Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[CapitalsCupReality]

Agreed on TVR - I think Thompson and Lindgren both stink, but they're cheap, so it's fine.

Sammy stunk, these guys are better than that…come on….decent enough cheap platoon IMO….

I tell you what, Sammy and Vanny I would be hand wringing over goaltending heading into a playoff series…..the two we have now are plucky…gamers….they wiill rise and fall at times…

 

[stephenball]

I think saying they stink is a wild exaggeration.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Sammy stunk, these guys are better than that…come on….decent enough cheap platoon IMO….

I tell you what, Sammy and Vanny I would be hand wringing over goaltending heading into a playoff series…..the two we have now are plucky…gamers….they wiill rise and fall at times…

Sammy was a level below stinking... he reeked.

 

[Kazer]

I think saying they stink is a wild exaggeration.

Thompson has been pretty good, and Lindgren has been average. Stink is not even in the conversation.

Having said that, the perception is likely because of how much the NHL average save percentage has dropped over the past decade. Coming out of the 04-05 lockout, the average save percentage was .901% in 05-06. The number increased from there, year-over-year, until it peaked in 14-15 and 15-16 at .915% (and again, that is the average). And it has steadily decreased since:

22-23 .904%
23-24 .903%
24-25* .901% [*prorated, of course]

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Lindgren's .897 feels quite a bit below average when in reality it's only a shade below average and Thompson's .911 feels average when it's actually solidly above.

 

[zappa4ever]

Look how near identical WSH/CAR's numbers are, just flip Home/Away record and it's practically same

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Having said that, the perception is likely because of how much the NHL average save percentage has dropped over the past decade.

I don't think any publicly available goalie stats are even worth talking about. There are too many external variables outside of the goalie's control that go into sv%, GAA, GSAA, all other related stats. They're much better as team defense stats.

It's all #eyetest for me. I don't think we've had an actually good goalie since Holtby. I also don't think there are many good goalies out there in general. Again, that's fine, because the tandem we've got is dirt cheap.

 

[stephenball]

Look how near identical WSH/CAR's numbers are, just flip Home/Away record and it's practically same

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That’s actually wild, and honestly makes me feel good, because Carolina is a really good team. We can hang with anyone at the moment.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

2nd time ive seen this rumor. Like why would we want him? 20 goal scorer last season and might be a buy low I guess.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

2nd time ive seen this rumor. Like why would we want him? 20 goal scorer last season and might be a buy low I guess.

Cost certainty in the middle six so they have room to use money elsewhere. 3x3 for a young 20-goal scorer isn’t terrible value.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Cost certainty in the middle six so they have room to use money elsewhere. 3x3 for a young 20-goal scorer isn’t terrible value.

Im not sure LW is where we should be looking to add and at 3m. If Mangi isnt in the plans next season I could see a 1 for 1 trade being floated.

Just saw @hockeykicker suggest Sonny. That makes more sense

 

[RedRocking]

2nd time ive seen this rumor. Like why would we want him? 20 goal scorer last season and might be a buy low I guess.

Of the Nucks games I’ve seen, I really like Hoglander. He’s scrappy and hardworking - good finisher around the net. I think he’d be a great fit with Eller. Decent value for a young middle 6er that has scored 20 goals.

Still not sure what they’d want from us. No way would I want to send them TvR. If they need a RHD so bad - lets give them back Ethan Bear! Lol. I guess Mangiapane makes sense if they want future cap flexibility. Don’t see Tocchet being interested in Milano.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

He’s a pain in the ass play against I read. I remember wanting him in his draft year.

 

[Ridley Simon]

It’s probably the same rumour, just in different sites. They all cling to the same news.

That said, this would be SUCH a GMCP/GMBM type pick up. Young player w chops in a cheap deal that has somehow gone sour.

And isn’t he like 1.4m now? This year? Or did I read that wrong?

Send Milano and a future and let’s GOOO

 

[Todd Lazarchick]

Im not sure LW is where we should be looking to add and at 3m. If Mangi isnt in the plans next season I could see a 1 for 1 trade being floated.

Just saw @hockeykicker suggest Sonny. That makes more sense

3W looks to be the only “weakness” in the lineup right now. Simply because no one has stepped up to claim it between Milano/Vrana/Lapierre. So I admire them making a move for someone to shore that up.

It’s probably the same rumour, just in different sites. They all cling to the same news.

That said, this would be SUCH a GMCP/GMBM type pick up. Young player w chops in a cheap deal that has somehow gone sour.

And isn’t he like 1.4m now? This year? Or did I read that wrong?

Send Milano and a future and let’s GOOO

I think it’s 1.1 this year

 

[Kazer]

I'm not sure I see the fit given the extension. Weren't we just arguing about how Leonard is going to be in the NHL next year, and I have to imagine Miro will be too? Plus, Cristall nearly made the team out of camp last year. And their best prospect outside of those three is another winger (Parascak).

If you assume that Ovechkin, Wilson, Protas, and McMichael are the other top 9 wingers, where does Hoglander fit beyond 24-25?

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Feels like the Caps would offer up Lapierre for a player like Hoglander.

 

[um]

I don't think any publicly available goalie stats are even worth talking about. There are too many external variables outside of the goalie's control that go into sv%, GAA, GSAA, all other related stats. They're much better as team defense stats.

It's all #eyetest for me. I don't think we've had an actually good goalie since Holtby. I also don't think there are many good goalies out there in general. Again, that's fine, because the tandem we've got is dirt cheap.

Did you miss Lindgren’s play last season?

But also, yea, Holtby is missed.

 

[um]

I'm not sure I see the fit given the extension. Weren't we just arguing about how Leonard is going to be in the NHL next year, and I have to imagine Miro will be too? Plus, Cristall nearly made the team out of camp last year. And their best prospect outside of those three is another winger (Parascak).

If you assume that Ovechkin, Wilson, Protas, and McMichael are the other top 9 wingers, where does Hoglander fit beyond 24-25?

There’s 8 winger spots. I don’t view Raddyish and Duhaime as elite 4th liners whose spots are locked down.

 

[Holtbyisms]

Feels like the Caps would offer up Lapierre for a player like Hoglander.

That would be an awful move.

 

[Brian23]

That's giving me Lavi flashbacks.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

That would be an awful move.

Awful or not, Hoglander, a 24 year old who scored 20 something’s goals isn’t going for peanuts.

 

[Todd Lazarchick]

That would be an awful move.

I would gladly move Lappy 1v1 for the deal.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Im not sure LW is where we should be looking to add and at 3m. If Mangi isnt in the plans next season I could see a 1 for 1 trade being floated.

Just saw @hockeykicker suggest Sonny. That makes more sense

They can’t afford Mango I think…they should be asking for one of Lappy, Miro, etc…

You’re not getting a young 20g scorer for our junk.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

I'm not sure I see the fit given the extension. Weren't we just arguing about how Leonard is going to be in the NHL next year, and I have to imagine Miro will be too? Plus, Cristall nearly made the team out of camp last year. And their best prospect outside of those three is another winger (Parascak).

If you assume that Ovechkin, Wilson, Protas, and McMichael are the other top 9 wingers, where does Hoglander fit beyond 24-25?

No way in hell are all three of Lenny, Miro, and Cristall in the line up full time next year.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

No way in hell are all three of Lenny, Miro, and Cristall in the line up full time next year.

Yep….I'm seeing a pending logjam. Somebody could very well be moved.