Captain 2022-23

[Daximus]

Assuming that contract can be moved.

I think they can move it with retention. Return won't be what a lot are expecting around here I bet though.

 

[lanky]

I'm sure Chevy is floating Wheeler on the market and I'm also sure he's not going to be happy with the cost. Seems likely he's here for two more seasons.

Wheeler for Barrie and Kassian?

 

[10Ducky10]

Was Wheeler voted C?

Nope

 

[Teemusalami204]

Certain things a captain needs to do.

Wheeler used to show incredible leadership.

The time he scored a shootout winner and was about to celebrate in front of the Colorado bench and stopped himself for example

The time he stepped up too malkin and stuck up for himself after the dirty hit.

Always working hard.

It’s the behind the scenes things I’m guessing are a huge problem.

In construction there is always the guy that gets a promotion and runs around like he got knighted after. Taking it to far and everyone around gets sick of him.

The best leaders make everyone around them better and use their strengths to build the team up. Maybe Wheeler wanted everyone to play his way and buy in only one way.

He also didn’t hold everyone equally accountable. Why was laine persecuted for not being a 200 foot player while scoring 40 goals a year but sheif was just as bad and wheelers best buddy.

if Wheeler isn’t captain we have a couple players that are worthy of A’s

We don’t have anyone close to captain material.

If Lowry was able to bang in big goals at crucial times he would be amazing captain material. He has done this in the playoffs before so maybe it’s possible.

Morrisey is a quiet playing type of guy and our team doesn’t stick up for eachother already. We don’t need a leader that won’t throw a big hit or fight if needed. This is one of the biggest problems.

I could see helly being run and morrisey just grabbing the guy softly and pushing him gently into the boards.

We need to change the culture. We need to play a big boy game that holds everyone accountable. Including the other team and morrisey won’t do this imo

 

[DannyGallivan]

3 alternates this upcoming season, then name a C next year.

Then who will accept the Stanley Cup from Bettman after our last game?

Certain things a captain needs to do.

Wheeler used to show incredible leadership.

The time he scored a shootout winner and was about to celebrate in front of the Colorado bench and stopped himself for example

The time he stepped up too malkin and stuck up for himself after the dirty hit.

Always working hard.

It’s the behind the scenes things I’m guessing are a huge problem.

In construction there is always the guy that gets a promotion and runs around like he got knighted after. Taking it to far and everyone around gets sick of him.

The best leaders make everyone around them better and use their strengths to build the team up. Maybe Wheeler wanted everyone to play his way and buy in only one way.

He also didn’t hold everyone equally accountable. Why was laine persecuted for not being a 200 foot player while scoring 40 goals a year but sheif was just as bad and wheelers best buddy.

if Wheeler isn’t captain we have a couple players that are worthy of A’s

We don’t have anyone close to captain material.

If Lowry was able to bang in big goals at crucial times he would be amazing captain material. He has done this in the playoffs before so maybe it’s possible.

Morrisey is a quiet playing type of guy and our team doesn’t stick up for eachother already. We don’t need a leader that won’t throw a big hit or fight if needed. This is one of the biggest problems.

I could see helly being run and morrisey just grabbing the guy softly and pushing him gently into the boards.

We need to change the culture. We need to play a big boy game that holds everyone accountable. Including the other team and morrisey won’t do this imo

The only reason I am in support of changing the C and one of the A's is because of the utter turmoil behind the scenes that we can't see. Scheifele's words to the media at the end of the season speaks for himself. With Wheeler, we are simply putting two and two together. If there are big issues in the locker room, then it's a no brainer to change the captaincy, regardless of how hard, how brave and how dedicated the current captain is.

 

[Teemusalami204]

Then who will accept the Stanley Cup from Bettman after our last game?


The only reason I am in support of changing the C and one of the A's is because of the utter turmoil behind the scenes that we can't see. Scheifele's words to the media at the end of the season speaks for himself. With Wheeler, we are simply putting two and two together. If there are big issues in the locker room, then it's a no brainer to change the captaincy, regardless of how hard, how brave and how dedicated the current captain is.

I agree with you. I just don’t think we have a suitable replacement either. Basically picking morrisey because he’s signed the longest and safest bet to not want out. It’s came to this.

And if Wheeler isn’t traded he will be the captain. I don’t see a universe where they strip him if he’s on the team. That would be accountability to the highest level.

Wheeler is also a pouter. If he’s stripped there’s no way he comes back professionally

 

[MardyBum]

I think people are basing it off of Frank Seravalli adding Wheeler to his “trade board” with comments about Jets wanting to make big changes:



Seems far from guaranteed for me. A month ago Schiefele was “guaranteed gone” and now it looks like he’s not going anywhere. So who knows?

I just wanted to chime in saying Lowry should be captain

Friedman also mentioned he "thought" (read:was told) they'd both be open to a trade.

 

[PhilJets]

Morrissey the obvious choice now.

Lowry
Ehlers

 

[surixon]

Certain things a captain needs to do.

Wheeler used to show incredible leadership.

The time he scored a shootout winner and was about to celebrate in front of the Colorado bench and stopped himself for example

The time he stepped up too malkin and stuck up for himself after the dirty hit.

