Which comes to the 2nd point, Forbort was scratched for most of the playoffs, the most important time of the year. And he’s just our 5th D…
Honestly are Forbort and Desharnais any better than Juulsen or Friedman? It's honestly hilarious how bad they are. Really missing Ian Cole right now, who has looked FANTASTIC in Utah. The fact that Forbort and Desharnais make more than Cole combined is PA'S first head scratcher.
I think the jury is still out but I think ultimately yes.
Forbort is veteran NHL player who has some mileage on him. Certainly in his prime he's proven to be better than Juulsen and Friedman. Absent further age and injury-related the odds are he's better.
Desharnais I can't really say. Allvin is obviously betting that he's better given the contract that was handed out to him.
The Canucks did try to re-sign Cole but we obviously didn't offer him the $3M he wanted and he got even more from Utah. And speaking of Cole, I think he might have carried Juulsen a bit. It'll be interesting to see how Juulsen plays this season away from Cole.
Friedman I think is at a disadvantage given he doesn't PK and Juulsen played a lot last season.
forbort tho was a miscalculation on allvin's part imo. if they had a more dependable/experienced guy to play with him on the bottom pairing you could maybe get away with it but the prospect of forbort/desharnais or forbort/myers is horrific
There was no coming back for Cole between the 3M cap hit and his series against Edmonton. Just the kind of thing a player needs a fresh start afterHonestly are Forbort and Desharnais any better than Juulsen or Friedman? It's honestly hilarious how bad they are. Really missing Ian Cole right now, who has looked FANTASTIC in Utah. The fact that Forbort and Desharnais make more than Cole combined is PA'S first head scratcher.
I don't disagree with your assessment here, but I'm not sure what you mean by dependable/experienced guy to play with Forbort. Myers is experienced (dependability can be argued). Our other RD options are suppose to be dependable (albeit limited). While NHL games experience might be somewhat lacking, I wouldn't say Desharnais/Juulsen/Friedman are inexperienced at this point.
Desharnais with his second straight healthy scratch. Is the year that the usual off-season UFA signings on the blueline finally blow up on their faces?
You can plug the blueline holes with free agent signings for only so long.
i just mean myers is also a guy who needs a steady partner and needs to be sheltered a bit. playing two of those guys together is a recipe for disaster
6 year 30 mil contract was just too much to pay for a #4/5 guy. This is his 5th team in 4 years and he's had a history of getting complacent and falling into a routine of taking stupid penalties and getting lazy defensively.Should have brought Zadorov back......signing Forbort and Desharnais smacked of 'desperation' after they lost big Z's size and truculence.
I'd have rather seen Zadorov paired with somebody from Abbotsford making somewhere around the league minimum, rather than the depth defenders they're trotting out there right now.
I wanted him back the whole time. Not sure why we wasted our cap on Meyers + AHL fodder instead of a legit top 4 guy.6 year 30 mil contract was just too much to pay for a #4/5 guy. This is his 5th team in 4 years and he's had a history of getting complacent and falling into a routine of taking stupid penalties and getting lazy defensively.
He was awesome in his short stint in Vancouver but the risk wasn't worth it.
In hindsight, we should have pursued Tanev....
What makes you think Tanev wanted to come here? This isn't Shangri-La.6 year 30 mil contract was just too much to pay for a #4/5 guy. This is his 5th team in 4 years and he's had a history of getting complacent and falling into a routine of taking stupid penalties and getting lazy defensively.
He was awesome in his short stint in Vancouver but the risk wasn't worth it.
In hindsight, we should have pursued Tanev....
What makes you think Tanev wanted to come here? This isn't Shangri-La.
How do we know he didn't want to come here? What is known is we seemingly had no interest in pursing him and elected for quantity.
Simple, he isn't here. Hughes loved the guy "Dad", RHD, PK player so ya the team wanted him.How do we know he didn't want to come here? What is known is we seemingly had no interest in pursing him and elected for quantity.