Confirmed Signing with Link: Canucks sign Olli Juolevi to 3-Year ELC

[Coaches Coroner]

Ya lol he is much better

"Much" is an overstatement, having seen him more times than I can keep track of this past season and having seen Sergachyov around 8 times in the OHL this year. Currently, you could argue Sergachyov is better (won best D in the OHL this season, over Juolevi). I think Juolevi is smarter but they're similar offensively. Juolevi is has better defensive positioning and awareness, but Sergachyov is no slouch, is stronger and more physical. They are fairly close.

I like this.

Olli haters can go sit in a dark corner somewhere, us belivers will gladly see how he develops and becomes a steady and important presence on the Vancouver blueline for years and years to come.

Should be going back to juniors this season tho. Which is totally the best thing for him right now.

It's hilarious how much Canuck players are underrated on here.
The haters are jealous. Olli is gonna be a star #1 D.
If juolevi was drafted by Chicago, they would agree.

It's okay. Haters be hating. We love it Keep being salty.

What "hate" are you talking about? London fans and people who saw him in London all year seem to think he's more of a #2/3, which is still a very good NHL defender. Are we really getting so dramatic that we are calling those assessments "hate"? . It's hilarious how several people are talking about haters, and minus one obvious troll calling him a bust, the worst thing anyone is said about him is that he might only have #2/3 potential. I guess on HF if people don't share your most-optimistic view of a player, they are "haters". When you stop bringing valid information to support your view and result to labeling or name calling to dismiss the other sides opinion, you're argument probably isn't as strong as you think.

He's going to be a very good player, no need to overreact.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

"Much" is an overstatement, having seen him more times than I can keep track of this past season and having seen Sergachyov around 8 times in the OHL this year. Currently, you could argue Sergachyov is better (won best D in the OHL this season, over Juolevi). I think Juolevi is smarter but they're similar offensively. Juolevi is has better defensive positioning and awareness, but Sergachyov is no slouch, is stronger and more physical. They are fairly close.




What "hate" are you talking about? London fans and people who saw him in London all year seem to think he's more of a #2/3, which is still a very good NHL defender. Are we really getting so dramatic that we are calling those assessments "hate"? . It's hilarious how several people are talking about haters, and minus one obvious troll calling him a bust, the worst thing anyone is said about him is that he might only have #2/3 potential. I guess on HF if people don't share your most-optimistic view of a player, they are "haters". When you stop bringing valid information to support your view and result to labeling or name calling to dismiss the other sides opinion, you're argument probably isn't as strong as you think.

He's going to be a very good player, no need to overreact.

This is where I think he'll end up as well.

Valuable piece, but I was very disappointed with the pick at 5.

Won't hold it against the kid, though—look forward to watching him on the Canucks in a few years.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

"Much" is an overstatement, having seen him more times than I can keep track of this past season and having seen Sergachyov around 8 times in the OHL this year. Currently, you could argue Sergachyov is better (won best D in the OHL this season, over Juolevi). I think Juolevi is smarter but they're similar offensively. Juolevi is has better defensive positioning and awareness, but Sergachyov is no slouch, is stronger and more physical. They are fairly close.




What "hate" are you talking about? London fans and people who saw him in London all year seem to think he's more of a #2/3, which is still a very good NHL defender. Are we really getting so dramatic that we are calling those assessments "hate"? . It's hilarious how several people are talking about haters, and minus one obvious troll calling him a bust, the worst thing anyone is said about him is that he might only have #2/3 potential. I guess on HF if people don't share your most-optimistic view of a player, they are "haters". When you stop bringing valid information to support your view and result to labeling or name calling to dismiss the other sides opinion, you're argument probably isn't as strong as you think.

He's going to be a very good player, no need to overreact.

I'm no expert or anything but isn't it a little presumptuous to say a player will be this or that after watching him play one season in a league he is not used to on an ice surface he is not used to as an 17 year old?

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

No, I'm just saying that people expecting a top pairing bonafide #1 should tamper their expectations.
Won't likely be an all-star or a top 30 defenseman...

Nevertheless should carve out a solid career.

After watching him for one year and with all of the context of the situation how can you possibly say that?

 

[Canucks LB]

Go watch the Canada vs USA game and see how important transition, puck movers who can pass are. Both teams can barely makes a pass except maybe Fox on USA

 

[RandV]

The development of Prospect defensemen tends to be pretty random. Right now at 18 Juolevi projects to be a #2-3 type in the NHL. Whether he ends up better or worse is up to chance, anyone calling it now who gets it right are just getting lucky.

 

[X66]

He's going to be very good, solid pick IMO.

Has top pairing potential

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

I'm on the fence, I would have rather gone for even a Sergachev but Olli was the safe pick. He will most certainly be a decent #3 dman. Probably something the Canucks needed less than other options there. Only credit I will give them is d-men are getting traded for ridiculous amounts right now... so there is that I suppose.

 

[MardyBum]

Who considered Drouin to be better than Barkov. Barkov had a generational draft season in one of the toughest pro leagues in a lockout year, Barkov proved he can flat out dominate lockout players like M. Koivu in head to head play. Only Forsberg can claim a better professional U18 season. Barkov was considered to be on MacKinnons level, only question was whether Jones would go first second or third.

