Confirmed with Link: Canucks Trade W Vasily Podkolzin to Oilers for 2025 4th (OTT)

[F A N]

F A N said it, so it must be true.

I'm pretty sure Robert's post wasn't directed at me.

 

[F A N]

Hard to believe Benning ever had the rope to blow 3 of 5 top 10 picks, and trade another.

Instead of getting credit for Hughes and EP40, people should just be thankful he didn't blow or deal those picks too.

I don't see why a GM wouldn't own his entire draft record with the exception of his first year where a new GM wouldn't typically get a chance to provide instructions and guidance to his scouts and change the personnell if needed. Ultimately it's his draft record.

Podkolzin was a reasonable pick. One that they got wrong (with Boldy sitting there). I don't blame them for not picking Caulfield if they had size concerns. There was and is zero indication that Brackett favoured or pushed for Boldy, a player that one would assume Brackett would be very familiar with given his MA roots.

 

[Curm]

I don't see why a GM wouldn't own his entire draft record with the exception of his first year where a new GM wouldn't typically get a chance to provide instructions and guidance to his scouts and change the personnell if needed. Ultimately it's his draft record.

Podkolzin was a reasonable pick. One that they got wrong (with Boldy sitting there). I don't blame them for not picking Caulfield if they had size concerns. There was and is zero indication that Brackett favoured or pushed for Boldy, a player that one would assume Brackett would be very familiar with given his MA roots.

I have no idea what Brackett's role was with the pick, but Boldy seemed to be a name connected to the Canucks around that time. Maybe they liked him, maybe it was that he was forecasted to be selected near where they were picking. It was a major miss, though.

 

[ManVanFan]

2019 draft had a lot of misses. Boldy, York, Caufield, Harley, McMichael (this year), might be the only players in the first that are that much better than Podz.

I was very up for trading down and picking Harley or Pinto in the late teens early 20s

 

[tantalum]

I don't see why a GM wouldn't own his entire draft record with the exception of his first year where a new GM wouldn't typically get a chance to provide instructions and guidance to his scouts and change the personnell if needed. Ultimately it's his draft record.

In general ya you give the first year a pass as often a new GM hired at the start of the off season is forbidden from participating in that draft as a condition of the hire. Interestingly, Benning was not forbidden AND he was coming from a role where he was the guy putting together the draft stuff for the Bruins. It's a case where a GM does get to own that first draft as he was able to use his knowledge and prioritization from his previous job if he so wanted. And I think he did on the Virtanen pick.

But that's completely an aside....

 

[Jyrki21]

I have no idea what Brackett's role was with the pick, but Boldy seemed to be a name connected to the Canucks around that time. Maybe they liked him, maybe it was that he was forecasted to be selected near where they were picking. It was a major miss, though.

I think Boldy's name came up more in projections on this site (and possibly others) than from rumors of actual interest.

Podkolzin, from what I understand, was a rare Brackett miss. I think he's been reported as pushing for him.

 

[Lindgren]

I think Boldy's name came up more in projections on this site (and possibly others) than from rumors of actual interest.

Podkolzin, from what I understand, was a rare Brackett miss. I think he's been reported as pushing for him.

I was impressed by the Podkolzin pick at the time, simply because of the KHL contract he was locked into. I expected Benning to go for a player he could force into the line-up immediately.

Then the excuses for the lack of production began (from fans), and on and on ...

 

[God]

sometimes a player just doesn't work out. i don't think there were any major red flags with podz, and it's not like there were obvious choices instead of him at the time.

the year before, we had a major hit with quinn hughes because i don't think anybody expected his development curve to skyrocket like it did. and podz's didn't. whatever.

 

[VanillaCoke]

sometimes a player just doesn't work out. i don't think there were any major red flags with podz, and it's not like there were obvious choices instead of him at the time.

the year before, we had a major hit with quinn hughes because i don't think anybody expected his development curve to skyrocket like it did. and podz's didn't. whatever.

LOL there were definitely both major red flags and massively obvious better choices at the time.

He didn't work out because he was very clearly never very good, same reason he won't work out in Edmonton, khl quality player.

 

[God]

LOL there were definitely both major red flags and massively obvious better choices at the time.

He didn't work out because he was very clearly never very good, same reason he won't work out in Edmonton, khl quality player.

which were the red flags? both him and boldy were two-way wingers but podz had the size, skating, and physicality that boldy didn't have, but didn't produce as well. and for every cole caufield there are probably five zach boychuks.

i just don't think this is the massive reach that something like juolevi over tkachuk was. podz's floor was probably seen as higher than most other prospects. kakko is a similar prototype - produced insanely well in the finnish men's league as a 17 year old, was picked 2nd overall, and still got out developed by boldy. it's not an exact science.