Confirmed with Link: Canucks Re-Sign G Arturs Silovs to 2-Year Contract, $0.85M AAV Contract

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[Vector]

Two year deal but no idea what the cap hit is yet.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Good to have Arturs Irbe back.

Nice cap hit!

 

[Flik]

Glad we got this wrapped up. I'm looking forward to seeing how he develops over the next couple of years. He came in clutch for us in the playoffs, but still has a ton of room to grow before he can be relied on for anything more than backing up Demko.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813281332060967256

 

[Deeds26]

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[StreetHawk]

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If that is correct, that is a very low aav. But, it looks like the tradeoff is that it's a 1 way contract, so in the event he cleared waivers he'd get the full $850K

 

[Vector]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813282400329175229

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Was texting the numbers to my friend first. I need to remember that my real friends are here!

 

[tradervik]

 

[Leif Rohlin]

Now we can trade Demko

Less than I expected though. I had him penciled in for 1M.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Came in a little under what I thought he would - very pleased with this deal. Nice work by Chef Allvin.

 

[TruGr1t]

Slightly below expectations on AAV (~$250k), but 2-years, so I assume the negotiation was on term. Organization probably preferred 1 year.

 

[Vector]

With the following roster, the Canucks are expected to have 0.16m in cap space to start the season and not utilize LTIR.

Danton Heinen	JT Miller	Brock Boeser
Nils Hoglander	Elias Pettersson	Jake DeBrusk
Dakota Joshua	Teddy Blueger	Conor Garland
Kiefer Sherwood	Pius Suter	Vasily Podkolzin
	Nils Aman
Quinn Hughes	Filip Hronek
Carson Soucy	Tyler Myers	Thatcher Demko
Derek Forbort	Vincent Desharnais	Arturs Silovs
Mark Friedman	Noah Juulsen

You can squeeze a little more out by having PDG instead of Aman. Finding a way to get rid of Poolman's contract would net them a pretty significant gain.

 

[Vector]

Other than an offer sheet, Silovs had no negotiating power. Most likely the Canucks offered this exact contract the entire time and the negotiation was around it being a one-way deal.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Very happy with this re-signing. Wishing both of our goalies a healthy and successful season.

 

[Nucker101]

With the following roster, the Canucks are expected to have 0.16m in cap space to start the season and not utilize LTIR.

Danton Heinen	JT Miller	Brock Boeser
Nils Hoglander	Elias Pettersson	Jake DeBrusk
Dakota Joshua	Teddy Blueger	Conor Garland
Kiefer Sherwood	Pius Suter	Vasily Podkolzin
	Nils Aman
Quinn Hughes	Filip Hronek
Carson Soucy	Tyler Myers	Thatcher Demko
Derek Forbort	Vincent Desharnais	Arturs Silovs
Mark Friedman	Noah Juulsen

You can squeeze a little more out by having PDG instead of Aman. Finding a way to get rid of Poolman's contract would net them a pretty significant gain.

With only 0.16M in space, are they better off just utilizing LTIR? Or is it better to accrue cap space and do the the daily send down/recall thing to maximize cap space by the TDL?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Peanuts.

Allvin has done an excellent job regarding contracts this summer.

Only one I could have slight grip with is Myers but understandable given some of the FA deals handed out.

 

[TruGr1t]

With only 0.16M in space, are they better off just utilizing LTIR? Or is it better to accrue cap space and do the the daily send down/recall thing to maximize cap space by the TDL?

That's with a 23-player roster. You can tinker around the edges with the 13F and back-up defense spots, and do some smaller things while staying out of LTIR. I doubt they do, but maybe now that's Silovs signed they look to find this year's Pius Suter etc.

 

[Vector]

With only 0.16M in space, are they better off just utilizing LTIR? Or is it better to accrue cap space and do the the daily send down/recall thing to maximize cap space by the TDL?

It's the question I've been pondering this entire time. They don't have enough capspace to accrue anything meaningful nor can they absorb any injuries that would require IR. They can get to about 1m in space by waiving Aman instead of PDG and waiving one of Friedman/Juulsen. They can't play the recall game because, as of right now, don't project to have anyone on the roster that isn't eligible for waivers. They could do it by sneaking people through waivers early on but that will run out pretty quickly given the games player and days on roster requirements before those players are eligible for waivers again. So to even do that you have to get through training camp completely healthy, which the Canucks haven't been able to do the last two seasons.