Always working hard.

It’s the behind the scenes things I’m guessing are a huge problem.

In construction there is always the guy that gets a promotion and runs around like he got knighted after. Taking it to far and everyone around gets sick of him.

The best leaders make everyone around them better and use their strengths to build the team up. Maybe Wheeler wanted everyone to play his way and buy in only one way.

He also didn’t hold everyone equally accountable. Why was laine persecuted for not being a 200 foot player while scoring 40 goals a year but sheif was just as bad and wheelers best buddy.

if Wheeler isn’t captain we have a couple players that are worthy of A’s

We don’t have anyone close to captain material.

If Lowry was able to bang in big goals at crucial times he would be amazing captain material. He has done this in the playoffs before so maybe it’s possible.

Morrisey is a quiet playing type of guy and our team doesn’t stick up for eachother already. We don’t need a leader that won’t throw a big hit or fight if needed. This is one of the biggest problems.

I could see helly being run and morrisey just grabbing the guy softly and pushing him gently into the boards.

We need to change the culture. We need to play a big boy game that holds everyone accountable. Including the other team and morrisey won’t do this imo

I'm curious but how many captains do you think fit you on ice ideal template?

I can really only think of a small handful like Landeskog, Ovie, Tkachuk.

There are a number of highly successful ones like Crosby, Stamkos, Kopitar etc that don't meet it.

Personally I think off ice leadership and ability to manage the room should be the biggest priorities in our next captain.

 

[Teemusalami204]

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I'm curious but how many captains do you think fit you on ice ideal template?

I can really only think of a small handful like Landeskog, Ovie, Tkachuk.

There are a number of highly successful ones like Crosby, Stamkos, Kopitar etc that don't meet it.

Personally I think off ice leadership and ability to manage the room should be the biggest priorities in our next captain.

The three you mentioned can all score huge goals in the playoffs and going to the hall of fame. The excel in areas that let them dominate. They are huge outliers.

Morrisey will be a quiet litte captain on the ice. And if the team follows his lead we won’t be sticking up for eachother at all. Which is something our next captain should be very strong in and is a huge problem with our room

 

[ERYX]

Certain things a captain needs to do.

Wheeler used to show incredible leadership.

The time he scored a shootout winner and was about to celebrate in front of the Colorado bench and stopped himself for example

The time he stepped up too malkin and stuck up for himself after the dirty hit.

Always working hard.

It’s the behind the scenes things I’m guessing are a huge problem.

In construction there is always the guy that gets a promotion and runs around like he got knighted after. Taking it to far and everyone around gets sick of him.

The best leaders make everyone around them better and use their strengths to build the team up. Maybe Wheeler wanted everyone to play his way and buy in only one way.

He also didn’t hold everyone equally accountable. Why was laine persecuted for not being a 200 foot player while scoring 40 goals a year but sheif was just as bad and wheelers best buddy.

if Wheeler isn’t captain we have a couple players that are worthy of A’s

We don’t have anyone close to captain material.

If Lowry was able to bang in big goals at crucial times he would be amazing captain material. He has done this in the playoffs before so maybe it’s possible.

Morrisey is a quiet playing type of guy and our team doesn’t stick up for eachother already. We don’t need a leader that won’t throw a big hit or fight if needed. This is one of the biggest problems.

I could see helly being run and morrisey just grabbing the guy softly and pushing him gently into the boards.

We need to change the culture. We need to play a big boy game that holds everyone accountable. Including the other team and morrisey won’t do this imo

The Wheeler you describe here is the Wheeler I love and why I was fully onboard with him as Captain back in the day.

I still like his on-ice product. There's just too many lockerroom issues to ignore now. There's so many issues that I don't think it's possible anymore to say this is all speculation and rumour-mongering. There HAS to be some truth to it, and the fact Jets are even considering trading Wheels would seem to further confirm that.

Also, this thread really makes me miss Andrew Ladd even more.

 

[cbcwpg]

The only way Wheeler isn't the captain next season is if he isn't here.

Going off the wall a bit, I wouldn't have a problem with the Jets signing Statsny for a year or two and making him captain.

But given our current roster, I would say Lowry or Morrissey.

Question? Should the captain be picked by the players or the fans? Because honestly I don't care who the captain is, as long as it's someone all the players can get behind and follow.

 

[DRW204]

The only way Wheeler isn't the captain next season is if he isn't here.

Going off the wall a bit, I wouldn't have a problem with the Jets signing Statsny for a year or two and making him captain.

But given our current roster, I would say Lowry or Morrissey.

Question? Should the captain be picked by the players or the fans? Because honestly I don't care who the captain is, as long as it's someone all the players can get behind and follow.

Definitely players.

 

[ERYX]

The only way Wheeler isn't the captain next season is if he isn't here.

...

Question? Should the captain be picked by the players or the fans? Because honestly I don't care who the captain is, as long as it's someone all the players can get behind and follow.

Agree with the bolded.

And it should be the players. The fans don't know enough about the players since we only see part of the picture.

