Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2020 Offseason Pt. 1

[Calicaps]

I worked at WHFS(if anyone even knows what that is) in the 90s and DC was still a good music garden. Bonnie Raitt and Emmylou Harris came out of that. Mary Chapin Carpenter and Shawn Colvin came out of that. The Birchmere in Old Towne is still like The Troubadour one of the top 5 music clubs in America.

But things change. I am retired from the music business and live in the country and have no interest in being in a large metro anymore. So, who knows what i really know about modern day

1980s--hard core & straight edge punk, go-go, bluegrass, reggae--such great diverse music. God I loved it. But yeah, donezo...

 

[Langway]

31 Thoughts: Is Matt Dumba next up on the Wild trade block? - Sportsnet.ca

One thing I heard Washington wanted to address: Their defence corps was “off” last season. The group just didn’t work well together. That unit flourished under Laviolette in Nashville. The Capitals watched Andre Burakovsy and Chandler Stephenson blossom elsewhere, so trying a new approach was the preference.

Not sure that works logically. Relying on Kempny & Jensen as top four defenders seems very problematic but maybe that's the route they take to free up cap space for an established goaltender. I'd probably go in the opposite direction but easy for me to say in a win-now situation.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

I worked at WHFS(if anyone even knows what that is) in the 90s and DC was still a good music garden. Bonnie Raitt and Emmylou Harris came out of that. Mary Chapin Carpenter and Shawn Colvin came out of that. The Birchmere in Old Towne is still like The Troubadour one of the top 5 music clubs in America.

But things change. I am retired from the music business and live in the country and have no interest in being in a large metro anymore. So, who knows what i really know about modern day

I've lived most of my life this way and love it. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I've made many trips to D.C. in my life and enjoyed the late 80s and early 90s there and would rate it a nice city with eccletic style. It's by far the best imho of the Eastern cities. If you love museums and short trips to historical places then D.C. is for you. For me, Seattle was once the greatest U.S. city until about 15 years. It all depends on what you like and your hobbies, but one thing D.C. is going to get you is Cap's hockey . As a country boy, metro areas are great for visits.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

31 Thoughts: Is Matt Dumba next up on the Wild trade block? - Sportsnet.ca

Not sure that works logically. Relying on Kempny & Jensen as top four defenders seems very problematic but maybe that's the route they take to free up cap space for an established goaltender. I'd probably go in the opposite direction but easy for me to say in a win-now situation.

I'm leaning on a pass on Dumba.

 

[Marshall]

Feels like this thread has gotten a bit more off-track than usual...

 

[txpd]

1980s--hard core & straight edge punk, go-go, bluegrass, reggae--such great diverse music. God I loved it. But yeah, donezo...

I remember Evan Johns and the H Bombs. I remember The Twist and Shout in Bethesda American Legion hall

 

[Hivemind]

Even by the end of HFStival it was happening in Baltimore instead of DC.

DC is fine to visit. The museums are indeed great. But I just don’t love the ethos of the city, even as a federal employee with two generations of federal employees above me on both sides of the family. It’s too yuppie and filled with too many transplants.

 

[g00n]

Even by the end of HFStival it was happening in Baltimore instead of DC.

DC is fine to visit. The museums are indeed great. But I just don’t love the ethos of the city, even as a federal employee with two generations of federal employees above me on both sides of the family. It’s too yuppie and filled with too many transplants.

DC was f***ing great in the 90s if you were into dance/techno/industrial/goth clubbing and shit like the old 9:30 club. But if you're looking for bro country or some other pop validation, DC ain't it.

 

[txpd]

31 Thoughts: Is Matt Dumba next up on the Wild trade block? - Sportsnet.ca

Not sure that works logically. Relying on Kempny & Jensen as top four defenders seems very problematic but maybe that's the route they take to free up cap space for an established goaltender. I'd probably go in the opposite direction but easy for me to say in a win-now situation.

Trying to make 2 $2.5m defensemen work in the top 4 even if a modified top 4 was always stretching it. IMO. One of those has worked in the past and I think currently keeping Jensen fits fine. Find a solid left defense partner for Carlson that is good enough to carry a 2nd pair to make Orlov-Carlson a viable alternative(Kempny Jensen isnt that). I dont think Dillon is versitile enough to play that role. Brodin, who is no longer available, fits the template.

Brodin Carlson
Orlov Jensen

Orlov Carlson
Brodin Jensen.

Its going to be a $4m/$5m player

 

[txpd]

DC was f***ing great in the 90s if you were into dance/techno/industrial/goth clubbing and shit like the old 9:30 club. But if you're looking for bro country or some other pop validation, DC ain't it.

bro country.....ick

 

[txpd]

Brandon Carlo?

 

[Melkor]

Good for you. You said it. Trade him.

And? If the whole point of your "return to you" was to make me say 'trade him' that was childish as hell. I really am not gonna cry over anyone getting traded from this team if they try to screw the cap situation be it Ovechkin or anybody else. And btw, Backstrom's contract looks horrific too. You can write that down in your book.

 

[OV Rocks]

An under the radar right handed defenseman that I am interested in is Carson Soucy from Minnesota who is a UFA. Seems to be a pretty solid all around player with some offense to his game, 7 goals 7 assists in 55 games last year. He is also 6-5 which doesn't hurt either.

I looked at Min. boards and seems like they think he is gone for sure. He plays bottom pairing minutes being stuck behind two high end RD.

If we are looking for value I think he is a great guy to look at.

