Rumor: Canucks: Should I stay or should I go? Pete stays and Miller goes!

[kvladimir]

Did someone finally tell them they are allowed to trade the assets they get from this deal in another deal for different assets? Right on!

 

[Peter Griffin]

Did someone finally tell them they are allowed to trade the assets they get from this deal in another deal for different assets? Right on!

You’re acting like they didn’t do exactly that with the Horvat/Hronek trades. The issue now is maybe there wasn’t something like that they deemed a possibility in the near future.

 

[sting101]

Good grief what a bunch of speculative drivel.

Nobody knows jack other than teams are calling about players and specifically are trying to poach Miller or Pettersson while there is some issues.

The Canucks leak nothing so insiders claiming to have the handle on what held up a deal is pretty funny.

Its there jobs to see what they could get back for players and the trade deadline is approaching.....click click click clickity clack click

 

[AirGut]

Oh please no, that package was so atrocious, it will set the Canucks back years

Idk man, the main piece of that package was Filip Chytil and I'm convinced Chytil will turn into a dynamic 60+ point C one of these days as long as he stays healthy. He's gotten bigger and this year he's been able to take some big boy hits without floundering. Last year while he was injured and in Czech he was training with Jagr which I love to see.

He's been one of my favorites on the team for awhile despite being confused & angry the Rangers drafted him at #21 instead of Yamamoto in 2017. I think he'd be deadly on Vancouver as a 2C and would somewhat make up for the loss of J.T.

 

[dgibb10]

Floated this on the Canes board.

To Carolina
Miller (no retention)

To Vancouver
Kotkaniemi
Roslovic
Suzuki
pick (2nd, 1st is possible with an add from Van)

Suzuki is a very good prospect, will likely get NHL time in the very near future, but just for some reason hasn't been able to crack the code here in Raleigh.

-Drafted in 2019, failed to make NHL.
-went unclaimed on waivers
-not even deemed worthy of a 1 way contract, and even his 2 way contract has a pitiful 70k minors salary
-nothing special in the AHL

Clearly an elite level prospect

 

[Eggtimers]

If the Canucks were interested in a rebuild this trade would have been completed already, this management group is looking for roster players and the prospects and picks would most likely be used to get other roster players.

If looking for roster players , IF NJ is actually in on Miller , Mercer would probably be the best option out of who has been mentioned as possible trade assets no ? Or would Chytil be seen as good / better ? Or Schneider or K Miller ?

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

K’Andre Miller hopefully is in the deal. Guys having a bad season and now’s the time to get him. I’d rather have him over Schneider and Lafrenier.

 

[Raistlin]

If looking for roster players , IF NJ is actually in on Miller , Mercer would probably be the best option out of who has been mentioned as possible trade assets no ? Or would Chytil be seen as good / better ? Or Schneider or K Miller ?

Mercer probably more value than Chytil right now. Chytil injury history is Byram bad. Mercer not really a full time C though, NJ has better prospects, but NYR's first round pick has a lot more value.

trading with both these teams (and carolina) are much better than Boston, so let the Metro arms race float Miller's price.

 

[ginner classic]

Thank god.

 

[ginner classic]

Did someone finally tell them they are allowed to trade the assets they get from this deal in another deal for different assets? Right on!

To be fair, Benning could never figure that out.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

I like Arty snipes.

Yay another offside challenge delay. So enthralling.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

-Drafted in 2019, failed to make NHL.
-went unclaimed on waivers
-not even deemed worthy of a 1 way contract, and even his 2 way contract has a pitiful 70k minors salary
-nothing special in the AHL

Clearly an elite level prospect

I’m very low on Suzuki but it’s worth noting this his development was severely hindered by a significant eye injury he had several years ago, and that he seems to be over at this point. I wouldn’t consider him a key piece in any trade, probably equivalent value of like a late 2nd/3rd round pick, but just pointing out some context

 

[dgibb10]

I’m very low on Suzuki but it’s worth noting this his development was severely hindered by a significant eye injury he had several years ago, and that he seems to be over at this point. I wouldn’t consider him a key piece in any trade, probably equivalent value of like a late 2nd/3rd round pick, but just pointing out some context

If any team in the NHL valued him at a 2nd round pick, said team would have claimed him on waivers.

If valuing a guy who passed through waivers at a 2nd round pick is "very low on him" I don't know what to tell you.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

If any team in the NHL valued him at a 2nd round pick, said team would have claimed him on waivers.

If valuing a guy who passed through waivers at a 2nd round pick is "very low on him" I don't know what to tell you.

Not really. A team claiming him on waivers would've had to keep him on their NHL roster at the time. I think you're overrating what a late 2nd or 3rd round pick is worth. It's pretty much nothing. Which is what I think Suzuki is worth. If you value picks that much then I'll amend my statement and say he's worth a 6th round pick. Happy? To me, there's pretty much no difference between pick in the 60s and a pick in the late 100s. All a random crapshoot at that point.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Mittelstadt + Cal Ritchie + 1st

 

[Peter Griffin]

Mittelstadt + Cal Ritchie + 1st

Sure.

 

[AirGut]

Mercer probably more value than Chytil right now. Chytil injury history is Byram bad. Mercer not really a full time C though, NJ has better prospects, but NYR's first round pick has a lot more value.

trading with both these teams (and carolina) are much better than Boston, so let the Metro arms race float Miller's price.

Devs are NOT trading Mercer in ANY deal. Sorry.

 

[The don godfather]

Mittelstadt + Cal Ritchie + 1st

That's a decent package but will salaries fit?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

That's a decent package but will salaries fit?

That’s why I warmed you up with little detail. Y’all gonna retain 2M?

 

[n8]

Devs are NOT trading Mercer in ANY deal. Sorry.

I like Craig Button saying that if he was the NJ GM, he'd ‘put Simon Nemec on a bicycle up to Vancouver’
People usually say stuff like drive the player to the airport. Making the kid bike cross country to Vancouver is unnecessarily cruel.

 

[theguybro]

Devils have about 2.7 million in cap space . To take on Millers full cap hit Dawson Mercer at 4 million and Tatar at 1.8 would have to be going the other way . I highly doubt that canucks would want to retain . Haula has NTC and Palat has NMC and I don’t see them trading siegenthaler so not many candidates to even out the salaries . So Mercer & Tatar plus what for Miller ?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Devils have about 2.7 million in cap space . To take on Millers full cap hit Dawson Mercer at 4 million and Tatar at 1.8 would have to be going the other way . I highly doubt that canucks would want to retain . Haula has NTC and Palat has NMC and I don’t see them trading siegenthaler so not many candidates to even out the salaries . So Mercer & Tatar plus what for Miller ?

...the answer is Nemec...Jersey doesn't like it, but that's probably what it would take...