Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2018-19 We Are The Champions Edition - Pt. 7

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txpd

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Wait, are you saying Mackellan called down and told Reirden to bench Kuzy mid-game? ”

No. Of course not. What appears to have happened is that MacLellan had a meeting/meetings with Reirden during the break and went over things he was unhappy about. Reference the comments to the WaPo. At that time, he directed Reirden how he wanted that situation handled. Reirden told the team when they got back together what the new rules were. Kuzy broke the rule and got benched because that is what Reirden told them would happen which is what MacLellan told Reirden needed to happen.

It was all on the table when the team took the ice against Calgary.
 

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He said we'll find out. He means Reirden is getting a chance. There's no criticism in that.
It's not exactly a ringing endorsement, though. Reirden is relying a lot on internal team leadership and that's always been somewhat problematic. MacLellan openly wondering about his ability is not exactly circling the wagons or particularly helpful. Maybe the article hackneyed some context given but on the face of it he's letting the guy hang out there. Maybe that's needed right now to get more out of him but I'd have expected a more strategic response regarding a guy not likely going anywhere any time soon. He's Your Guy. Maybe it's less waffling on him based on recent results than the overall body of work regarding discipline so far this season. That's warranted but, still, as GM I would expect a more diplomatic response than that. It's on MacLellan to back him and to turn the screws and there wasn't any of that in that article. Again, maybe he did but the article didn't come across that way.
 
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I am the most chill person on these boards but goddamnit I am tired of getting called stupid every time I post something.

I'm not ****ing stupid, I have played, coached, and reffed at high levels of this game for twenty plus years. I may have a different opinion than someone but that doesn't make me ****ing stupid.

It's exhausting!!!

Put person people who call you stupid on your ignore list. It's the only way.
 

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They are most pivotal on that late in game draw, or on special teams..

Which is where Beagle was so strong. I recall hearing during the Boston game at when the late pp was about to start that the Caps had lost 15 o 16 face offs in the period.

Further. The Caps scored a ppg twice v tampa at the end of periods on pp's that started in the last 10 seconds or less in the period. face off win. goal. Backbreaker stuff.
 
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I'm probably alone in this but sending down Siegenthaler and replacing him with a top notch penalty killing D-man would do this team a world of good, IMO. Maybe even someone who can step up into Niskanens spot if need be.
 

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It's not exactly a ringing endorsement, though. Reirden is relying a lot on internal team leadership and that's always been somewhat problematic. MacLellan openly wondering about his ability is not exactly circling the wagons or particularly helpful. Maybe the article hackneyed some context given but on the face of it he's letting the guy hang out there. Maybe that's needed right now to get more out of him but I'd have expected a more strategic response regarding a guy not likely going anywhere any time soon. He's Your Guy. Maybe it's less waffling on him based on recent results than the overall body of work regarding discipline so far this season. That's warranted but, still, as GM I would expect a more diplomatic response than that. It's on MacLellan to back him and to turn the screws and there wasn't any of that in that article. Again, maybe he did but the article didn't come across that way.

One thing we aren’t discussing is GMBM and how he handles things. He’s blunt and direct and seemingly honest to a fault. Be it trades, team needs, FA signings, players performance, coaching, etc etc etc.

He’s always been that way. I think this is just more of the same.
 
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As for the comment about DSP needing a lot of time to get into shape / conditioning - seriously? He's a highly paid professional athlete - if he isn't in shape 50 games into the season maybe he shouldn't be a highly paid professional athlete. How many games does he need? All of them?
That was just my guess. Don't know what might be the other reason he's not getting scratched. But, I have limited knowledge about how really things work in the team.
 
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One thing we aren’t discussing is GMBM and how he handles things. He’s blunt and direct and seemingly honest to a fault. Be it trades, team needs, FA signings, players performance, coaching, etc etc etc.

