Confirmed Trade: [CAR/COL/CHI] Mikko Rantanen (50%), Taylor Hall, Nils Juntorp to CAR; Martin Necas, Jack Drury, '25 2nd, '26 4th to COL; '25 3rd to CHI for retention

[Sasha Orlov]

Don’t get it at all for Colorado, sure Rantanen could walk but the downgrade from him to Necas is massive

Why not just go for it?

 

[thefutures]

Wonder how mackinnon feels. Imagine taking less than market value while being a top 3 player in the league, and they still end up trading your best forward teammate due to cap reasons.

 

[BB88]

I think he can if the 2nd and 3rd pieces are better.

The amazing part (or weird) is that Carolina kept all their 1st round picks

It reminds just too much of a Rantanen for Necas trade and they are completely different caliber players

& the excuse sounds awfully lot like the ones in Hall for Larsson trade

 

[Goal Caufield50]

You don’t extend a window by overpaying a guy like Rantanen in his 30’s either. Phenomenal value at $9m. At $14 it’s questionable.

this is a good choice to acquire two good players at 24 and 26 years of age. paying rants 14 is a bad idea when you have two other stars to pay

 

[Daz28]

Why would a coach play a guy, that is used to 18 mins a night 25 mins in his first game less than 24 hours of being traded. Didn't watch the whole game, but could be a reason he was -3.

 

[Kiekura]

Wonder how mackinnon feels. Imagine taking less than market value while being a top 3 player in the league, and they still end up trading your best forward teammate due to cap reasons.

I mean he already said he would have not give a f*** if Mikko was earning more than him. Dude is devasted

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The amazing part (or weird) is that Carolina kept all their 1st round picks

It reminds just too much of a Rantanen for Necas trade and they are completely different caliber players

& the excuse sounds awfully lot like the ones in Hall for Larsson trade

Yeah, crazy that the 2nd isn't at least conditional on making the ECF or something.

 

[mouser]

Just for my own curiosity where does the 1.26 figure come from? I thought it would be closer to 1/2 x 33/82 x 6 but I was just guessing.

I’d like to know how it’s actually calculated. Do I have the games remaining wrong?

It goes by % of days remaining in the season. There are 192 days this season. I used 81 days remaining when calculating (could be off by a day here depending on trade timing)

81/192 days * $6m Salary * 50% retention = $1,265,625

 

[StreetHawk]

this is a good choice to acquire two good players at 24 and 26 years of age. paying rants 14 is a bad idea when you have two other stars to pay

Mack is locked in. So Avs know that number. Makar is at $9 mill for 2 more seasons after this. Then it will jump big.
Will see maybe as early as July if Necas extends what cap savings the Avs get.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Mack is locked in. So Avs know that number. Makar is at $9 mill for 2 more seasons after this. Then it will jump big.
Will see maybe as early as July if Necas extends what cap savings the Avs get.

I actually don't think there's a reasonable number that Necas signs for where I flip and like it for the Avs.

Necas at $9M and Rantanen at $14M, I'm pretty sure I'd still rather pay the extra $5M. Maybe Necas at $7M gets me thinking, but I think that's probably way too low.

 

[SensontheRush]

Hate this trade for both the Canes and Aves.

 

[Kiekura]

I actually don't think there's a reasonable number that Necas signs for where I flip and like it for the Avs.

Necas at $9M and Rantanen at $14M, I'm pretty sure I'd still rather pay the extra $5M. Maybe Necas at $7M gets me thinking, but I think that's probably way too low.

”
My understanding is that Rantanen was willing to take less than what a July 1 market number looked like to stay in Colorado, but even so, his number was not in the same realm as where the Avs were.

Meaning, I don’t think Rantanen was stuck at $14 million a year. He would have taken less to stay in Denver. But I would imagine even being around the $12.6 million MacKinnon average annual value was seen as too much by the Avs.”

