Confirmed with Link: Canucks Re-Sign G Arturs Silovs to 2-Year Contract, $0.85M AAV Contract

[ellja3]

That makes sense, thanks for clarifying.

It's stupid, even local media cannot get their crap together. Watching pre-game studio now (Latvia - Slovenia), where they are mixing words ''concern'' and ''injury'' in the same sentence. Maybe it's indeed a micro-injury as Irbe said in the quote above, but out-of-context headlines/reports here ever since yesterday's announcements are everywhere.

Edit: head coach talking about many factors influencing him being left out of the squad, and Šilovs feeling slight discomfort. Irbe confirming it's a micro-injury.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

That was nasty from the Canucks. We don't have s many quality goalies who can steal games. IMHO. I don't believe one bit he's injured. People don't want him play.

 

[strattonius]

Somebody needs to ask the organization at some point why the Hell this keeps happening.

While we're at it let's question every.single MLB organization who had a pitcher get Tommy John's surgery just WHY of WHY this could be happening.

Apologies for the sarcasm. But these hellbent fandom takes irritate me. What are you even questioning? Who is going to question them?

It's an overworked ligament for a goaltender, much like the ligament in the elbow for MLB pitchers. No one needs to be questioned or confronted - there is no conspiracy here.

 

[F A N]

While we're at it let's question every.single MLB organization who had a pitcher get Tommy John's surgery just WHY of WHY this could be happening.

Apologies for the sarcasm. But these hellbent fandom takes irritate me. What are you even questioning? Who is going to question them?

It's an overworked ligament for a goaltender, much like the ligament in the elbow for MLB pitchers. No one needs to be questioned or confronted - there is no conspiracy here.

Not to take away from your post, but there's actually a good answer for that. My understanding is that pitchers these days come up trying to throw as hard as they can and often don't have the best mechanics. They therefore add extra torque and stress to their arms compared to a pitcher with smooth mechanics who don't try to throw as hard as they can to up their velocity.

I wonder if we'll see more goalies play more of a hybrid style. It would be tough going against the grain.

 

[TruGr1t]

While we're at it let's question every.single MLB organization who had a pitcher get Tommy John's surgery just WHY of WHY this could be happening.

Apologies for the sarcasm. But these hellbent fandom takes irritate me. What are you even questioning? Who is going to question them?

It's an overworked ligament for a goaltender, much like the ligament in the elbow for MLB pitchers. No one needs to be questioned or confronted - there is no conspiracy here.

Terrible comparison. Even without the vast differences in the sports, it is anatomically a bad comparison.

The question is, why are all our goalies overworked.

 

[theguardianII]

While we're at it let's question every.single MLB organization who had a pitcher get Tommy John's surgery just WHY of WHY this could be happening.

Apologies for the sarcasm. But these hellbent fandom takes irritate me. What are you even questioning? Who is going to question them?

It's an overworked ligament for a goaltender, much like the ligament in the elbow for MLB pitchers. No one needs to be questioned or confronted - there is no conspiracy here.

Not even close.

Consider past east knee injuries to other players.
Price - knee ligaments - finished his career
Selanne - knee - 3 years of playing like crap then surgeries and maore than a year of rehab then a come back and was still much slower than before
Landeskog - knee -2 years and counting
Orr - knees' -finished him.

Others I can't name off the tip of my tongue right now. Some had their careers finished or ended up being markedly slower after.

Tommy John surgery often makes the elbow stronger with almost 90+% success. I think I can remember some pitchers wanting it without a previous injury. But pitch counts I guess are reducing those.
Player with ACL/MCL surgeries don't usually come back earlier and are faster, maybe after a full year they might be able to get close. Mikheyev was just starting to get most of his speed back after close to a year after the injury.

Ya, the blind faith of fanatics, don't worry be happy. Standings don't matter, points don't matter, who is on the team doesn't matter BUT which player has a cute dog or cute nickname or flowing locks are the deciding factors.

Most posters here don't have a clue at the cost of attending a game or season tickets prices. When I had my company we spent well over 100K over some years on company tickets and watched or were told about promised improvements until they finally had a wait list and then it was you don't want they even after a decade of supporting them then don't FO angry, just FO, we have another sucker lined up.

 

[mossey3535]

If the LHF quotes are true, why did he only take a month off?

They got eliminated May 21, he starts training June 12? That's crazy to me.

