GDT: CAR @ BOS Game 6: Welcome [Back] to the Hellmouth!

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Geez, expected conference/Cup finals? I think a lot of people underestimate how difficult it is to achieve that, even for top tier teams
It is difficult, but the team is good. We made it to at least the second round each of the last three seasons, then put together our best regular season ever. Even with the skid, ECF felt doable with the way the regular season ended. Maybe I wouldn't say expected, but I would say doable for this bunch.

This Jekyll and Hyde act needs to stop if we make it out of this round, though. And that's an if. Sooner or later, you have to start stealing some games on the road. We all know what the trend has been this series, but trends no longer matter when it's "win or go home" for both teams. When you get to the playoffs, you throw out the assumptions from the regular season. When you get to Game 7, you throw out the assumptions from the first six games.

Get your tickets and get loud, folks. Experience matters in games like the one on Saturday, and Boston still has a leg up on us in that department. The boys are going to do what they do to prepare, but the way we can help them counter is by blowing the roof off the building.
 
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It is difficult, but the team is good. We made it to at least the second round each of the last three seasons, then put together our best regular season ever. Even with the skid, ECF felt doable with the way the regular season ended. Maybe I wouldn't say expected, but I would say doable for this bunch.

This Jekyll and Hyde act needs to stop if we make it out of this round, though. And that's an if. Sooner or later, you have to start stealing some games on the road. We all know what the trend has been this series, but trends no longer matter when it's "win or go home" for both teams. When you get to the playoffs, you throw out the assumptions from the regular season. When you get to Game 7, you throw out the assumptions from the first six games.

Get your tickets and get loud, folks. Experience matters in games like the one on Saturday, and Boston still has a leg up on us in that department. The boys are going to do what they do to prepare, but the way we can help them counter is by blowing the roof off the building.
I agree completely.
 
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Same. Will miss the first period and maybe some of the 2nd. I get off at 5:30. That is if I even want to watch them. Boston players right now are confident they can pull this off because they have the momentum now.

Let's just hope the trend of home team winning every game continues for one more game. Although I am very disappointed in this team. How can they play so well at home and then horribly on the road? I would be less upset if the road wins were one goal losses but we are getting blown out of the building. We are nothing like the team that won 25 road games this year.

You can't rely on home ice throughout the playoffs, you can probably for ONE round but I'm sorry but you gotta win on the road too to be successful. ALA Tampa Bay in 2nd round last year. We had home ice that series AND LOST every home game.

This team right now is lacking the fire and heart to get it done. Some of the players said along with the coach that losing to Boston in the playoffs two of the last three years has really motivated them. I'm only seeing their fire at home. When they were down 3-1 I think it cut to the players on the bench and they did not look too confident that they'd come back.

So, Carolina, where is your motivation and fire of losing to Boston? You're in that position again now on Saturday. If we win all will be forgotten, if we lose it will not be.

Aho has been invisible. TT has been invisible. Where are our top guys this series? Our PP and PK has let us down in the playoffs again for the 4th straight year. If you can't score on a 5 on 3 for almost a minute in the playoffs you're not going anywhere. Too much passing the puck. Shoot it!

The bright side is that Boston does not have a road win yet either; I hope and pray that continues tomorrow because I do not want to be a part of the offseason if we don't win. I'm sure a lot of player changes will take place. Ownership won't be happy. Yes, it's nice going to the playoffs 4 straight years but when a team expects to win and doesn't get it done that's called FAILURE.

Another bright side is this team since relocation is 5-0 in Game 7's and 3 of those wins on the road and 2 at home although the last home wins in game 7 were 16 years ago during the Stanley Cup run.

But tomorrow Carolina needs to come out with fire. I mean they need to play like the season and their lives depend on it...because it will. The first 6 games will not matter to this point.

We can NOT expect a blow out tomorrow especially when it's a do or die game. I'm going to expect a 3-2 or 4-3 game or something like that. If it is another blow out I'd be surprised.

Whomever scores 1st tomorrow will more than likely win the game. Raanta will need to stand on his head again like he did in game 1 and game 5 because Boston has had strong starts each game in Raleigh and Raanta weathered the storm until we took over the game.

