Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2021 Off-Season Pt. 2

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Assuming Carlson stays.....come on, dude. I will return to something Ive said before. Laviolette's game depends on a deep commitment to offense from his defense corp. A second defense pair with next to no ability to put up offense along with a 3rd pair that is similar is going to kill that system. Do you think Laviolette needs to change his game or be replaced?

His decisions in the postseason did not fill me with confidence going forward, so yeah I think he needs to change something. And I've already said he should have a short leash this season if he isn't getting the job done.

Also Orlov is more than capable of driving offense. Defensemen don't need to put up big point totals in order to help the team score goals.
 
His decisions in the postseason did not fill me with confidence going forward, so yeah I think he needs to change something. And I've already said he should have a short leash this season if he isn't getting the job done.

Also Orlov is more than capable of driving offense. Defensemen don't need to put up big point totals in order to help the team score goals.

What is getting the job done? Winning or building good underlying numbers?
I know. Actual goals and points are overrated. In the final 34 games of the season Orlov had 21 points. Call me crazy but I think he was WAY better in that 21 point stretch than in the 1 pt in 18 game stretch.
 
Assuming Carlson stays.....come on, dude. I will return to something Ive said before. Laviolette's game depends on a deep commitment to offense from his defense corp. A second defense pair with next to no ability to put up offense along with a 3rd pair that is similar is going to kill that system. Do you think Laviolette needs to change his game or be replaced?
You keep saying this, but you really don’t understand what you’re saying.

Lavi’s system relies on the D to be willing to forecheck up to the halfboards are part of what he calls a “2-3 forecheck” (which is just a 2-1-2 with activated D). It DOES NOT require all your defensemen to log high point totals.

2nd and 3rd pairings with no high point totals will kill the system? Really? Let’s look at Lavi’s Stanley Cup winning team. Kaberle could put up points from the blue line, no question there. The next best offensive D was…. Bret Hedican who scored 30 points a whopping ZERO times in his career. Each of Commodore, Wallin, Ward, and Wesley played all 25 playoff games, and none scored more than 5 points. Sure seems like he did pretty well that year with 2 pairings not totaling a lot of points…

Okay, what about his other successful teams? The Flyers squad he led to the finals had 3 D with good points totals, but more than 50% of Timonens scoring was coming on the power play. The Coburn/Timmo pairing didn’t put up much offensively at even strength in the playoffs, despite the fact that Lavi was basically just rolling 2 pairings.

His 2017 Predators team is the only one that he’s gone deep with that relied heavily on scoring from the D, and that’s because that D corps was loaded and the forward group wasn’t exactly a bunch of superstars.
 
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What is getting the job done? Winning or building good underlying numbers?
I know. Actual goals and points are overrated. In the final 34 games of the season Orlov had 21 points. Call me crazy but I think he was WAY better in that 21 point stretch than in the 1 pt in 18 game stretch.

I love actual goals and points, however they do not generate many actual goals and points when it counts most in the postseason and I think it's because they don't consistently generate good chances at 5v5. Much of this is due to the decline of players like Backstrom and Ovechkin, but Laviolette also plays a pretty conservative offensive system and prefers his grinders.

I'd like to see Laviolette not play a replacement-level player in Justin Schultz 20+ minutes a night if he's still around. If Kuznetsov is still on the roster I'd also like to see Laviolette trust him more and play him more, especially when Kuznetsov's on-ice performance last year was his best in years and he was one of the primary drivers of their 5v5 offense last year.

It may turn out that Washington's roster won't be good enough to compete for a Cup next year. Without big changes this is where I see them. However Laviolette really does need to maximize what he has. So far he really hasn't done that, even if he introduced more structure than Rierden had them playing with.
 
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I thought Laviolette was out-coached convincingly in the playoffs. While Boston was the better team, I think that with better coaching Caps could have put up a much more of a fight.

If the point of coaching is to get the best out of players available, I'd give Laviolette a solid C. His man-on-man defense is detrimental to this group, he did not manage to get anything out of Vrana, Carlson's defensive play continued to deteriorate while his minutes remained exceedingly high, Schultz single-handedly cost the team at least one win against Boston and should have been a healthy scratch for later portions of the regular season and all of the playoffs. He brought the best out of Dowd, so that's cool.

I sure as hell hope that he makes significant changes to both his system and his personnel deployment.
 
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Is Gostisbere cost a negative 2nd+ because he was healthy scratched a few times what would Panik have cost to move?
 
Is Gostisbere cost a negative 2nd+ because he was healthy scratched a few times what would Panik have cost to move?

What did Panik cost us to move? I estimate it around 2 2nds. It was an incredibly high cost to pay for moving 2 years of a $2.75m contract.
 
May? You are uncertain? I mean short of trading Carlson and Wilson, you seem pretty sold that they arent.

Wilson is a perfectly fine player. They can be competitive with him as a top 6 RW.

I’m not sure they can be competitive with Carlson as their 1D however. Especially since they need that 1C still and Carlson could be a great trade piece to help get that 1C.
 
Wilson is a perfectly fine player. They can be competitive with him as a top 6 RW.

I’m not sure they can be competitive with Carlson as their 1D however. Especially since they need that 1C still and Carlson could be a great trade piece to help get that 1C.

Doom
 
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Thirteen back-to-back pairs of games as part of the 2021-22 schedule (and that's before COVID Delta shoots this schedule to hell). That's more than 30% of their regular season schedule being played as part of a B2B. So much for a not compressed schedule...
 
An All-Star weekend AND an Olympic break? That's, uhh... different


e; This is the weird part where I start to root for TJ Oshie to not be selected for Team USA and for Team Denmark to fail to qualify for the Olympics (let's go Norway!)

they said if there is no nhl'ers in Olympics then everything from late feb onward moves up 2 weeks
 
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