He’s always been that way. I think this is just more of the same.
Yes, it's just him being him. It just seems rather aloof to assess things in a way that separates himself and his part in shaping relationships. A big part in being a quality GM is those relationships and I never get the sense he's that much of a relationship builder. So much of the support staff around him in the front office--arguably all of it, really--was already in place. Initially there was the belief that maybe Trotz wasn't 100% his guy but now? Are we to think this still isn't? Whatever Reirden may currently lack can be learned. But that process becomes harder if he's just going to be looking over his shoulder from now on. That article didn't do much in that regard (though, again, it may be that selective quotes were made). Pressure is needed, yes, and more urgency from everyone involved but the players are the ones that mostly need to look in the mirror and be better. Reirden is the one responsible and held accountable ultimately but it's not just him.
 

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Yes, it's just him being him. It just seems rather aloof to assess things in a way that separates himself and his part in shaping relationships. A big part in being a quality GM is those relationships and I never get the sense he's that much of a relationship builder. So much of the support staff around him in the front office--arguably all of it, really--was already in place. Initially there was the belief that maybe Trotz wasn't 100% his guy but now? Are we to think this still isn't? Whatever Reirden may currently lack can be learned. But that process becomes harder if he's just going to be looking over his shoulder from now on. That article didn't do much in that regard (though, again, it may be that selective quotes were made). Pressure is needed, yes, and more urgency from everyone involved but the players are the ones that mostly need to look in the mirror and be better. Reirden is the one responsible and held accountable ultimately but it's not just him.

Hence the recent quotes on 2&9 and on 92. BMac is pushing some buttons here, it would seem...buy using his usual candor in the media. Right or wrong, it’s his appeal to the situation. He HAS been a part of the org for a long long time, so you’d hope he understands the lay of the land as well as anyone.

It’s also not the first time he’s been this direct w players and/or coaches....but that was usually in the Summer, post a playoff meltdown. Maybe he sees this as similar (team playing below their level and needing his kicking from behind)....or perhaps he’s gotten a little cocky due to success. That can happen to the best of us.

We will see......
 
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That was just my guess. Don't know what might be the other reason he's not getting scratched. But, I have limited knowledge about how really things work in the team.

It is a mystery to me as well why he is getting so many games - I'm ashamed to admit I've stooped to conspiracy theory levels to try and understand it.
 
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How many times do I have to tell you that corsi is not a possession stat. The stat actually has zero to do with possession. It is a shot attempts stat.
Is that your knowledge if the game. If you want to judge a particular skill of a player watch him play. Can you not tell by watching? Or do you need your stats?
Wow
You dont have to have possession for very long to throw a low percentage shot on net. It only takes a second to fire a **** on net. On any particular shift a team could have possession for the majority of the shift but if they dont take any shots and your opponent does in their limited possession your corsi will be lower even though you controlled possession. It happens all the time.
A player that is on the ice as a defensive specialist is going to have a low corsi because he isn't shooting the puck. Why do you think Beagle was always near the bottom of the league in Corsi?
You guys are looking at corsi in an offensive manner. It is the most inaccurate stat in hockey.
Arrogant in your ignorance, as ever. Do you think that hockey teams spend excessive amounts of time in their own defensive zone playing keep away?

I'll try to explain this real simple for you: in hockey, the puck starts in the middle of the ice, and then the players move it around after that. Sometimes a good way to do this is by using your hockey stick to pass to other players on your team, but another way to do it is to put the puck as faaaaaar down the ice as possible, then chase it and set traps for the other team. It would be considered "successful" if you were to generate scoring opportunities and goals for your team, and less "successful" if you don't manage to do that.

Now here's where this gets complicated, I know. The first method is what you would call "possession" traditionally, but it doesn't account for the fact that everything done in the second method is as intentional. Teams don't score from the defensive zone, so traditional "puck on stick" possession times don't matter when they count every failed breakout and well-defended, shot-less shift. Your scenario, which totally "happens all the time", well what's even all that wrong with it? You would complain non-stop if Lars Eller cycled for a minute without getting the puck off the perimeter, then gave up a quick chance going the other way. You definitely wouldn't think Eller deserves a pat on the back for a good effort and shrug your shoulders at the rest.
 
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That would probably cost someone like Kuznetsov. Maaaybe Vrana+ if the Caps were lucky, but then there'd have to be a cap casualty as well.
I'm not saying that you're not right but the value is so off, that would be an embarrassing trade to make for the Caps. Similar to Hall for Larsson.
 
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