Friedman: Canucks will offer big money but short term to mystery ufa (possibly Carlson)

[DownGoesMcDavid]

According to Sportsnet 650 and Elliot Freidman, the Canucks will dangle a different approach this summer when it comes to free agency.

Apparently they are prepared to overpay a UFA player as long as the term is short. 3 yrs or under.

Speculation is that the mystery player is John Carlson and the offer would be 10mil/yr for 3 yrs.

This would allow Carlsson to still be a UFA at a prime age of 31 in 3 yrs.

The Canucks of course have 14 mil coming off the books w. The Sedins retiring.

The Canucks have gone on record saying they are going to be looking at UFAs that can help with the development of the young prospects that are about to take over the team.

The blue line is theyre biggest hole so its no surprise they would be targetting Carlsson.

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[Jumptheshark]

May we have a link of him either saying it or posting it

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Also note,

Friedman mentions the Canucks are also looking into obtaining bad contracts in exchange for assets and or draft picks.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

May we have a link of him either saying it or posting it

Ill add it when 650 puts up their podcast. It was on at 815 am pacific time here in Vancouver.

 

[justafan22]

In this case, why wouldn't a team just offer tavares league max for 3 years then?

 

[Brock Radunske]

According to Sportsnet 650 and Elliot Freidman, the Canucks will dangle a different approach this summer when it comes to free agency.

Apparently they are prepared to overpay a UFA player as long as the term is short. 3 yrs or under.

Speculation is that the mystery player is John Carlsson and the offer would be 10mil/yr for 3 yrs.

This would allow Carlsson to still be a UFA at a prime age of 31 in 3 yrs.

The Canucks of course have 14 mil coming off the books w. The Sedins retiring.

The Canucks have gone on record saying they are going to be looking at UFAs that can help with the development of the young prospects that are about to take over the team.

The blue line is theyre biggest hole so its no surprise they would be targetting Carlsson.

Honestly, that makes a lot of sense to me.

Sign him with the loads of cap-space the Nucks have, give the fans a little star power and your prospects a mentor.
The best part is, they can deal him at the deadline in 3 years and get a return similar to NYRs when they dealt McD.

It's a high risk, high reward play for Carlson though.

OT: Keep an eye out on this because it could turn into tampering.

 

[DarkHorse2]

Also note,

Friedman mentions the Canucks are also looking into obtaining bad contracts in exchange for assets and or draft picks.

Andrew Ladd and the lower first for....Anton Cederholm?

 

[rt]

If they front-load it, they could get a huge return at a future TDL (especially with retention).

Example:
Yr1-13m
Yr2-10m
Yr3-07m

Trade him Yr2 TDL with 50% retained. Acquiring team gets him for 5m cap-hit and very small amount of actual dollars. Under those circumstances, Carlson should be worth what McDonagh got.

 

[BHD]

Changed the title and OP.

 

[Peter Griffin]

In this case, why wouldn't a team just offer tavares league max for 3 years then?

Maybe Tavares is the mystery player?

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Andrew Ladd and the lower first for....Anton Cederholm?

Those are definitely the type of deals the Canucks would be looking to make

 

[CherryToke]

The mystery player is Chara

 

[DarkHorse2]

In this case, why wouldn't a team just offer tavares league max for 3 years then?

Because he could make more on a 7 or 8 year deal. A max contract this year at 3 year is 45 million.
If Tavares took just 7 million for 7 years, that's $49 million, guaranteed.
bump it up to $10 million, and that's $70 million. A short max contract is dumb if a longer contract is available. Ask Thomas Vanek if he regrets turning down $49 million from the Islanders.

 

[Tres Peleches]

Maybe Tavares is the mystery player?

Why would Tavares take a big money short term deal when he will be getting big money long-term offers?

 

[justafan22]

Why would Tavares take a big money short term deal when he will be getting big money long-term offers?

And why would he sign in a place that is basically the same situation as it was on the Island.

 

[Atoyot]

Maybe they should just accept that they're going to be bad for a couple years and use that to properly build a good team?

 

[Peter Griffin]

Those are definitely the type of deals the Canucks would be looking to make

I doubt it considering Ladd has five years left. My guess is like the mystery player, they'd be willing to take on shorter term contracts in the two, or maybe three year range.

 

[JuniorNelson]

I hope it isn't E.Kane.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Andrew Ladd and the lower first for....Anton Cederholm?

5 years of Ladd? Probably going to be paying more than that

 

[Peter Griffin]

Why would Tavares take a big money short term deal when he will be getting big money long-term offers?

I was being facetious. There's no way Tavares is signing in Vancouver. Someone like Carlsson could make sense if he's offerred a 2 year, $20M contract compared to a 7 year, $56M contract. He could conceivably cash in for this season and next and then sign a similar, or better contract in two years when he's 30. A bit risky on both sides though.

But the fact is, the Canucks' blueline is completely pathetic and they aren't going to be helping their young forwards in Boeser, Petterson, Gaudette, Dahlen etc if their defense can't effectively move the puck to them.

 

[Mr Positive]

It's a really smart move in a time when everyone obsessively focuses just on the individual AAV. Where it really pays off is in 3 years. You got Carlson in the door, and his next deal could be more reasonable. If you time it right, all your great young players will get their raises just as Carlson's monster contract expires.

 

[Marlo Stanfield]

Lucic + 2nd for a 7th.

Get a Vancouver guy (who could turn it around IMO - worst case LTIR in a few years) + a high 2nd.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Because he could make more on a 7 or 8 year deal. A max contract this year at 3 year is 45 million.
If Tavares took just 7 million for 7 years, that's $49 million, guaranteed.
bump it up to $10 million, and that's $70 million. A short max contract is dumb if a longer contract is available. Ask Thomas Vanek if he regrets turning down $49 million from the Islanders.

3 years x $15 million plus an additional LT contract signed at age 30 with 3 years of cap increases might be a lot more $'s than signing a LT contract now and a 3 year deal after that.

Of course, there's always the injury risk or the 'game going to shit' risk that would come along with it.

 

[UConn126]

The mystery player is Chara

Chara already signed an extension, so he won't be a UFA.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

How is this not tampering? They're essentially leaking potential contract details to a player currently under contract through "sources" and "speculation."