If Carolina loses I'll know them as the 'chokers' because they would have choked away a 2-0 series lead for the first time since 87 when they were the Hartford Whalers. All the other Carolina teams that lost a 2-0 lead won the series, but the difference in those teams was they could win games in a series on the road.

Saturday afternoon is time for the Hurricanes to live up to their nickname 'The Cardiac Canes.'

If they don't it will be a LONG and disappointing offseason.



Our franchise record winning season is in jeopardy of an early exit in the playoffs.
 
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Same. Will miss the first period and maybe some of the 2nd. I get off at 5:30. That is if I even want to watch them. Boston players right now are confident they can pull this off because they have the momentum now.

Let's just hope the trend of home team winning every game continues for one more game. Although I am very disappointed in this team. How can they play so well at home and then horribly on the road? I would be less upset if the road wins were one goal losses but we are getting blown out of the building. We are nothing like the team that won 25 road games this year.

You can't rely on home ice throughout the playoffs, you can probably for ONE round but I'm sorry but you gotta win on the road too to be successful. ALA Tampa Bay in 2nd round last year. We had home ice that series AND LOST every home game.

This team right now is lacking the fire and heart to get it done. Some of the players said along with the coach that losing to Boston in the playoffs two of the last three years has really motivated them. I'm only seeing their fire at home. When they were down 3-1 I think it cut to the players on the bench and they did not look too confident that they'd come back.

So, Carolina, where is your motivation and fire of losing to Boston? You're in that position again now on Saturday. If we win all will be forgotten, if we lose it will not be.

Aho has been invisible. TT has been invisible. Where are our top guys this series? Our PP and PK has let us down in the playoffs again for the 4th straight year. If you can't score on a 5 on 3 for almost a minute in the playoffs you're not going anywhere. Too much passing the puck. Shoot it!

The bright side is that Boston does not have a road win yet either; I hope and pray that continues tomorrow because I do not want to be a part of the offseason if we don't win. I'm sure a lot of player changes will take place. Ownership won't be happy. Yes, it's nice going to the playoffs 4 straight years but when a team expects to win and doesn't get it done that's called FAILURE.

Another bright side is this team since relocation is 5-0 in Game 7's and 3 of those wins on the road and 2 at home although the last home wins in game 7 were 16 years ago during the Stanley Cup run.

But tomorrow Carolina needs to come out with fire. I mean they need to play like the season and their lives depend on it...because it will. The first 6 games will not matter to this point.

We can NOT expect a blow out tomorrow especially when it's a do or die game. I'm going to expect a 3-2 or 4-3 game or something like that. If it is another blow out I'd be surprised.

Whomever scores 1st tomorrow will more than likely win the game. Raanta will need to stand on his head again like he did in game 1 and game 5 because Boston has had strong starts each game in Raleigh and Raanta weathered the storm until we took over the game.

If Carolina loses I'll know them as the 'chokers' because they would have choked away a 2-0 series lead for the first time since 87 when they were the Hartford Whalers. All the other Carolina teams that lost a 2-0 lead won the series, but the difference in those teams was they could win games in a series on the road.

Saturday afternoon is time for the Hurricanes to live up to their nickname 'The Cardiac Canes.'

If they don't it will be a LONG and disappointing offseason.



Our franchise record winning season is in jeopardy of an early exit in the playoffs.
Good post.

Playoffs between two talented teams often comes down to desire and heart.

The ‘06 team had that in spades….

I’m hard pressed (yet) to discover who that is for the Canes (perhaps Jarvis) that shines in the most challenging of situations.

It certainly isn’t Aho, TT, Tro, Necas this series and I’m worried that the team doesn’t understand that you need to leave it all on the ice to win against the Bostons, Tampas.

Anything other than making the ECF is a complete failure….c’mon given the points attained this year (and last year btw) we should be able to get out of our division by beating Boston and/or Rangers-Pens.

Don’t like Game 7’s when I worry whether our Goaltending is up to snuff and whether our team has the drive to succeed.

Only benefit of this game 7 is dundon gets another revenue game to cut his losses this season and give him faith to continue to fully spend each year.
 

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Good post.

Playoffs between two talented teams often comes down to desire and heart.

The ‘06 team had that in spades….

I’m hard pressed (yet) to discover who that is for the Canes (perhaps Jarvis) that shines in the most challenging of situations.

