GDT: CAR-CGY

[CanesUltimate11]

Someone needs to show these refs there is a holding the stick call in the rule book...

On second thought, stop calling penalties on Calgary, it’s less embarrassing for Carolina that way…

 

[Negan4Coach]

Burns is old as f*** but we still gotta give him some time. If he's playing this bad by this time next month, sure.. lay into him.

Wait wait wait I was told he was soooooo much of an improvement over TDA and how dare I suggest that a 37 year old replacing somebody 10 years younger was a bad idea OMG is the narrative shifting alreadyyyyy?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

It’s been 5 games and the narratives are starting. Geez

 

[surfzone365]

Win some, lose some. Not ideal but as long as we pace ourselves. Some home cooking coming up soon.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Wait wait wait I was told he was soooooo much of an improvement over TDA and how dare I suggest that a 37 year old replacing somebody 10 years younger was a bad idea OMG is the narrative shifting alreadyyyyy?

I mean, ya boy was bouncing back and forth with Ethan f***ing Bear for the spot he ultimately settled in beside Slavin early last year. Perhaps give your victory lap some time.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Some early thoughts:

Challenging last couple of games doesn’t surprise me as we are a team in transition with 2 new d pairs and 3 different lines

PP2 with Pesce at the point is horrid but it won’t improve unless Coughlin gets playing time or Rod/cough Daniels gets a responsible forward out here to lead

Patches will make a difference

Burns is still finding his way and I suspect will be much better on PP as the year goes on. Those trumpeting TDA seem to forget that he disappeared in the playoffs big time as teams didn’t fear his shot and his passes didn’t connect. Burns’ shot/size will payoff in the playoffs when big boy hockey is played

Calgary pushed us around in the 2nd and 3rd periods. Our guys will need to play heavier or that will be the playbook on us going forward.

Stasny is a slightly better Domi and having watched him the last few years was fearful that he would suck here. He has.

3rd and 4th lines will need improvement at the trade deadline (and/or give Drury a shot). Losing Kase hurt!!

Antii and Freddie both have been disappointments over last two games. Hopefully this is a one off.

 

[surfzone365]

I’d rather us finish 2nd or 3rd in the conference like the vast majority of Cup teams than be first flamers. As this team ages and matures I’m not expecting the hot 7-0 starts to the season. Never been one to over analyze the state of the team 5 games into the season.

 

[surfzone365]

It’s been 5 games and the narratives are starting. Geez

Not speaking for everyone but this fanbase in general is still new to winning. We set some pretty high benchmarks the last few years out of the gate. In the end those hot starts meant nothing unless you skate away with the Cup or have a super deep postseason run. Ebbs and flows not only in the current season at hand, but from year to year.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Also, we can make excuses all we want, but the fact of the matter is the team was up 2-0 early, let off the gas, let Calgary come back, and then had 6 minutes of power play time in the 3rd period of a tied game.

A team that wants to compete for the Stanley Cup finds a way to win that game.

Well hopefully this doesn't become a regular thing, but I'm not too worried yet.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Last year, the case PP was 22%. So far this season, the Canes PP is 21.1%.

Are people really flipping out or doing victory laps over a 0.9% difference only a handful of games in with a lot of new personnel? Too funny.

Also, the issue hasn’t been the regular season, it’s the playoffs. Canes pp dropped to 13% in the playoffs last year and the pk went from 88% to 74% in the playoffs. The season before they were only 18% and 76% in the playoffs.

I’d rather the team be like the 05/06 team where,IIRC, their special teams were average in the regular season but we’re great in the playoffs.

I’m going to give it a good number of games before getting too concerned.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Not speaking for everyone but this fanbase in general is still new to winning. We set some pretty high benchmarks the last few years out of the gate. In the end those hot starts meant nothing unless you skate away with the Cup or have a super deep postseason run. Ebbs and flows not only in the current season at hand, but from year to year.

Hey just because we've sucked for the better part 25 years, doesn't mean we're new to winning.

 

[surfzone365]

Hey just because we've sucked for the better part 25 years, doesn't mean we're new to winning.

With all that said, we lay an egg vs 0-4 Vancouver then I may go off the rails and sing the doom-and-gloom song of a lost season.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Last year, the case PP was 22%. So far this season, the Canes PP is 21.1%.

Are people really flipping out or doing victory laps over a 0.9% difference only a handful of games in with a lot of new personnel? Too funny.

Also, the issue hasn’t been the regular season, it’s the playoffs. Canes pp dropped to 13% in the playoffs last year and the pk went from 88% to 74% in the playoffs. The season before they were only 18% and 76% in the playoffs.

I’d rather the team be like the 05/06 team where,IIRC, their special teams were average in the regular season but we’re great in the playoffs.

I’m going to give it a good number of games before getting too concerned.

Add in we went from 21.2% after January first down to 15.8% after March 1st.

Burns isn’t hitting the net yet. We are okay so far.

With all that said, we lay an egg vs 0-4 Vancouver then I may go off the rails and sing the doom-and-gloom song of a lost season.

Speaking of doom-and-gloom, Vancouver media folks asking why they aren’t going into a rebuild. Rough.

 

[surfzone365]

Add in we went from 21.2% after January first down to 15.8% after March 1st.

Burns isn’t hitting the net yet. We are okay so far.


Speaking of doom-and-gloom, Vancouver media folks asking why they aren’t going into a rebuild. Rough.

Other than Buffalo, the Canucks fanbase has had a rough go of it the last couple decades. From Pres Trophy teams of the Sedin brothers falling flat in the postseason to straight up awful seasons and draft pick busts, they were at one point the Western Conf version of the Capitals.