For context, Da Beauty League started games July 10th, They're not playing super seriously so for some of the pros I'm sure that was the start of their preparation. That would have been a little under 2 months off, more for guys who didn't go deep into the playofffs.

I know Vasilevsky has taken at least two months off in the past.

 

[rypper]

Not every knee injury is the same.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Somebody needs to ask the organization at some point why the Hell this keeps happening.

Yep. Agree.

 

[VanJack]

Assuming they're healthy, you'd have to say the Canucks have one of the most cost-effective goaltending tandems in the entire league. You've got the perennial Vezina candidate in Demko earning $5m a season; and his backup Silovs coming in at $850,000.

There are teams around the NHL paying five and six million; or even up to $10 million for a single goalie. Cheap but effective net-minding is the reason the Canucks were able to go out and add five UFA forwards and two guys on the blueline this off-season, and still come in slightly below the salary cap threshhold.

 

[iceburg]

Bumping this thread because it is time to make a decision on Silovs. It's actually hard to watch. None of the goals last nigh were egregious. But as the coach and others have said, he is playing small. It appears that his confidence is at a low.
He still has lots of time to establish himself as an NHL goalie. I'm not sure he's getting the right coaching. And I'm pretty certain that he is in the wrong place to work on his game. Throwing him in once every two weeks to fail is not good for his development. He needs to be playing 2 or 3 times a week where he can build off of each performance.
Time for the AHL. I would call up Tolopilo or Patera until Demko gets back.

 

[HairyKneel]

Bumping this thread because it is time to make a decision on Silovs. It's actually hard to watch. None of the goals last nigh were egregious. But as the coach and others have said, he is playing small. It appears that his confidence is at a low.
He still has lots of time to establish himself as an NHL goalie. I'm not sure he's getting the right coaching. And I'm pretty certain that he is in the wrong place to work on his game. Throwing him in once every two weeks to fail is not good for his development. He needs to be playing 2 or 3 times a week where he can build off of each performance.
Time for the AHL. I would call up Tolopilo or Patera until Demko gets back.

He has the same coaching as everyone else.

 

[iceburg]

He has the same coaching as everyone else.

All other goalies in the org are established (except for Tolopilo but he hasn't exactly blown anybody away this year). While I'm not sure whether it's coaching or not, it is different for a 23 year old trying to figure it out.

 

[TruGr1t]

Bumping this thread because it is time to make a decision on Silovs. It's actually hard to watch. None of the goals last nigh were egregious. But as the coach and others have said, he is playing small. It appears that his confidence is at a low.
He still has lots of time to establish himself as an NHL goalie. I'm not sure he's getting the right coaching. And I'm pretty certain that he is in the wrong place to work on his game. Throwing him in once every two weeks to fail is not good for his development. He needs to be playing 2 or 3 times a week where he can build off of each performance.
Time for the AHL. I would call up Tolopilo or Patera until Demko gets back.

They obviously don't have much faith in the two Abbotsford guys being an upgrade. At this point, sounds like Demko is quite close to returning. Suspect they'll just wait it out and Silovs will be sent down when Demko's back.

 

[iceburg]

They obviously don't have much faith in the two Abbotsford guys being an upgrade. At this point, sounds like Demko is quite close to returning. Suspect they'll just wait it out and Silovs will be sent down when Demko's back.

This is probably the route they’ll take. I’m just not sure another two starts will help Silovs or the team. If Demko is back sooner than that, great.

 

[credulous]

they were seemingly confident going into the season with patera/silovs so i don't really understand why they're hesitant now to call up patera. he's been fine in abbotsford as far as i can tell?

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

He needs time on the farm to build his confidence back up, and fine tune some of the points of his game (shots from distance). He looks rattled right now.

There is no goalie on the farm who is really as good or better to call up in his place. Tolopilo and Patera have both been inconsistent, and Young is a rookie with a handful of games under his belt - but once Demko is healthy, there’s going to be a logjam of bodies and something will have to give.

 

[EpochLink]

Absolutely terrible, lost his starting job the first game of the season and has been absolute ass since.

 

[Blue and Green]

they were seemingly confident going into the season with patera/silovs so i don't really understand why they're hesitant now to call up patera. he's been fine in abbotsford as far as i can tell?

Patera is injured.

 

[Nuckles]

It kills any momentum to start games when you give up the 1st goal so early every time