LeBrun: Unpacking the Mikko Rantanen trade — a rare NHL in-season blockbuster

Where does the NHL's biggest in-season trade in decades leave the Canes, Avs and Blackhawks ... and the Canucks and Rangers? Let's dig in.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

”
My understanding is that Rantanen was willing to take less than what a July 1 market number looked like to stay in Colorado, but even so, his number was not in the same realm as where the Avs were.

Meaning, I don’t think Rantanen was stuck at $14 million a year. He would have taken less to stay in Denver. But I would imagine even being around the $12.6 million MacKinnon average annual value was seen as too much by the Avs.”

LeBrun: Unpacking the Mikko Rantanen trade — a rare NHL in-season blockbuster

Where does the NHL's biggest in-season trade in decades leave the Canes, Avs and Blackhawks ... and the Canucks and Rangers? Let's dig in.

www.nytimes.com

Man, if they balk at $12M-$13M for Rantanen but then give Necas ~$10M, that's going to be pretty funny.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Man, if they balk at $12M-$13M for Rantanen but then give Necas ~$10M, that's going to be pretty funny.

if drai is at $14m and has the same agent as rantanen i can't imagine rantanen would only get $12m. i think rantanen is probably getting $13.5m ish

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

if drai is at $14m and has the same agent as rantanen i can't imagine rantanen would only get $12m. i think rantanen is probably getting $13.5m ish

I was going by the article posted above me "being around the $12.6M MacKinnon AAV..."

 

[BB88]

”
My understanding is that Rantanen was willing to take less than what a July 1 market number looked like to stay in Colorado, but even so, his number was not in the same realm as where the Avs were.

Meaning, I don’t think Rantanen was stuck at $14 million a year. He would have taken less to stay in Denver. But I would imagine even being around the $12.6 million MacKinnon average annual value was seen as too much by the Avs.”

LeBrun: Unpacking the Mikko Rantanen trade — a rare NHL in-season blockbuster

Where does the NHL's biggest in-season trade in decades leave the Canes, Avs and Blackhawks ... and the Canucks and Rangers? Let's dig in.

www.nytimes.com

Oh no but Rantanen is the bad guy!

Wild to see the spin against the player

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I was going by the article posted above me "being around the $12.6M MacKinnon AAV..."

Won't happen though. I think 13 is the lowest it could possibly turn out. We'll all have the pitchforks out if he goes for less than 12.5 (though even then, it would cripple us)

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Won't happen though. I think 13 is the lowest it could possibly turn out. We'll all have the pitchforks out if he goes for less than 12.5 (though even then, it would cripple us)

Even still, my starting point was $14M and I didn't like the math, so anything below that sure doesn't help.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Even still, my starting point was $14M and I didn't like the math, so anything below that sure doesn't help.

Rock and a hard place situation. We couldn't win.

 

[AvatarAang]

Hate this trade for both the Canes and Aves.

The biggest loser for this trade is the Canucks.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

I actually don't think there's a reasonable number that Necas signs for where I flip and like it for the Avs.

Necas at $9M and Rantanen at $14M, I'm pretty sure I'd still rather pay the extra $5M. Maybe Necas at $7M gets me thinking, but I think that's probably way too low.

problem is you dont have the extra 5

 

[The don godfather]

I dont see the reason to trade mikko for necas and parts. The difference after the contract negotiations could be like 5 mil aav and mikko is elite pastrnak level. Doesnt make sense to me.

 

[authentic]

Can’t believe Rantanen left Colorado !!

 

[Canes]

Don’t get it at all for Colorado, sure Rantanen could walk but the downgrade from him to Necas is massive

Why not just go for it?

Already have a Cup and they’re trying to extend their window. Will it work? We’ll see but I get what they’re trying to do.

 

[BB88]

problem is you dont have the extra 5

Which is easier

To create cap space or acquire a legit superstar?

If Necas is as great as he is hyped here why isn’t he after Nylander money or Nylander money+?
The cap’s going up& he’d have 2 elite production seasons under his belt

This place is going to melt if/when he stays with Carolina for clearly less than all these Colorado fans were determined him to ask