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So much wrong in this post. D-Petey would definitely go in the first round in a redraft. He is also a dman that teams would covet as he moves well and is kind of a throwback with his physicality. If you made D-Petey available in a trade I think you'd be surprised on his return (Canucks would not move him).
1. The claim was not "first round in a redraft". The claim by the other poster was top-10. Might want to learn to read first before claiming "so much wrong".

2. I personally think he has more value to the team than league-wide trade value. Some posters are talking like the Canucks can swap D-Petey 1-for-1 to get a legit top-six forward upgrade. No, that is not happening.
 
elias (nils) pettersson is a pretty good player and a nice surprise for the canucks but cmon. no one is trading a (good) top six winger for nic hague or wyatt kaiser and no one is trading a good top six winger for pettersson. he'll have to be a lot better to get that kind of return
 
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I mean he WAS a B-tier prospect when he was drafted but as a 20 year old he has already pushed out an established vet. If you look around, there aren't enough quality D, especially guys with DPetey's profile, legit big, actually mobile (not mobile for his size kinda bs mobile) and can move the puck.

Him right now at this moment won't be enough to get a top6 forward but let him stick for half a season more and if he is pacing for like 20+ points at that point, yeah he's going to be worth a top6 forward easy.
The bolded is the claim I'm making. Other posters seem to think that a D-Petey trade could single-handedly solve the top-six.

Again, like I've said in multiple posts, I personally rate him higher than I think his league-wide cache is. I classify him as a "B-tier prospect" in terms of asset trade value. He doesn't have blue chipper or "A prospect" value like a Sam Dickinson or Ivan Demidov.
 
With such a weak free agent group this year, are there any under the radar break out candidates that we can target either in FA, trade, or even NCAA? I'm thinking like Verhaeghe or someone else's Hodgson who you think would excel under Tocc.
 
Free agents are going to get a stupid amount this offseason. I really hope management reels in any temptation to participate in the frenzy.
 
But some people are talking like trading D-Petey is the answer to their top-six holes. I'm just trying to illustrate no, it's not. They're not getting a "legit" top-six forward in a 1-for-1 D-Petey trade. It would have to be a package. The top-10 comment in a re-draft today was also wildly off the mark.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that at all. It’s always, 1st+prospect(Willander, Lekk, DPetey, Mynio, Kudryatsev). I don’t think any of these prospects alone is going to fetch an established top 6 talent with term, unless there’s warts to that player.
 
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that at all. It’s always, 1st+prospect(Willander, Lekk, DPetey, Mynio, Kudryatsev). I don’t think any of these prospects alone is going to fetch an established top 6 talent with term, unless there’s warts to that player.
Not really. Some posters are literally saying, "just trade one of D-Petey or Willander to solve the top-six". No mention of other assets in a trade package. How should that be interpreted?

One poster literally said D-Petey would go top-10 in a 2023 re-draft right now. He obviously thinks D-Petey has elite prospect trade value.
 
I don't think there are enough of them for 32 teams, that's the issue right? There is a reason why we see teams pay multiple picks for a Luke Schenn.
I'm just saying I think that there's more out there than what we think and my personal opinion is I think there's a lot of shitty scouting that goes on with these types of players as well as small players and big forwards
 
It still irks me that an old man rental in Brock Nelson got Cal Ritchie caliber prospect but a younger Bo for 2 years @ 5.25M only got Raty. Same with JT when he was extremely good value with 2 years left just had no takers. Imagine if we had Cal Ritchie right now instead of Raty (no disrespect to him, just that they are not the same level of player).
 
The bolded is the claim I'm making. Other posters seem to think that a D-Petey trade could single-handedly solve the top-six.

Again, like I've said in multiple posts, I personally rate him higher than I think his league-wide cache is. I classify him as a "B-tier prospect" in terms of asset trade value. He doesn't have blue chipper or "A prospect" value like a Sam Dickinson or Ivan Demidov.
Yeah, I think a bunch of teams have tried to get Dpetey from us almost as a throw-in so they can get a steal and that tells me he is actually pretty coveted already. I think his value is going to rocket next year but right now he is still too much of an unknown to the rest of the league for us to get that value.
 
Yeah, I think a bunch of teams have tried to get Dpetey from us almost as a throw-in so they can get a steal and that tells me he is actually pretty coveted already. I think his value is going to rocket next year but right now he is still too much of an unknown to the rest of the league for us to get that value.
I don't know how you would know this.
 
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Okay a lot to dissect.

elias (nils) pettersson is a pretty good player and a nice surprise for the canucks but cmon. no one is trading a (good) top six winger for nic hague or wyatt kaiser and no one is trading a good top six winger for pettersson. he'll have to be a lot better to get that kind of return
I mean nobody has suggested those types garner any sort of good top 6 player alone lol. Like everybody knows this. Top 6 guys go for a 1st and an A prospect minimum and more if you’re acquiring someone from a playoff team. Kaiser is a small defenseman who happened to play 9 games coming off college on a bottom feeding team that had a defensive core of Tinordi and Caleb Jones and wouldn’t be in the NHL if it weren’t for those circumstances. In contrast, D-Petey literally pushed out Soucy with an NTC out of the line up and traded.

