Confirmed with Link: CAR Acquires Patrick Marleau along with 2020 1st (conditional) and 2020 7th for 2020 6th

[Borsig]

So this will hit us on cap this year? I mean, OK... I guess. But first rounder will be low probably.

 

[Chrispy]

So this will hit us on cap this year? I mean, OK... I guess. But first rounder will be low probably.

$6.25M cap hit this year, $3.4M in real money ($3M bonus + $416K salary buyout.)
0 cap hit in 20-21, $416K in salary buyout paid.

 

[GoldiFox]

So this will hit us on cap this year? I mean, OK... I guess. But first rounder will be low probably.

Toronto's pick was #22 this year. Next year they will have the same team minus Marleau/Gardiner and possibly Hainsey, Zaitsev, and any other cap casualties that are coming - worst case losing Marner to an offer sheet. Frederik Andersen can play well but he isn't a star. Especially behind a defense that is looking suspect at best.

I could see that pick being ~#20 again which is great for a deep draft.

 

[Penaltykiller17]

You know what I find hilarious? Columbus' GM saying $3.8 million is too much for a 1st round pick, but he mortgaged his whole franchise for an ill-advised playoff run.

 

[Joe McGrath]

You know what I find hilarious? Columbus' GM saying $3.8 million is too much for a 1st round pick, but he mortgaged his whole franchise for an ill-advised playoff run.

Maybe it’s too much for his cheap ass owner.

 

[Lempo]

Maybe it’s too much for his cheap ass owner.

That guy so cheap he took some guy from Europe for GM the job.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Marleau would not have waived his NMC if Carolina had not explicitly agreed to buy him out

At best the Canes said "give us 1 day to pitch our team to you and if not we promise a buyout"

Yup, this was my understanding. Now we'll just have to wait and see if things get finalized.

Toronto's pick was #22 this year. Next year they will have the same team minus Marleau/Gardiner and possibly Hainsey, Zaitsev, and any other cap casualties that are coming - worst case losing Marner to an offer sheet. Frederik Andersen can play well but he isn't a star. Especially behind a defense that is looking suspect at best.

I could see that pick being ~#20 again which is great for a deep draft.

Over the past 3 years, Toronto's 1st round picks have been 17th, 25th, and 22nd. They're losing Jake Gardiner who is secretly one of their best and most important players, and we saw how they came crashing down near the end of the season when he got injured. You guys could be getting a very good pick there.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I enjoy watching Toronto fail and now that has the added bonus of improving our pick

 

[Canes]

Toronto is going to finish with the 11th pick then win the lottery, and Leaves fans are going to claim how great Dubas is to have had the foresight to lottery protect the pick, forgetting that their team was a huge disappointment in the process. A lot of them are already claiming this is some sort of brilliant move and huge win after boasting all offseason about how easy it would be to clear salary while simultaneously getting value back for their boat anchors.

 

[cptjeff]

Marleau would not have waived his NMC if Carolina had not explicitly agreed to buy him out

At best the Canes said "give us 1 day to pitch our team to you and if not we promise a buyout"

I'd bet a lot of it is lip service to prevent the league from getting pissed about the fact that we're very, very, very blatantly exploiting loopholes in rules against buying and selling assets and trading cap space.

 

[cptjeff]

Toronto is going to finish with the 11th pick then win the lottery, and Leaves fans are going to claim how great Dubas is to have had the foresight to lottery protect the pick, forgetting that their team was a huge disappointment in the process. A lot of them are already claiming this is some sort of brilliant move and huge win after boasting all offseason about how easy it would be to clear salary while simultaneously getting value back for their boat anchors.

I want them to finish with the 10th pick, then have the 11th place team win the lottery, leapfrog them, and force them down to the 11th pick.

 

[GoldiFox]

I'd bet a lot of it is lip service to prevent the league from getting pissed about the fact that we're very, very, very blatantly exploiting loopholes in rules against buying and selling assets and trading cap space.

