Almost as good as the tarheelshockey burn on the Cherepanov-avatar guy.Hahahahahahaha. You get the W for his detective work. Too funny. I don't know how that guy can show his face around these parts now. HOLY COW he got wrecked.
Confirmed Trade: [CAR/MIN] Nino Niederreiter for Victor Rask
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Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
On the other hand (lol), Carolinas cheap owner took on 5m more in salary, and gave Min 1.7m per in cap space
ITS STILL EARLY.
i'm going to be saying that for a couple years.
:'(
i'm going to be saying that for a couple years.
:'(
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Next: CZ SP-01 Tactical!
Uncle Scrooge
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Caught couple Wild games since the trade and man does Rask look slow out there. No wonder he's struggling. He looks like Laine the way he moves.
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huh? Nino is 22 points ahead of Rask right now on the season
that'd be a hell of a jump for 28 games for a guy that only has 8 points so far this year
Want to bet on that?
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You are predicting Nino with a season ending injury soon?
That's the only chance
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I, too, would like some free money
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Who would have ever guessed?
Oh, yeah. Just everyone who can interpret statistics at any level. Most of those who watch hockey, too.
Oh, yeah. Just everyone who can interpret statistics at any level. Most of those who watch hockey, too.
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Even then he would have to be close to a ppg... just a little off his current production.
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Rask is more like a future NHL washout former Cane in 2-3 seasons rather than one of those former Canes who goes on to have a career resurgence on a new team. I've said it for a quite awhile now, he's seriously one of the worst players in the NHL now. Even if he goes back to Europe, he'll be in the Allsvenskan (or some other low tier league) sooner or later. Just a brutally bad hockey player who doesn't even seem to give a shit.
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I'm a fan of Rask. I hope he can turn it around...if not this season....hope he gets a good off-season and comes back strong next year. Would like to see a win/win.
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Is it called a whiff even if you shouldn't have been swinging in the first place?
What Niederreiter is doing in Carolina should be an irrelevant consideration for the Wild, particularly when he's in such a favorable situation (EV next to a center producing at a high end level + 1st PP minutes). Lindholm's performance in Calgary doesn't have meaning for my evaluation of the trade with Calgary. HF, which is obsessed with declaring winners and losers, will make a big deal out of it, but you have to be more pragmatic in evaluating the decision making behind these trades; it's not as if Waddell called up Fenton and talked him into it. The pertinent questions to answer are:
1. Are the Wild better off with Rask and the $1.25 mil in cap instead of Niederreiter?
2. It's clear that the league viewed Nino as a cap dump; could he have bounced back in Minnesota, thus opening the door for a better return at a point in the future?
That defines the Minneosta perspective on this one. Trades aren't zero-sum. If one team wins big, it doesn't mean that the other lost big.
1. Are the Wild better off with Rask and the $1.25 mil in cap instead of Niederreiter?
2. It's clear that the league viewed Nino as a cap dump; could he have bounced back in Minnesota, thus opening the door for a better return at a point in the future?
That defines the Minneosta perspective on this one. Trades aren't zero-sum. If one team wins big, it doesn't mean that the other lost big.
most Wild fans knew WHY we did it and could agree it made sense even if it's pretty obvious which player was better despite both slumping. Had Rask looked better than Koivu, or Staal, or even Coyle (who is better at wing) it would be an easier pill to swallow but so far he doesn't look like he's capable of that, and as part of the rationale for the trade was getting a viable option at center in the system for when Staal and Koivu age out this trade looks worse. Nino's production is irrelevant, but the fact that he had a markedly better track record and a much greater chance of turning it around than Rask its safe to say the Wild didn't win at all on this one. We would have been better served trading him for draft picks.
1.) No, unless Fenton turns that $1.25m into a unicorn.
2.) At the very least Fenton could have hung onto him until the summer, when cap considerations are looser if not irrelevant. At the very least Carolina still would have been game to make this trade then. There was nothing to lose by waiting except half a season of Victor Rask, which... yeah.
Rask doesn't need to score more or even be better overall than Nino for this to work out for Minnesota, but he does need to be more than a 4th line center making $4m to score 20 points.
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