The easiest thing to do is bite the bullet and find a way to trade Poolman's contract.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Thought he'd get 1m per. Good deal.

 

[bossram]

A little bit less than I expected on a two-year term. Was thinking more ~$1M for two-years, so this helps them accumulate a sliver of cap space.

It's the question I've been pondering this entire time. They don't have enough capspace to accrue anything meaningful nor can they absorb any injuries that would require IR. They can get to about 1m in space by waiving Aman instead of PDG and waiving one of Friedman/Juulsen. They can't play the recall game because, as of right now, don't project to have anyone on the roster that isn't eligible for waivers. They could do it by sneaking people through waivers early on but that will run out pretty quickly given the games player and days on roster requirements before those players are eligible for waivers again. So to even do that you have to get through training camp completely healthy, which the Canucks haven't been able to do the last two seasons.

The easiest thing to do is bite the bullet and find a way to trade Poolman's contract.

I am curious why it seems (and I think Drance and Dhaliwal have reported this) Allvin is very uninterested in moving Poolman's contract. It's for only 1 year, you would think it would cost less than moving Mikheyev.

It would give them a ton more flexibility, especially at the deadline being able to accumulate a lot more cap space throughout the season.

 

[thecupismine]

It's the question I've been pondering this entire time. They don't have enough capspace to accrue anything meaningful nor can they absorb any injuries that would require IR. They can get to about 1m in space by waiving Aman instead of PDG and waiving one of Friedman/Juulsen. They can't play the recall game because, as of right now, don't project to have anyone on the roster that isn't eligible for waivers. They could do it by sneaking people through waivers early on but that will run out pretty quickly given the games player and days on roster requirements before those players are eligible for waivers again. So to even do that you have to get through training camp completely healthy, which the Canucks haven't been able to do the last two seasons.

The easiest thing to do is bite the bullet and find a way to trade Poolman's contract.

If they have any intentions on making a deadline move, they pretty much have to move Poolman's contract before the season starts.

Catch-22 in that if they decide to not make any upgrades, getting rid of assets for nothing in return doesn't feel great. I think having the option open to acquire up to a 6 million dollar player vs being limited to a 3 million dollar one (I don't know exact numbers but I'm guestimating here) makes it worth exploring.

 

[Zippgunn]

Other than an offer sheet, Silovs had no negotiating power. Most likely the Canucks offered this exact contract the entire time and the negotiation was around it being a one-way deal.

Yeah at first I sneered at this deal until I realized that it was one way and for two years. Just under 2 mil in guaranteed money is solid and if what I think is going to happen actually does happen (Demko continuing to decline and be injury prone and Silovs continues to improve) then his next contract will be a doozy...

 

[Wisp]

what I expected. When you're still waiver eligible, the big get is the one way contract.

 

[Vector]

A little bit less than I expected on a two-year term. Was thinking more ~$1M for two-years, so this helps them accumulate a sliver of cap space.


I am curious why it seems (and I think Drance and Dhaliwal have reported this) Allvin is very uninterested in moving Poolman's contract. It's for only 1 year, you would think it would cost less than moving Mikheyev.

It would give them a ton more flexibility, especially at the deadline being able to accumulate a lot more cap space throughout the season.

Apparently, and I can't remember which reporter was talking about it, the Canucks have consistently tried to move off of Poolman's contract but the price has been very high. Teams liked Mikheyev a lot more and feel they could recoup some of the cost by trading him for an asset later. Poolman is pure capspace and the few teams that can absorb 2.5m in capspace are putting a high price on that.

If they have any intentions on making a deadline move, they pretty much have to move Poolman's contract before the season starts.

Catch-22 in that if they decide to not make any upgrades, getting rid of assets for nothing in return doesn't feel great. I think having the option open to acquire up to a 6 million dollar player vs being limited to a 3 million dollar one (I don't know exact numbers but I'm guestimating here) makes it worth exploring.

Given their reluctance to part with what few assets that have, I wonder if they will try to package him with a Hoglander/Podkolzin for a useful but slightly burdensome player. Like Brock McGinn (1y/2.75m).