A better example would be Vlasic who is turning into one of the best shutdown defenseman in the league like his cousin before him.

Hague definitely would’ve fetched a good return if he were traded right after his D3 season. 20 year old defenseman with size and skating ability playing in the NHL is exactly what all 32 GM’s would highly covet in a trade. I’d also argue GM’s would value D-Petey and Willander more than they would with Lekkerimaki. Hague is Vegas’s top PK’er next to McNabb and is an adept shot blocker with an offensive touch and would be a top 4 defenseman on most other teams and would probably put up 30 or more points if given more of an offensive opportunity. Clearly Vegas already has Theodore, Hanifin, and Pietrangelo to fill that role.

The bolded is the claim I'm making. Other posters seem to think that a D-Petey trade could single-handedly solve the top-six.

Again, like I've said in multiple posts, I personally rate him higher than I think his league-wide cache is. I classify him as a "B-tier prospect" in terms of asset trade value. He doesn't have blue chipper or "A prospect" value like a Sam Dickinson or Ivan Demidov.
On the contrary, blue chippers are rarely traded for a top 6 player unless you’re talking about a franchise level/1st line star player/a young future one like a Carlsson or Fantilli. Nobody is trading Demidov for Tuch for instance as good of a player as Tuch is. At the same time, there are a lot of A prospects that don’t fit under blue chipper label but would certainly still be highly coveted in a trade.
 
Imagine having the nuts to turn down 40+ mil like Boeser has and then to go out and go goaless in 12 games while having 3 points.

What a passenger this dude has become. I dont care how likeable he is off-the ice.
Klingberg was offered an 8 year 56 million dollar contract he turned down in 2022. He's made 12.5 mil since but still....
 
I think the quick reaction is to take what he's saying as a negative but being a b tier is pretty solid

Who is in your a tier
A tier from the 2022 draft? TBH there are not many as it seems to be weak overall. I like Cooley, Mintyukuv and Slafkovsky as the top 3 and a whole bunch in a B tier. D-Petey would go in the first round but near the end of the B tier. I do not think he has the offensive talent of others but is definitely one of the better prospects from that draft.
 
A tier from the 2022 draft? TBH there are not many as it seems to be weak overall. I like Cooley, Mintyukuv and Slafkovsky as the top 3 and a whole bunch in a B tier. D-Petey would go in the first round but near the end of the B tier. I do not think he has the offensive talent of others but is definitely one of the better prospects from that draft.
So you agree he would not go top-10 despite you falsely claiming that I said he would?
 
Imagine having the nuts to turn down 40+ mil like Boeser has and then to go out and go goaless in 12 games while having 3 points.

What a passenger this dude has become. I dont care how likeable he is off-the ice.
He’s doing the team a favour, we should thank him.
 
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DPetey is not gonna have the value to return a good proven top6 player on a decent contract.

About the only chance you would have is getting a similar aged forward from a team in a situation where the development or relationship has gone south.

Would be pretty crazy to think that would be a good idea given what we've seen and how he fits the team going forward and the fact he's still hasn't produced much to get teams excited about his ultimate upside.

I still think he's a bit of a hidden gem league wide and given what we've learned and seen about his skating physicality and smarts trading him would be really dumb. He's got the ability to be an elite shut down guy and if he hits that target he will be worth infinitely more than you get in the market today. Not saying he gets there but what would a 21yr old Jaccob Slavin be worth to Carolina in hindsight.

DPetey is off the table for me
 
Yeah, I think a bunch of teams have tried to get Dpetey from us almost as a throw-in so they can get a steal and that tells me he is actually pretty coveted already. I think his value is going to rocket next year but right now he is still too much of an unknown to the rest of the league for us to get that value.

So a completely unknown belief of teams trying to get him as a throw in demonstrates he is pretty coveted? That doesn't really follow logically.

If the shoe was on the other foot and I was somewhat following Canucks hockey I would definitely be intrigued but in no way would I be paying a whole lot for him. He's a yet to be proven defensive dman with 15 NHL games total. It's not like he's a solution to fixing a team's defence ... yet.
 
The entire direction of the organization depends on Quinn's decision in two years. Hopefully they get clarity soon.

If it’s confirmed that he’s leaving, the team can initiate a rebuild as early as this summer, starting with trading Petey.

If Quinn chooses to stay, the focus remains on bolstering the roster to stay competitive.
 
Trading DP and our 1st (and maybe Chytil for cap purposes?) makes perfect sense to me IF it gets a top 6 C (or impact winger).

Hughes and MP aren’t going to be displaced and someone like Forbert or many other 3rd pairing guys are available in UFA every summer.

Maybe you don’t do it if you’re convinced Hughes is leaving in 2 years, but you’re boned no matter what if he leaves so may as well put your best foot forward for the next 2 seasons.
 

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