I assumed the 6th round pick for 7th round pick cleared all that up

 

[My Special Purpose]

Toronto is going to finish with the 11th pick then win the lottery, and Leaves fans are going to claim how great Dubas is to have had the foresight to lottery protect the pick, forgetting that their team was a huge disappointment in the process. A lot of them are already claiming this is some sort of brilliant move and huge win after boasting all offseason about how easy it would be to clear salary while simultaneously getting value back for their boat anchors.

I want them to finish with the 10th pick, then have the 11th place team win the lottery, leapfrog them, and force them down to the 11th pick.

I want the pick to somehow transfer to 2021 so it will be unprotected. I think the entire league would enjoy watching Toronto pull an Ottawa.

 

[Lempo]

I'd bet a lot of it is lip service to prevent the league from getting pissed about the fact that we're very, very, very blatantly exploiting loopholes in rules against buying and selling assets and trading cap space.

Are we though? Bad contract is a negative asset, draft pick is a positive asset, both assets are tradeable, we get a pick and take the cap hit for a buyout that's explicitly in accordance to the Paragraph 13 of the SPC.

Plus it was entertaining, and that's the League's business.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Toronto is going to finish with the 11th pick then win the lottery, and Leaves fans are going to claim how great Dubas is to have had the foresight to lottery protect the pick, forgetting that their team was a huge disappointment in the process. A lot of them are already claiming this is some sort of brilliant move and huge win after boasting all offseason about how easy it would be to clear salary while simultaneously getting value back for their boat anchors.

I mean, it kinda was a solid move and an easy way to clear salary. Maybe not the simultaneously getting value back part.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Toronto is going to finish with the 11th pick then win the lottery, and Leaves fans are going to claim how great Dubas is to have had the foresight to lottery protect the pick, forgetting that their team was a huge disappointment in the process. A lot of them are already claiming this is some sort of brilliant move and huge win after boasting all offseason about how easy it would be to clear salary while simultaneously getting value back for their boat anchors.

I doubt that, but in that senerio we would have the first overall pick. You take the good with the bad.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I want the pick to somehow transfer to 2021 so it will be unprotected. I think the entire league would enjoy watching Toronto pull an Ottawa.

Get a player like Brady Tkachuk? Ottawa is not disappointed.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Get a player like Brady Tkachuk? Ottawa is not disappointed.

Miss out on a player like Bowen Byram is what he was referring to I think.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Miss out on a player like Bowen Byram is what he was referring to I think.

I guess that is possible. Byram has huge potential.

 

[Sigurd]

Let's get another 1st round pick in 2020 to have 3 in a supposedly great draft .

I'd prefer improving our forward roster for next season though.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Get a player like Brady Tkachuk? Ottawa is not disappointed.

I was actually referring to finishing last overall and not having their No. 1 pick.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I was actually referring to finishing last overall and not having their No. 1 pick.

I guess it is possible though doubtful, but to pull an Ottawa, you can't have one without the other.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I guess it is possible though doubtful, but to pull an Ottawa, you can't have one without the other.

You kinda can. For example, Pick 10th one year, thus keeping the pick, and get a 1-4 pick via the lottery the next year which then goes to Carolina.

It’s not going to happen though. Leafs pick next year will be 20s-30s. Even if by miracle it isn’t, they won’t struggle 2 years in a row.

 

[Leaf Fans]

You kinda can. For example, Pick 10th one year, thus keeping the pick, and get a 1-4 pick via the lottery the next year which then goes to Carolina.

It’s not going to happen though. Leafs pick next year will be 20s-30s. Even if by miracle it isn’t, they won’t struggle 2 years in a row.

Like I said, it is possible though doubtful, but that is a risk of trading a first round pick. It is different than Ottawa though as Ottawa did in fact draft Brady before finishing last. It would have to be a Toronto if that happened.

 

[FreshSeabass]

LeBrun Notebook: Will this star-studded RFA class finally...

The idea of Marleau playing for Carolina has come and passed. I would expect Carolina to buy out Marleau at the end of the week before the June 30 deadline, making him UFA. Still impressive how Carolina got Toronto to move up to a first-round pick as the sweetener. That’s a huge return just to take on a contract which you plan to buy out. The Leafs had hoped to convince the ‘Canes to do it for a second-round draft pick but Carolina hung tough for the first-round pick.