a personal brand. It's an industry where the old institutions have largely collapsed and tens of thousands of people were thrown out on their asses with nowhere to go. Every single person in journalism is 5 minutes from looking for opportunities at a startup. The antidote to that is to act less like a company employee, and more like a celebrity who has market value in his/her own right.

The issue I do have with Sara's personal/political content is that she defends it by pulling the "this is my personal account, not an official account" card. She knows perfectly well that she's dovetailing the two. It's very much a case of provoking her audience, then asking out loud why they're so provoked. To me, there's a lack of maturity going on there, and I expect she'll eventually end up spending a good chunk of her career trying to walk it back.

Yep, both of these points.

Old stream journalism is dead. I hate the fact this is true, but it is. The more time goes by the more it seems that the only medium which will survive is online subscription based like ESPN+ and The Athletic. Everything else is seemingly circling the drain, some faster than others. The second that Sports Illustrated was sold to a firm more concerned with capitalizing on selling the SI brand than the content it produced, that was a death knell to the sports journalism old guard.

And to Sara's credit, more and more often the more 'popular' sites and stories tend to be the ones that talk more than just purely sports. Say what you want about Deadspin, but there's a reason why they became so popular, and became such a target for rich people to dice up and take down. The future of journalism, is going to dovetail heavily with social media and will trend toward what is not currently considered 'professional'. Its, as they say, what drives page clicks to the established online clientele, and page clicks drive ad revenue.

 

[Svechhammer]

You’re fine. I don’t think anyone’s emotional other than Svechhammer eclipsing my sun on his horse. It’s a good discussion?

Yes, the problem was with me, not you being a sexist piece of shit

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Fun

 

[bleedgreen]

Yes, the problem was with me, not you being a sexist piece of ****

Why am I a sexist pos? There’s nothing wrong with me admitting I think she’s hot and I looked at the pic. You clearly didn’t read the second post.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Buuuuuuuuusted.

Come for the hot takes. Stay for the subtle seduction via pooch.

I'm the worst offender here, with my half Aho/half horse avatar.

*****es love Aho and horses.

 

[Lempo]

This feels like a proper social media now, and not our usual Kumbaya-circle.

 

[Svechhammer]

Why am I a sexist pos? There’s nothing wrong with me admitting I think she’s hot and I looked at the pic. You clearly didn’t read the second post.

Oh I don't know.....

I honestly feel if she didn’t put sexy selfies as her pic on Twitter she may avoid some of that.

Half the time I gawk at the pic and don’t really pay that much attention to whatever she’s arguing about.

Maybe insinuating she deserves the flak for being pretty online. And then saying that her being pretty actively distracts you from anything she says.

 

[Lempo]

I'm the worst offender here, with my half Aho/half horse avatar.

*****es love Aho and horses.

I don't know... I'd think shirtless Aho on a horse would be more effective, than this... this.

 

[bleedgreen]

Oh I don't know.....



Maybe insinuating she deserves the flak for being pretty online. And then saying that her being pretty actively distracts you from anything she says.

Oh my god. The horse gets taller and taller. Like I already said I made up my mind about Sara’s writing on the Canes long before I ever saw any picture. I’ve only recently really seen them. All of last year I’m not even sure I knew what she looked like.

When she’s on a crusade I DONT usually read it because I feel there’s an agenda going on when I just want to read about the team. Sara is a very intelligent girl who knows what she’s doing.

She doesn’t “deserve” the flak. She wants the flak so she can use it. I don’t think she’d be remotely upset I find her distractingly pretty in those pics either. I don’t think she’d care I was too distracted to read because of it. She’d love to have me say she didn’t know what she was talking about so she could skewer me.

 

[tarheelhockey]

BTW, I really do wish Sara would pop up on HFCanes from time to time. Part of the issue is that Twitter simply is not a platform for in-depth discussion.

 

[Borsig]

Sara had sometimes good info, but I unfollowed her on the twit box.

She's a lackluster hockey writer, who interjects political bullshit at every opportunity. Political bullshit that I mostly am 180 degrees out of phase with her on. I fact, I cant stand her one f***ing bit, and the canes media would be better if she went back to Boston where she belonged.

She can go be political elsewhere. At least her defenders out themselves as people who usually, more often than not, hate people like me. And that's OK too.

She has ONE twitter feed. One. And it's had as much politics in it, as it has hockey. Frankly there is more personal crap in it. I already work around a bunch of people that parrot that same crap daily. I don't need it in my hockey.

She knows EXACTLY what she's doing. The same crap ESPN is/was does/ doing. Mixing politics and sports.

If you want good insight follow guys like Cory S, and canealytics, charting hockey, etc.

 

[bleedgreen]

BTW, I really do wish Sara would pop up on HFCanes from time to time. Part of the issue is that Twitter simply is not a platform for in-depth discussion.

You know she reads us. She’d love to be part of it I’m sure.

 

[tarheelhockey]

You know she reads us. She’d love to be part of it I’m sure.

I dunno, we're a bit of an acquired taste. I can imagine a newbie to the area looking at this and giving it a hard pass.

 

[Lempo]

I dunno, we're a bit of an acquired taste. I can imagine a newbie to the area looking at this and giving it a hard pass.

She literally quoted the Tom Dundon so cheap stuff a while back.

 

[Lempo]

... noting it keeps her "logging in".

 

[raynman]

Sara had sometimes good info, but I unfollowed her on the twit box.

She's a lackluster hockey writer, who interjects political bull**** at every opportunity. Political bull**** that I mostly am 180 degrees out of phase with her on. I fact, I cant stand her one ****ing bit, and the canes media would be better if she went back to Boston where she belonged.

She can go be political elsewhere. At least her defenders out themselves as people who usually, more often than not, hate people like me. And that's OK too.

She has ONE twitter feed. One. And it's had as much politics in it, as it has hockey. Frankly there is more personal crap in it. I already work around a bunch of people that parrot that same crap daily. I don't need it in my hockey.

She knows EXACTLY what she's doing. The same crap ESPN is/was does/ doing. Mixing politics and sports.

If you want good insight follow guys like Cory S, and canealytics, charting hockey, etc.

What if her political leanings were in tune with yours?