 

[CupInSIX]

1 OT loss later...

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

TDA contributed right away last year and never stopped. I know, I know - Im a TDA fanboi and that just GRINDS some here. I think he might be one of the best PMD passers in the league right now (when it comes to his offensive side) - and we let him go when we basically found his RFA rights on the ground outside of a NY subway entrance, and instead decided to keep the lemon car we bought for 1.25 mil over MSRP that sits in the shop because it's a piece of shit, and no dealer will take it in on trade.
And that grinds the absolute shit out of me. It's one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen us make in the off season. You could have still had your 37 year old defenseman that was elite 5 years ago, and kept TDA. But you traded his rights for nothing. And yeah, as a person I like Burns. As a player, he is NOT showing what we needed on the PP, we still have no PP2 QB and he's no better than TDA defensively.

What we should have done is released the Bear into the woods, kept TDA as the pp1 QB, and made Burns pp2 QB. You could have found the 1.5M somewhere to do that. It's not hard.

Don't make excuses for Burns. If TDA would have made the same mistake(S) last year he would have been crucified and burned on the stake with a pile of firewood made from " I TOLD YOU SO's" at his feet. We f***ed up. I hope it works out, but Burns looks old and slow so far. Sorry, he does.

COME ON A BIT.

I THINK MOST HERE WARMED UP TO TDA FAIRLY QUICKLY.
HE PLAYED, HE PLAYED WELL, NO SHENANIGANS IN THE MIX.

For his sake as a player and a person I hope he keeps that trend.

 

[The Faulker 27]

1 OT loss later...

Was this done with Ai?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Imo, we added guys like Burns, Statsny, Kase were additions to improve in the playoffs, not necessarily the regular season.

Burns isn’t a defensive issue like TDA, he is also bigger and less likely to get pushed off the puck. TDA has quickness but is manhandled when the play slows and gets more physical.
Statsny. Another slower player but he scores in the dirty areas, something a lot of Canes players didn’t want to do. The play slows down in the playoffs, so the speed wont be as much of a concern.
Kase’s scoring charts are from right in front of the net. He scores from the dirty areas. He may not be physical in the hitting sense but he goes to the physical areas to score goals.

Either ways its been 5 games. Should’nt “panic” until game 16 or so.

 

[hblueridgegal]

Win some, lose some. Not ideal but as long as we pace ourselves. Some home cooking coming up soon.

I thought this was the plan this year..to Tampa it to the playoffs? Win enough to get there without excessive exhaustion and LTIR as much as possible?

I think the new old guy will find his way as familiarity increases. Not sure what we can do about his step slowness except have Slavin overcompensate. Every season he's always having to cover for a mate's weakness of some kind it seems.

It appears the ghost of Nino is haunting that 3rd line. Guess everyone isn't always automatically replaceable.

Based on last night's improved effort, looks like TT got the memo.

 

[surfzone365]

I thought this was the plan this year..to Tampa it to the playoffs? Win enough to get there without excessive exhaustion and LTIR as much as possible?

I think the new old guy will find his way as familiarity increases. Not sure what we can do about his step slowness except have Slavin overcompensate. Every season he's always having to cover for a mate's weakness of some kind it seems.

It appears the ghost of Nino is haunting that 3rd line. Guess everyone isn't always automatically replaceable.

Based on last night's improved effort, looks like TT got the memo.

Yeah, I believe so. Let’s get 4th in the East overall then whip everyone in the postseason.

Not only did Tampa take that approach, but the Kings, Blackhawks and Pens won cups by pacing the regular season.

 

[Identity404]

I seem to recall years ago when there were Pesce trade rumors there were rumblings of him being unhappy about his role. Particularly around his non usage on the PP.

My man, I love you, but you are an awful PP QB.

Am I remembering this correctly?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I seem to recall years ago when there were Pesce trade rumors there were rumblings of him being unhappy about his role. Particularly around his non usage on the PP.

My man, I love you, but you are an awful PP QB.

Am I remembering this correctly?

It wasn’t pp usage. He was relegated to the 3rd pairing thus the rumors of his unhappiness. Then he moved to the 2nd pairing on the left side with Faulk.

To be fair, Pesce never said anything publicly so we don’t know for sure what went on. The most concrete statement on it was Waddell after the season.

 

[Borsig]

I mean, ya boy was bouncing back and forth with Ethan f***ing Bear for the spot he ultimately settled in beside Slavin early last year. Perhaps give your victory lap some time.

Wait, did you seriously just compare TDA to Bear? LMFAO

 

[Negan4Coach]

Last year, the case PP was 22%. So far this season, the Canes PP is 21.1%.

Are people really flipping out or doing victory laps over a 0.9% difference only a handful of games in with a lot of new personnel? Too funny.

Also, the issue hasn’t been the regular season, it’s the playoffs. Canes pp dropped to 13% in the playoffs last year and the pk went from 88% to 74% in the playoffs. The season before they were only 18% and 76% in the playoffs.

I’d rather the team be like the 05/06 team where,IIRC, their special teams were average in the regular season but we’re great in the playoffs.

I’m going to give it a good number of games before getting too concerned.

Yeah, I mean let's keep it in perspective- the team just went 2-1-1 on a west coast/ Canada swing. 10 years ago it would have been 0-1-3, straight up

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Pesce on the PP is non-ideal in the grand scheme of things but was not the reason the PP stunk last night. No one could enter the zone, either unit. Ugly all around. Burn the tape and go to Vancouver and try to feast on a team that’s actually melting down.