 

[Langway]

Its going to be a $4m/$5m player

I don't think that defenseman is out there in free agency at LD, though. Brodie is a lefty but mainly plays and is better at RD. RD Tanev & Hamonic bring some similar stabilizing elements but with durability concerns. I'm guessing it'll be Dillon if they can manage to get him more on their terms. It isn't ideal and he'd need to be more toward that Edmundson $3.5M range. The closest fits in UFA may be Chara, Greene or Hainsey but neither are that guy anymore. I don't think Gustafsson is on that level all-around, nor Kulikov. Some of the UFA RD could perhaps work alongside Orlov but if a stabilizing LD is their target it'd have to be a trade (likely involving Kempy moving one way or another).

Mobility and size should be keys, hence bringing up Cernak or some other younger options. Barrie on a short-term deal could also perhaps work, esp. if they want to go more up-tempo. Orlov-Barrie would be an adventure but guaranteed entertainment.

 

[txpd]

I don't think that defenseman is out there in free agency at LD, though. Brodie is a lefty but mainly plays and is better at RD. RD Tanev & Hamonic bring some similar stabilizing elements but with durability concerns. I'm guessing it'll be Dillon if they can manage to get him more on their terms. It isn't ideal and he'd need to be more toward that Edmundson $3.5M range. The closest fits in UFA may be Chara, Greene or Hainsey but neither are that guy anymore. I don't think Gustafsson is on that level all-around, nor Kulikov. Some of the UFA RD could perhaps work alongside Orlov but if a stabilizing LD is their target it'd have to be a trade (likely involving Kempy moving one way or another).

Mobility and size should be keys, hence bringing up Cernak or some other younger options. Barrie on a short-term deal could also perhaps work, esp. if they want to go more up-tempo. Orlov-Barrie would be an adventure but guaranteed entertainment.

On 31 thoughts they mentioned that Boston may move Brandon Carlo so they can afford more offense.

Orlov Carlson
Fehervary Carlo(with a trade deadline add if the rookie is like a rookie)

 

[txpd]

And? If the whole point of your "return to you" was to make me say 'trade him' that was childish as hell. I really am not gonna cry over anyone getting traded from this team if they try to screw the cap situation be it Ovechkin or anybody else. And btw, Backstrom's contract looks horrific too. You can write that down in your book.

My point is that you cant say dont pay him and dont lose him. You have to do one or the other. In this case you have to lean one way or the other. Most of us say pay the guy and keep him. Hoping that in the process he wants to win enough to help with the salary cap. I wanted to know where you came down. You lean to let him go. Honestly, Boss, I am not sure how much of a legit alternative that is.

 

[Langway]

Carlo would probably cost more than Cernak just because there shouldn't be as much incentive to move him. Hjalmarsson & Goligoski in Arizona stick out most as trade fits IMO. Maybe Demers.

 

[Melkor]

Re: Carlo:

Forget abouth him. He's the Bruins' best defensive D, they won't let him go unless his money appetite goes absolutely bananas. Even Vrana won't be enough to get him.

 

[Futures Passed]

Carlo would probably cost more than Cernak just because there shouldn't be as much incentive to move him. Hjalmarsson & Goligoski in Arizona stick out most as trade fits IMO. Maybe Demers.

Honestly, there’s not that many options out there at LD. There are a lot more options at RD right now, even though we’re used to thinking the opposite. I would have said DeKeyser in Detroit, but he’s also recovering from back surgery, so it seems a little dicey to gamble on a big trade for him before he can be evaluated on the ice again.

Brodin definitely would have made sense but, of course, he’s getting paid six million a year now.

 

[hb13xchamps]

Re: Carlo:

Forget abouth him. He's the Bruins' best defensive D, they won't let him go unless his money appetite goes absolutely bananas. Even Vrana won't be enough to get him.

The asking price is apparently a top 6 forward or a legit top 4 LD according to The Athletic's trade board. Had him listed at #19 on their trade bait list

 

[Melkor]

The asking price is apparently a top 6 forward or a legit top 4 LD according to The Athletic's trade board. Had him listed at #19 on their trade bait list

They'd be crazy to trade him for a 2nd liner. A legit top-4 D is a different story but I don't see anyone wanting to rid of a guy with the ability similar to Carlo's.

 

[Corby78]

Any talk of trading Ovie/Backy is beyond silly. Yeah they may get paid more than their production in a couple years and hurt the teams cap, but oh well. Their value now goes beyond play on the ice. They ARE the caps. They aren’t Langway, or Gartner. They aren’t Bondra or Hunter. They went way beyond that and made the Caps THE team over the last decade and honestly relevant for the first time ever.

this is a case where it’s more valuable in the long term to ensure that’s not tarnished by seeing them ever wear another sweater. I don’t care if they put up goose eggs next year, we deal with it.

 

[Melkor]

Any talk of trading Ovie/Backy is beyond silly. Yeah they may get paid more than their production in a couple years and hurt the teams cap, but oh well. Their value now goes beyond play on the ice. They ARE the caps. They aren’t Langway, or Gartner. They aren’t Bondra or Hunter. They went way beyond that and made the Caps THE team over the last decade and honestly relevant for the first time ever.

this is a case where it’s more valuable in the long term to ensure that’s not tarnished by seeing them ever wear another sweater. I don’t care if they put up goose eggs next year, we deal with it.

yeah, everyone doesnt care until the moment when they do. This board is constantly pissed off whenever something goes wrong in a one single game, let alone a whole season. I'd wait and save such statements until they really put up goose eggs and fail the team.

 

[Corby78]

yeah, everyone doesnt care until the moment when they do. This board is constantly pissed off whenever something goes wrong in a one single game, let alone a whole season. I'd wait and save such statements until they really put up goose eggs and fail the team.

you can bank this one. The trade (either name) will never come out of my mouth.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

We all turned on Holtby pretty fast lol