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2013-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings

None had Barkov > Drouin, MacK or Jones. Some had Drouin > MacK, one had Drouin > Mack/Jones.

Nichushkin was > Barkov by a few as well.

Edit : At the time of the draft it was a surprise Barkov was taken. The argument was they wanted the big C over a W or D man



Also : Lol @ Pierre. Love him.

Edit : Forgot this was a Juloevi signing thread. Sooo off topic lol.

I'd like to see Juolevi get the 9 game treatment if he plays well during the preseason, but he should probably go back to London for another year.

 

[Advanced stats]

After watching him for one year and with all of the context of the situation how can you possibly say that?

Based on seeing him play 15-20 games and comparing him to other defenders I've seen?

I can't come close to predicting the future or what Juolevi ends up as, but based on what I've seen and know, Olli just isn't dynamic enough to be a bonafide #1. More of a compliment than someone you build your defense corps around.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Glad they signed him - he'll get his $92k bonus or whatever it is this year. He'll be back in London. He's not NHL ready yet. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back the next two years, actually (although I'm on the fence re his 19 yr old season. We'll how he does this season).

The Canucks chose well with him. I'd expected Tkachuk to be the first Knight selected, but can't criticize the choice. I think he'll be a good player in the league for a long time.

 

[TL12]

jim bonner obviously sees something in the kid

 

[rajinikanthfan1]

Calling any drafted player(especially a 1st rounder) a bust before they even see the ice is incredibly shallow and juvenal.

That said, It seems Benning broke the golden rule of drafting, picking need over best player available.

sorry if i offended you canucks need a scorer

 

[turkulad]

sorry if i offended you canucks need a scorer

Canucks need young bluechipper FWD's and D's. Pretty much everything. D's take longer to develop than FWD. Hence taking Juolevi even from that draft-for-need-perspective is good thinking.

 

[ddawg1950]

sorry if i offended you canucks need a scorer

You did not offend anyone.

Just revealed yourself.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

He was the safe choice. Likely has #2 potential.

Excited to see how he progresses.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Based on seeing him play 15-20 games and comparing him to other defenders I've seen?

I can't come close to predicting the future or what Juolevi ends up as, but based on what I've seen and know, Olli just isn't dynamic enough to be a bonafide #1. More of a compliment than someone you build your defense corps around.

The best scout on the planet would not take a small sample size like that and use it to determine such a bold prediction.

 

[Pestilence]

Calling any drafted player(especially a 1st rounder) a bust before they even see the ice is incredibly shallow and juvenal.

That said, It seems Benning broke the golden rule of drafting, picking need over best player available.

Dunno, Juolevi isn't likely to hit the ice this season anyway, with Tkachuk they could've had a roster player for now.

 

[Siludin]

Dunno, Juolevi isn't likely to hit the ice this season anyway, with Tkachuk they could've had a roster player for now.

Why would Tkachuk be a roster player after his draft season if Marner wasn't a roster player after his draft season? I didn't see Strome on the Coyotes this year, for instance.

Tkachuk will have to prove he can do it without Marner this year in London.

 

[Zaddy91]

I'm no expert or anything but isn't it a little presumptuous to say a player will be this or that after watching him play one season in a league he is not used to on an ice surface he is not used to as an 17 year old?

facts shmacts

 

[Face Of Bear]

Definitely thought this was an off the board pick for VAN. Probably could have got him be trading down - or they could have just drafted the better Dman at #5 - Sergachev. They passed over several more promising forwards as well. Odd pick.

That said, despite passing on better players, Joulevi will still likely be a decent contributor for VAN one day. Once they round out their team with some young speedy forwards he'll work great for their transition game.

 

[Advanced stats]

The best scout on the planet would not take a small sample size like that and use it to determine such a bold prediction.

Well feel free to disregard my opinion than. I thought I'd just add my .2¢ as I feel I've seen him play a lot more than the vast majority of posters here.(yourself included)

And for what it's worth, there's a lot of people here saying he won't likely be a #1 defender. I'd love for him to prove that wrong though.

 

[Canucks LB]

Definitely thought this was an off the board pick for VAN. Probably could have got him be trading down - or they could have just drafted the better Dman at #5 - Sergachev. They passed over several more promising forwards as well. Odd pick.

That said, despite passing on better players, Joulevi will still likely be a decent contributor for VAN one day. Once they round out their team with some young speedy forwards he'll work great for their transition game.

Trending down?, off the board? he was the 6th overall player on a ton of rankings, lowest #9

He has been doing nothing but trending UP in the past 4 months, bypassing literally every other D in the draft.

 

[eviohh26*]

Definitely thought this was an off the board pick for VAN. Probably could have got him be trading down - or they could have just drafted the better Dman at #5 - Sergachev. They passed over several more promising forwards as well. Odd pick.

That said, despite passing on better players, Joulevi will still likely be a decent contributor for VAN one day. Once they round out their team with some young speedy forwards he'll work great for their transition game.

I'll bet you my entire pog collection Joulevi will be the better D-Man 5 years from now.

 

[ottawa]

Its contracts like these that caused the last 2 lockouts.

Thanks Benning.

It's just a standard ELC contract that most 1st rounders get...no big deal.