It certainly isn’t Aho, TT, Tro, Necas this series and I’m worried that the team doesn’t understand that you need to leave it all on the ice to win against the Bostons, Tampas.

Anything other than making the ECF is a complete failure….c’mon given the points attained this year (and last year btw) we should be able to get out of our division by beating Boston and/or Rangers-Pens.

Don’t like Game 7’s when I worry whether our Goaltending is up to snuff and whether our team has the drive to succeed.

Only benefit of this game 7 is dundon gets another revenue game to cut his losses this season and give him faith to continue to fully spend each year.

I'm actually not worried about our goaltending. Raanta has been fine this series. Game 6 would have been a lot worse if it wasn't for him. He played like he at least cared. I am worried about the team though.

Surprisingly, the first period was pretty good. But, after the Marchand goal early in the 2nd we just didn't have it. No desire to come back. PP killed us.
 

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I thought raanta was just ok last night. Made some good saves and certainly not the reason they lost but not like they wasted an amazing performance from him either. Goaltending has not been the problem, special teams has. The first pp unit spent 3 straight minutes out there on that 5 on 3 sequence and got nothing. I know these are pro athletes and that's not going to completely wreck the rest of their game but to me that was a strategic misstep- I dont know if it was a coach decision to keep them out there or the players not finding an opportunity to change but they had the bruins pk guys out there a long time too and didn't take advantage of it with fresh skaters
 

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I thought raanta was just ok last night. Made some good saves and certainly not the reason they lost but not like they wasted an amazing performance from him either. Goaltending has not been the problem, special teams has. The first pp unit spent 3 straight minutes out there on that 5 on 3 sequence and got nothing. I know these are pro athletes and that's not going to completely wreck the rest of their game but to me that was a strategic misstep- I dont know if it was a coach decision to keep them out there or the players not finding an opportunity to change but they had the bruins pk guys out there a long time too and didn't take advantage of it with fresh skaters
That was the moment we lost the game, I figured as much at the time...it's just too much of a trend for this team that 90% of the time you can tell if they're going to win or lose a game pretty early on.

Anyway, just win game 7, get this f***ing Boston Masshole monkey off our back. I really don't think Boston has "beat" or "outplayed" in any game so much as we just keep shooting ourselves in the foot, repeatedly. We've been our own worst enemy and I think that's what's prompting such angered responses around here, the self-sabotage & self-defeating is beyond frustrating. I think we'll fair better overall against Shitts or Rags, Boston is just too much in our heads on the road in the playoffs (which is odd bc we still pwned them in their barn regular season).

JUST WIN, move on, make a good showing in the next round, and it will be forgiven/forgotten.
 

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Aho has been invisible. TT has been invisible. Where are our top guys this series? Our PP and PK has let us down in the playoffs again for the 4th straight year. If you can't score on a 5 on 3 for almost a minute in the playoffs you're not going anywhere. Too much passing the puck. Shoot it!
I wish he were invisible last night. Unfortunately, he looked to me like he had been practicing too long with Necas and was firing passes to Boston players all night long. He's been bad when Boston's net has not been empty.
 

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We've been our own worst enemy and I think that's what's prompting such angered responses around here, the self-sabotage & self-defeating is beyond frustrating.
Honestly? This

I could handle a loss if we just got beat where we bring our A game and the other team just beats it. I could handle a loss if we are dominating possession putting together tons of high danger chances and their goalie just stands on his head. I can deal with those, we've been there before.

What I can't stand is when this team just shoots itself in the dick for 40-60 minutes, and that is exactly what happened in each of the 3 games in Boston this year. Stupid, mindless, lazy mistakes cost us the game each time. And we're not talking just simple little hiccups, we're talking major f***ups that will gift a goal 75-90% of the time. The unbelivably dumb drop pass by Svech on the PP in Game 3, Tro committing a horrendous DOG in Game 4, Aho getting caught flat footed and gifting a 90 second 5 on 3 followed by 2 and a half mins of a Boston PP with a lazy stupid high stick in Game 4. Aho completely forgetting how to play hockey for an entire sequence of failing to clear the zone and literally passing to the wrong team. Each of those horrendous mistakes led to a terrible goal against and didn't recover.

