Rumor: Canucks: Should I stay or should I go? Pete stays and Miller goes!

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I understand the league just fine. I just think it's interesting you're rushing to let your front office off the hook for a trade that they're going to lose and have started on damage control mode before it's even made.

Miller scored 100 points last year. It doesn't matter that he's old or a piece of shit, that is worth a lot. Particularly for a team starving for offense and star power. It wasn't that long ago that you lot had him in the same tier of player as Leon Draisaitl, and Miller has been a toxic POS for years now. That won't be news to anyone. You guys also said he was a bargain at his cap hit. His age won't matter to a team that wants to win now. That leaves... what, trade restrictions? Half the damn league has trade restrictions.

And yes, it's funny, as a fan of a rival team it's downright f***in hilarious. If it was us that this was happening to you guys would be downright cackling with glee. It's even funnier now that you're getting so worked up about it in a quest to justify your front office getting fleeced before they've even been fleeced.

what are you even debating here? your lack of understanding of perceived value? or trying to convince canucks fans to hope for a bigger return (that definitely makes no sense) because....? either way you are not using any logic here
 
...didn't say Jersey should do it...just that the cost would be him if they want Miller, imo...
Chytil, 1st and Lindgren or a prospect (Sykora, Chmelar or someone like that) was the rumored offer from the Rangers. So why the Devils should pay Mercer and Nemec for Miller? I mean Chytil, 1st and Lindgren or a prospect << Mercer and Nemec.

The Devils can make similar package without sacrificing Nemec.
 
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I like Miller and think he is a very good player, but he is being consistently overrated in terms of trade value. Currently 31, making 8 million/year until he's 37. He's not likely* to produce like he did nor at that cap value for several years of that remaining term. His reputation might weaken his value, his potential demands for trade location might weaken his value and the endless media drama might weaken the Canucks leverage.

The rumors/speculation about the possible returns in a trade with the Devils and Rangers are not popular with Canucks fans here it seems. If something like those rumors come true, Vancouver fans are going to be disappointed and they're probably going to be winners of this trade within a year or two.
 
Chytil, 1st and Lindgren or a prospect (Sykora, Chmelar or someone like that) was the rumored offer from the Rangers. So why the Devils should pay Mercer and Nemec for Miller? I mean Chytil, 1st and Lindgren or a prospect << Mercer and Nemec.

The Devils can make similar package without sacrificing Nemec.
You do know that the trade didn't happen because it was deemed to not be enough
 
I like Miller and think he is a very good player, but he is being consistently overrated in terms of trade value. Currently 31, making 8 million/year until he's 37. He's not likely* to produce like he did nor at that cap value for several years of that remaining term. His reputation might weaken his value, his potential demands for trade location might weaken his value and the endless media drama might weaken the Canucks leverage.

The rumors/speculation about the possible returns in a trade with the Devils and Rangers are not popular with Canucks fans here it seems. If something like those rumors come true, Vancouver fans are going to be disappointed and they're probably going to be winners of this trade within a year or two.

Miller has trade value no doubt but yes, it's a 31-37 with a NMC and a high cap hit. He's not showing signs of slowing down with his skating and compete level so the next 4/5 years should be great hockey IMO. It's the 35+ years I would have concerns about.

Canucks don't want a little retool or setback. They want to remain competitive so they give Hughes good reason to stay. I'm not sure if they get in the playoffs but what I can see happening is they consider some moves this offseason to improve the team. They don't have to trade Miller and they have time to figure this out.
 
Chytil, 1st and Lindgren or a prospect (Sykora, Chmelar or someone like that) was the rumored offer from the Rangers. So why the Devils should pay Mercer and Nemec for Miller? I mean Chytil, 1st and Lindgren or a prospect << Mercer and Nemec.

The Devils can make similar package without sacrificing Nemec.
Yeah that's a super crap return for VAN. Would be a firestorm

You do know that the trade didn't happen because it was deemed to not be enough
No, it was reported that it was because of disagreement on the protections for the 1st round pick.
 
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So JT’s salary and cap hit keeps getting brought up, what isn’t getting brought up is the cap is likely going up over 100 million in the next few years. 8 million for top 6 player like JT doesn’t seem like such a hard number to fit in on a contending team. I think this thing could get dragged into the summer. It allows other teams who may not be involved in talks to open up cap space
 

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