 

[jetsforever]

Ehlers is my favourite player but I don't think he leads the room enough to be captain right now
If not Wheeler, then Scheifele is likely the top choice followed by Morrissey
If PLD ends up extending long-term he'd be a candidate too I think

 

[ps241]

“IF” Wheeler is traded I would go with no Captain for the season and just run with multiple assocaite captains.

If I was in charge of overseeing the Captain picking process I would go old school and lock the dressing room door (to keep the bosses out), give every player one piece of paper to vote, drop the name you wrote in the hat, pass the hat around the room, and may the best man win.

That’s your leader, thats your Captain.

Managment get the f*** out of the way (and yes I own my company ). Bosses can be idiots

 

[abax44]

Do the rules require us to have captains or assistant captains? If so, I wish they didn't. The letters create hierchies, drama and impediments to roster moves without much benefit IMO.

Oh shut up

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Oh shut up

 

[voyageur]

“IF” Wheeler is traded I would go with no Captain for the season and just run with multiple assocaite captains.

If I was in charge of overseeing the Captain picking process I would go old school and lock the dressing room door (to keep the bosses out), give every player one piece of paper to vote, drop the name you wrote in the hat, pass the hat around the room, and may the best man win.

That’s your leader, thats your Captain.

Managment get the f*** out of the way (and yes I own my company ). Bosses can be idiots

I loved your story of how Jean Beliveau was anointed captain, narrowly beating out Boom Boom. Turned out to be a great decision.

Let's say the players pick Scheifele, is he up for it? Because answering stupid questions from the media is part of the job. I can see the media trying to ruffle him in his scripted answers. I think Josh Morrissey is the guy. He's just the right age, right maturity, intelligent, speaks well. He was chosen for the A over Buff from some reports here at the end of the 2019 season, when Buff was considered too feisty for the locker room. So I think management is behind the guy.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Let's say the players pick Scheifele, is he up for it? Because answering stupid questions from the media is part of the job. I can see the media trying to ruffle him in his scripted answers.

Mark, just an abysmal night for both the team and you personally. What went wrong?

Oh, hey. Mark, it's OK. Never mind. So, how are the goats?

 

[ps241]

I loved your story of how Jean Beliveau was anointed captain, narrowly beating out Boom Boom. Turned out to be a great decision.

Let's say the players pick Scheifele, is he up for it? Because answering stupid questions from the media is part of the job. I can see the media trying to ruffle him in his scripted answers. I think Josh Morrissey is the guy. He's just the right age, right maturity, intelligent, speaks well. He was chosen for the A over Buff from some reports here at the end of the 2019 season, when Buff was considered too feisty for the locker room. So I think management is behind the guy.

I really liked how that played out with the Habs it was a close, surprising vote but the room spoke. The process was far from easy but I really liked how Managment put the choice squarely in the players hands. Even when Boom Boom was so devastated when he didn't win, and Jean said he would give the captaincy to Boom to unite the room Selke said no way, he would never overturn the players vote.


Blake has always been a really feisty guy and there were legit concerns by everyone when he was named the Captain. I think Maurice might have even joked about it in the press conference when Wheeler was choosen. Blake had been the most intense (moody) interview after games even before he was named Captain. I think he ended up melting down a little less than I expected but he was never going to be the boring Ladd type captain. From a strict handling the media perspective Morrissey would be about as professional as you would get. I have no idea if that is who the players would choose to lead them though?

I wouldn’t mind a cooling off period between captains (3 associates for a period of time) but as long as the players pick the next captain then I am fine with the result.

 

[macmaroon]

Oh, hey. Mark, it's OK. Never mind. So, how are the goats?

 

[jamiebez]

Just a note I thought I'd throw out, since I've seen it a few times in this thread....

The players do NOT vote the next captain. I don't believe any NHL team has done this for many years now. It's always a management choice.

I suppose the rationale is that this is the person they want to represent the team to the media, and to on-ice officials. So it's a team call, not the players' call

 

[WpgSteve]

I loved your story of how Jean Beliveau was anointed captain, narrowly beating out Boom Boom. Turned out to be a great decision.

Let's say the players pick Scheifele, is he up for it? Because answering stupid questions from the media is part of the job. I can see the media trying to ruffle him in his scripted answers. I think Josh Morrissey is the guy. He's just the right age, right maturity, intelligent, speaks well. He was chosen for the A over Buff from some reports here at the end of the 2019 season, when Buff was considered too feisty for the locker room. So I think management is behind the guy.

Scheifele seems willing to tell it like it is lately. His last few interviews have been anything but boring.

I'd be open to him as captain. Making him the leader might force him to think about the team and not just himself. He seems like the type of person that would take the role seriously if given it. It might also help his confidence.

 

[ps241]

Just a note I thought I'd throw out, since I've seen it a few times in this thread....

The players do NOT vote the next captain. I don't believe any NHL team has done this for many years now. It's always a management choice.

I suppose the rationale is that this is the person they want to represent the team to the media, and to on-ice officials. So it's a team call, not the players' call

If I was the owner it’s the first thing I would change. Not an area that needs micromanaging or overthinking. The players understand the job scope and they know who the leader is.