At a certain point you have to take the kid gloves off when evaluating this team and admit they don't have the high hockey IQ that we think they do. Not when these mistakes are constantly being made in the playoffs. In fact when the chips are on the table. we routinely show we might have a very low hockey IQ team as the stakes get raised.
 

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I think Aho and Turbo's games have both fallen off a bit since they've been separated. I still can't understand why they haven't been put back together? Haven't they combined for more points than any other duo in Carolina Hurricanes history? Why not go back to one of the things that has historically had success? As I said earlier I think it's too late to make adjustments now, they've got to clean this shit mess up with the group that allowed the mess to get this bad in the first place, hopefully they're up to the task.

While I get the frustration with Aho, the middle six has been completely invisible. Trocheck has been pretty useless against BOS, and honestly for a lot of the season as well imo. I don't know how but they need to find an upgrade on #2C this off-season, or somehow aquire an elite #1 and bump Aho down to #2, which ain't happening.

I'll come right out and say it, I think the offer sheet was dumb as hell and nothing more than Dundon swinging his ding-dong around. While I like KK as a player and I think that contract will likely turn out pretty good in the long run them dollars could have probably been better spent on some higher end talent when looking at this season only.

If they can't win the top line vs top line battle they're going to have to beat them with depth and special teams. The only time they seem to be able to do that is on home ice where they control the matchups. Which to me would indicate either a talent problem, or a lines combination/coaching issue. They should be winning 2 out of the 4 line matchups against this Boston team, with the other two playing at a break even pace.

While the players haven't been very good on the road, if they loose this series I'm looking at Rods stubbornness and lack of adjustments. If he plays a not 100% healthy Jordan Martinook in this game 7 I might actually loose my shit.

I think it's pretty painfully obvious that Turbo isn't happy, are we seeing a similar situation to when Pesce asked for a trade a few seasons ago?

Rantta imo has been adequate. Maybe with a 100% healthy, game shape Freddie this series is a little different. But remember he looked like pure ass coming off his last injury. If and when he is good to go how do you work him in? Anyway, go win this game 7 and I think they're ECF bound.
 
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I see a lot of talk about Aho's turnover on the 3rd goal, and how it's shooting ourselves in the foot, but I think that's discrediting the Bruins.

Aho wasn't the only one who failed to clear the zone that play. It seemed like literally every Canes player had a chance to clear the puck on that sequence and just... didn't. I built the package for the goal, and it happened directly after TonyD failed to clear the zone and then left the passing lane wide open to attempt to pressure McAvoy.

Why'd they all look terrible on that sequence? Because the Bruins made them look terrible. The Canes were exhausted. Bruins forecheck forced bad passes under pressure, leading to turnovers and preventing line changes. The Bruins were able to complete their change, and fresh legs against guys that had been out there for a 1:00+, and it's an easy goal from there.

I'm seeing a lot of this this series and it bears repeating: This isn't your typical 2 vs 7 matchup. The Bruins finished with over 100 points. They finished with only 3 less wins than the Canes. This was never going to be an easy series and it should surprise no one that it's going to seven.
 

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I see a lot of talk about Aho's turnover on the 3rd goal, and how it's shooting ourselves in the foot, but I think that's discrediting the Bruins.

Aho wasn't the only one who failed to clear the zone that play. It seemed like literally every Canes player had a chance to clear the puck on that sequence and just... didn't. I built the package for the goal, and it happened directly after TonyD failed to clear the zone and then left the passing lane wide open to attempt to pressure McAvoy.

Why'd they all look terrible on that sequence? Because the Bruins made them look terrible. The Canes were exhausted. Bruins forecheck forced bad passes under pressure, leading to turnovers and preventing line changes. The Bruins were able to complete their change, and fresh legs against guys that had been out there for a 1:00+, and it's an easy goal from there.

I'm seeing a lot of this this series and it bears repeating: This isn't your typical 2 vs 7 matchup. The Bruins finished with over 100 points. They finished with only 3 less wins than the Canes. This was never going to be an easy series and it should surprise no one that it's going to seven.
I think it was the pass at their (Boston's) Blue line.. It was telegraphed and easy to intercept. but yes once in the zone there is tons of blame to go around
 
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does carolina have a killer instinct?

it seems this playoff year, this trait is lacking for a couple of teams, except colorado..
 

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